Guest guest Posted January 11, 2004 Report Share Posted January 11, 2004 Hi Daphne, About 12 yrs. ago I had my amalgam fillings removed. I did not notice any difference but that does not mean there wasn't any. This has been a big controversary for years. Mercury is surely very bad for us but is certainly not the only reason that we have ms symptoms. Eliminating mercury alone will not alleviate ms symptoms. It is expensive and if not done properly, can actually increase the mercury intake. Regards, Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2004 Report Share Posted January 12, 2004 Audrey is correct, do not do heavy metal chelation or other mercury detox program until after the amalgams are removed or you will draw mercury out of the fillings and into your bloodstream. There have been several good posts about mercury detox and chelation and amalgam removal protocal that can be found by searching our archives for this group at the website MESSAGES list. Duncan > Hi Daphne, > From what I learned from my wholistic dentist and my > chelation doctor, it is not advisable to undergo > chelation until all of the amalgams are removed. You > may be causing yourself harm by mobilising Mercury > that is currently in your teeth and setting it free in > your system, especially if you utilize chelators who > only bind loosely to Mercury. > > My understanding is that the safest protocol is to > have amalgams removed, then gradually begin chelation > as not to overburden your body. > > ~Audrey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2004 Report Share Posted January 14, 2004 Ian, I beg to differ with this entire post. No offense intended. I have spent years researching this subject and you have been misinformed. First, the ADA (American Dental Association) holds a patent on amalgam dental filling material and has maintained for many years that once the amalgam material gets solid, mercury CAN NOT escape from the fillings. Faced with an overwhelming amount of scientific proof that it does leak out, they have finally admitted that a miniscule amount may come out, but that you get more than that in fish in your daily diet. However, there are many forms of mercury, such as organic and inorganic, methylmercury, etc. The mercury from fish is easily eliminated from the body in stools, whereas the mercury from amalgam is converted inside the body into methymercury, which is 100 times more toxic and then gets stored inside cells in your body. Mercury is a neurotoxin that destroys nerve fibers. In my opinion, the article you read was very biased and inaccurate. No one says that mercury from dental fillings is the cause of MS. However, a cumulative toxic overload in the body, whether it be from mercury, lead, aluminum, benzene, toluene, arsenic, or whatever, can cause the autoimmune system to malfunction. The list of symptoms from mercury poisoning matches the list for MS almost exactly. And just because you have no fillings does not mean that you have no mercury, as you said. People have been getting mercury from many sourses over the years, such as thimerosal (the preservative in vaccinations), which is 50% mercury, mercurochrome (a wound disinfectant) merthiolate, Murine eye drops, disposable diapers, fungicides, paint, and food. Mercury fungicides have been used on grain, then made into bread, which we eat. Many of these uses for mercury have been recently banned, but for many adults today, the mercury is already in your body. Depending on the method for mixing the amalgam and the brand of product used, there is sometimes excess liquid mercury that is squeezed out of the filling material as it is packed into the tooth. And when a filling is removed, unless the proper protocal for safety is used, the exposure to the patient for mercury is huge. Holistic dentists use a dental dam, oxygen over the nose, high volume vacuum for the vapors, etc. that your friendly family dentist will not use. Also, they will chisel out the filling rather than drill it. Mercury vapor can only be seen with an ultraviolet light. If you turn one on when drilling a filling, it will look like smoke coming out of your mouth. Approximately 80% or more of all inhaled mercury vapor goes directly into the blood stream through your lungs and is deposited in the body tissues, mainly the kidneys, brain and fat cells. The mercury absorbed during placement or removal of a filling is many times worse than eating fish with mercury in it. And the damage to the body is no comparison. The article you read that was written by a dentist was information that the ADA would like for you to believe, but is false. Read the book, " Its All In Your Head " by Hal Huggins, then you will laugh when you re-read that brochure you mentioned. Or you can do a search for " Mercury Amalgam Toxicity " on the internet and you will find tons of scientific data that will back me up. If you have a problem finding it, I will post some links for you. Many dentists practicing now were taught in dental school that amalgam is safe and the mercury is sealed in and that composite material is inferior for fillings because it is too soft, etc. First, any toxicologist can tell you that the only things more toxic than mercury are radioactive. Mercury is more toxic than arsenic or cyanide. If someone told you that they could now make amalgam with arsenic in place of mercury, and that it would last a lifetime and only leak out a little bit, would you want that in your mouth? About composites. Many years ago, when they were first used, they were inferior. But advances have been made and the material they use now is very good. It must be placed by someone who knows what they are doing because it sticks to the tooth and shrinks when it dries. If a large composite is placed in one chunk, it will stick to the tooth, then shrink and place stress on the tooth and make it very sensitive to cold or heat. Later it can become loose and fall out. A well trained dentist will layer it in and cure each layer before placing the next layer. With composites you take out only the rotten part of the tooth and drill a very small crater and the composite material will stick. With amalgam, it does not stick. The only way to make it stay in the tooth is to drill past the rotten part and deep into the tooth and make a bell bottom shaped hole to pack with amalgam. The amalgam will not stick, so the largest part is inside the tooth with the tooth actually surrounding most of it and holding it in place. They have to take out an abundace of healthy tooth to make room for the amalgam and in so doing, make the tooth weaker. Composties are very good material and will last a long time if placed by a dentist who knows what he is doing. When you go to a dentist, ask him if he likes amalgam or composites better. If he gives the wrong answer, find another dentist. Do not let him put composites in or you may be sorry. If you let him use amalgam you will be even sorrier. When Janie went in to have her mercury fillings replaced, the Holistic dentist we went to had an industrial mercury vapor meter in his office. He held the probe in the air and zeroed the meter. Then he placed the probe in Janie mouth and told her to exhale. The meter needle jumped up to about 15 to 25% of full scale. Then he had her chew gum for 5 minutes and re-tested her. That time, when she exhaled, it pegged out the meter so hard it almost bent the needle and it stayed on the peg until he waved the probe around in fresh air. Yes, a mouth full of fillings is full of mercury vapor that a person inhales every time they breath, 24 hours a day, and it is much worse after eating. You say you would not have your amalgams replaced because the evidence is not strong enough. Wrong. The evidence is overwhelming, you just have not seen it. Almost every book and website on alternative healing has information about detoxing the body and how important dental cleanup is to your overall health. Any dentist who tells you that composite filling are a problem is a dentist who has not been properly trained in the correct installation technique. If he says they may fall out or cause other problems, then what he is telling you is that he doesn't know how to do it right. Find another dentist. If you read articles written by and ADA backer dentist, it will probably contain may inaccuracies and be slanted. For example, when a new amalgam is mixed, it contains approximately 50% mercury. But if you wait about 7 years and remove it and do a chemical analysis on it, it may only contain around 25% mercury, or half the original amount. Where do you think the rest of the mercury went? Did you know that amalgam material must be stored in an airtight container before it is placed in your mouth and the dentist is trained to use a " no touch " technique and to wear rubber gloves? Also, after a filling is removed, it must be stored in a jar of glycerine with a screw on top until it is moved to a toxic waste disposal site. The same is true of left over scrap amalgam if he mixes more than he needs. Yes, the left over scrap also goes to the toxic waste disposal site in a sealed container or he is violation of OSHA and the EPA laws and can be fined or go to jail. Legally, the only place you can store amalgam, other than in a sealed container, is in your mouth. Kinda makes you go, Hmmmmmmmm? One more thing. On a website dedicated to getting mercury removed from vaccines there is a video you can watch that shows a nerve fiber under a microscope. It looks like a tree root that brances out into smaller and smaller little fingers. Then a drop of 1 part per billion saline solution is dropped onto the slide and the little nerve fibers melt and shrivel up until on the large main trunk fiber is left. That video is creepy, knowing that it takes years of mercury detox to get it out of all your tissues. Duncan > Hi guys, > > Would just like to add my two cents here. Last month the local dental > journal published an excellent article on this matter. Recent tests show > that the amount of mercury that is given off from amalgam fillings is > less than the amount of mercury ingested naturally in ones daily diet. > When a filling is removed or placed when visiting a dentist, on that > given day 1/3 of the amount of natural daily dietry intake of mercury, > is given off. We get most of our mercury intake from fish and sea water > foods. > > So would I go and have my amalgam fillings taken out? Not yet, the > evidence still is not strong enough. Besides only certain white fillings > (ceramics) are superior in terms of strength than silver fillings. What > normally happends is that the white fillings placed are composite > (white) fillins and these are no where as strong as the silver ones on > the back teeth. They tend to leak and you land up having all sorts of > extensive dental treatment in the end. > > Rgds, > Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2004 Report Share Posted January 14, 2004 I just read my previous post and noticed an error. I said " a drop of 1 part per billion saline solution " . It should have read " a drop of saline solution containing 1 part per billion of mercury is dropped on the slide " Sorry, Duncan --- In mscured , " duncanmcdowell " <duncanmcdowell@y...> > One more thing. On a website dedicated to getting mercury removed > from vaccines there is a video you can watch that shows a nerve > fiber under a microscope. It looks like a tree root that brances > out into smaller and smaller little fingers. Then a drop of 1 part > per billion saline solution is dropped onto the slide and the little > nerve fibers melt and shrivel up until on the large main trunk fiber > is left. That video is creepy, knowing that it takes years of > mercury detox to get it out of all your tissues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2004 Report Share Posted January 14, 2004 Here are some links for more information about mercury and amalgam illness: http://www.amalgam.org/ http://www.testfoundation.org/amalgampage.htm http://emporium.turnpike.net/P/PDHA/mercury/asr.htm http://emporium.turnpike.net/P/PDHA/health.htm http://www.algonet.se/~leif/FUSCIFCT.html http://www.mercola.com/article/mercury/mercury_elimination.htm http://www.home.earthlink.net/~berniew1/indexa.html http://www.whale.to/d/biblio.html http://www.thorne.com/townsend/oct/mercury.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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