Re: Re: Limited permit answer

[Guest guest]

The information in the email below is only partially correct. In order to avoid any confusion, I would like to clarify a few points:

The following paragraph ONLY applies to applicants who are applying through a grandfathering pathway.

If you are applying through the grandfathering pathways — you have until December 31, 2007 to meet the standards outlined in the grandfathering pathway and obtain your license. If you have not received your license by December 31, 2007, your application will be re-evaluated and you will need to meet the standards of current (standard pathway) law [master’s or higher in creative arts, 1500 hours of supervised experience, and take an examination..etc]. After Dec. 31, 2006, if you had not received your license you will need to have a limited permit in order to continue to practice as your application is re-examined. Please note, a limited permit is granted only to those who have fulfilled the education requirement of the current law [CAT master’s degree].

The following paragraph applies to applicants who are applying through the current (standard pathway) law.

If you are applying though the current (standard pathway) law, you need to currently hold a limited permit in order to be practicing the profession in NYS (or be employed in an exempt setting) until your License is awarded. If you are having difficulty obtaining your limited permit, I recommend calling the Department to determine where in the process your application is being held up. As stated earlier, the limited permit is only granted to those (not in a grandfathering application pathway) who have completed their education (master’s degree in CAT). Also, the limited permit application must indicate who your supervisor will be and the setting of the employment. If the application is a condition of employment, please let the Department know.

To clarify the points in the email below:

The statement: “In 2007 you will need to have your ATR-BC before getting your LCAT” is incorrect. You do not need to have your ATR-BC in order to become licensed in New York State.

The statement: “This year, and only this year, you need to complete the 1500 clock hours to get your LCAT” is incorrect. The 1500 hours of supervised experience is a requirement for all applicants who are applying through the current (standard pathway) law this year and years to come. (NOTE: This does not apply to grandfathering applicants.)

The process of licensure is confusing, especially when the requirements around grandfathering pathways and standard pathways get mixed up. It is difficult to apply one’s experience with the process to the masses.

As of 2007, ALL grandfathering pathways are eliminated and ALL new applicants (and applicants not awarded a license by Dec 31, 2006) will need to meet the standard pathway.

Hope this helps.

--

G.

Senior Associate

Carr Public Affairs

388 Broadway

Albany, New York 12207

(ph)

(fx)

evans@...

I never received my limited permit which I applied for Oct 05, but I

did receive my LCAT. This year, and only this year, you need to

complete the 1500 clock hours to get your LCAT. You can also complete

your ATR and receive your BC (w/o exam) in this same time frame. Your

ATR hours/supervision are counted differently so they take a little

longer.

I was told that you need to have NYS complete you license application

by Dec 31, 2006 or else you would need to meet the new qualifications

for 2007.

In 2007 you will need to have your ATR-BC before getting your LCAT.

Hope this helps

>

> As a recent graduate I've applied for a limited permit. I've been

> waiting approximately three months, and was told it's in the

> educational review phase. I've been advised that the process is

long,

> but am curious if anyone had received it and the approximate waiting

> time...Any experiences/thoughts to share would be greatly

appreciated.

> Thanks,

[Guest guest]

I have spoken to a few people at the NY State Education Dept. in the last couple months and was told that the grandfathering pathway is no longer available - they told me the deadline for the grandfathering path was earlier this year in January of 2006 and that now everyone must apply through the standard pathway. This information is also listed on their application forms. Does anyone know of a study guide or study group available for preparing for the Art Therapy BC exam?

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[Guest guest]

This is accurate. The NYS Education Department is no longer accepting grandfathering applications towards licensure. However, if you had submitted your grandfathering application by December 31, 2005, but have not received your license — you have until December 31, 2006 to fulfill the requirements and obtain a license.

--

G.

Senior Associate

Carr Public Affairs

388 Broadway

Albany, New York 12207

(ph)

(fx)

evans@...

I have spoken to a few people at the NY State Education Dept. in the last couple months and was told that the grandfathering pathway is no longer available - they told me the deadline for the grandfathering path was earlier this year in January of 2006 and that now everyone must apply through the standard pathway. This information is also listed on their application forms.

Does anyone know of a study guide or study group available for preparing for the Art Therapy BC exam?

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Sylvia,

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Mia de Bethune

I have spoken to a few people at the NY State Education Dept. in the last couple months and was told that the grandfathering pathway is no longer available - they told me the deadline for the grandfathering path was earlier this year in January of 2006 and that now everyone must apply through the standard pathway. This information is also listed on their application forms.

Does anyone know of a study guide or study group available for preparing for the Art Therapy BC exam?

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-- Mia de Bethune

[Guest guest]

Hi again, I am so sorry to bother you...I am sure that you are being bombarded with many questions but I am confused about one more thing. As of this month, I have finished all of my hours for both the ATR and the LCAT. Does this mean that I can be grandfathered in to a license? I am going to send out my "completion of hours" forms and I was just wondering where I stand/?? Thanks again for your time! Janelle Mercadanteheather evans wrote: The information in the email below is only partially correct. In order to avoid any confusion, I would like to clarify a few points:The following paragraph ONLY applies to applicants who are applying through a grandfathering pathway.If you are applying through the grandfathering pathways — you have until December 31, 2007 to meet the standards outlined in the grandfathering pathway and obtain your license. If you have not received your license by December 31, 2007, your application will be re-evaluated and you will need to meet the standards of current (standard pathway) law [master’s or higher in creative arts, 1500 hours of supervised experience, and take an examination..etc]. After Dec. 31, 2006, if you had not received your license you will need to have a limited permit in order to

continue to practice as your application is re-examined. Please note, a limited permit is granted only to those who have fulfilled the education requirement of the current law [CAT master’s degree].The following paragraph applies to applicants who are applying through the current (standard pathway) law.If you are applying though the current (standard pathway) law, you need to currently hold a limited permit in order to be practicing the profession in NYS (or be employed in an exempt setting) until your License is awarded. If you are having difficulty obtaining your limited permit, I recommend calling the Department to determine where in the process your application is being held up. As stated earlier, the limited permit is only granted to those (not in a grandfathering application pathway) who have completed their education (master’s degree in CAT). Also, the limited

permit application must indicate who your supervisor will be and the setting of the employment. If the application is a condition of employment, please let the Department know. To clarify the points in the email below:The statement: “In 2007 you will need to have your ATR-BC before getting your LCAT” is incorrect. You do not need to have your ATR-BC in order to become licensed in New York State. The statement: “This year, and only this year, you need to complete the 1500 clock hours to get your LCAT” is incorrect. The 1500 hours of supervised experience is a requirement for all applicants who are applying through the current (standard pathway) law this year and years to come. (NOTE: This does not apply to grandfathering applicants.) The process of licensure is confusing, especially when the requirements around

grandfathering pathways and standard pathways get mixed up. It is difficult to apply one’s experience with the process to the masses. As of 2007, ALL grandfathering pathways are eliminated and ALL new applicants (and applicants not awarded a license by Dec 31, 2006) will need to meet the standard pathway. Hope this helps. -- G. Senior AssociateCarr Public Affairs388 BroadwayAlbany, New York 12207(ph) (fx) evanscarrpublicaffairsOn 9/28/06 5:51 PM, "Kegatheggy" <moonpieoptonline (DOT) net> wrote: I never received my limited permit which I applied for Oct 05, but I did receive my LCAT. This year, and only this year, you need to complete the 1500 clock hours to get your LCAT. You can also complete your ATR and receive

your BC (w/o exam) in this same time frame. Your ATR hours/supervision are counted differently so they take a little longer.I was told that you need to have NYS complete you license application by Dec 31, 2006 or else you would need to meet the new qualifications for 2007.In 2007 you will need to have your ATR-BC before getting your LCAT.Hope this helps >> As a recent graduate I've applied for a limited permit. I've been > waiting approximately three months, and was told it's in the > educational review phase. I've been advised that the process is long, > but am curious if anyone had received it and the approximate waiting > time...Any experiences/thoughts to share would be greatly appreciated. > Thanks,

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[Guest guest]

Janelle,

It depends. First, you needed to have applied under the grandfathering pathway and had your application into the Department by December 31, 2005. Second, you need to fulfill the requirements for one of the grandfathering pathways....matching education, experience, and possibly endorsements...before December 31, 2006 and have the Department review, approve and issue a license before that December date.

The best information regarding your individual application is going to come from the Department since I have no records of your application. I recommend contacting them.

Sorry I can’t be of more help.

Best,

--

G.

Senior Associate

Carr Public Affairs

388 Broadway

Albany, New York 12207

(ph)

(fx)

evans@...

Hi again,

I am so sorry to bother you...I am sure that you are being bombarded with many questions but I am confused about one more thing. As of this month, I have finished all of my hours for both the ATR and the LCAT. Does this mean that I can be grandfathered in to a license? I am going to send out my " completion of hours " forms and I was just wondering where I stand/??

Thanks again for your time!

Janelle Mercadante

heather evans wrote:

The information in the email below is only partially correct. In order to avoid any confusion, I would like to clarify a few points:

The following paragraph ONLY applies to applicants who are applying through a grandfathering pathway.

If you are applying through the grandfathering pathways — you have until December 31, 2007 to meet the standards outlined in the grandfathering pathway and obtain your license. If you have not received your license by December 31, 2007, your application will be re-evaluated and you will need to meet the standards of current (standard pathway) law [master’s or higher in creative arts, 1500 hours of supervised experience, and take an examination..etc]. After Dec. 31, 2006, if you had not received your license you will need to have a limited permit in order to continue to practice as your application is re-examined. Please note, a limited permit is granted only to those who have fulfilled the education requirement of the current law [CAT master’s degree].

The following paragraph applies to applicants who are applying through the current (standard pathway) law.

If you are applying though the current (standard pathway) law, you need to currently hold a limited permit in order to be practicing the profession in NYS (or be employed in an exempt setting) until your License is awarded. If you are having difficulty obtaining your limited permit, I recommend calling the Department to determine where in the process your application is being held up. As stated earlier, the limited permit is only granted to those (not in a grandfathering application pathway) who have completed their education (master’s degree in CAT). Also, the limited permit application must indicate who your supervisor will be and the setting of the employment. If the application is a condition of employment, please let the Department know.

To clarify the points in the email below:

The statement: “In 2007 you will need to have your ATR-BC before getting your LCAT” is incorrect. You do not need to have your ATR-BC in order to become licensed in New York State.

The statement: “This year, and only this year, you need to complete the 1500 clock hours to get your LCAT” is incorrect. The 1500 hours of supervised experience is a requirement for all applicants who are applying through the current (standard pathway) law this year and years to come. (NOTE: This does not apply to grandfathering applicants.)

The process of licensure is confusing, especially when the requirements around grandfathering pathways and standard pathways get mixed up. It is difficult to apply one’s experience with the process to the masses.

As of 2007, ALL grandfathering pathways are eliminated and ALL new applicants (and applicants not awarded a license by Dec 31, 2006) will need to meet the standard pathway.

Hope this helps.

[Guest guest]

Hi Ms. , I am still very confused about many things that are presently going on. From talking to others in the field, it seems as though many others are expressing concerns that are similar to mine. Concerns are as follows: You stated..."As of 2007, ALL grandfathering pathways are eliminated and all new applicants (and applicants not awarded a license by DEC 2006) will need to meet the standard pathway. As of September 2006, I have fulfilled all of the education, supervision, hours of client contact requirements. I have been told that people have received their licenses though they have worked on the remainder of their requirements in 2006 (via grandfathering pathway). Many people are actually thinking that there is a possibility that the grandfathering has been extended, etc... Essentially...due to the mass confusion and lack of exams being

given, it seems as though those who do fulfill these requirements by DEC 2006 should still be able to be grandfathered into an LCAT. Furthermore, if in fact I do still need to take the exam... Am I able to register to take the exam in NYS though the State has not sent me an eligibility letter? When I called them they told me that I am "eligible" and they are still trying to get the letters together to send out. This becomes problematic because I would need to register by the deadline (that the "ATCB has extended from Oct 6, 2006...but they are not sure till when??") and the next exam is not until April 2007. I am sorry to burden you with all of these concerns but these are all questions that have been floating around. I have spoken to a numerous amount of people at ATCB and the state. Unfortunately, I have received many different answers and am not sure

which one holds true. If you could resolve these concerns for me and the many others who are in the same situation, I would greatly appreciate it! Sincerely, Janelle Mercadante heather evans wrote: The

information in the email below is only partially correct. In order to avoid any confusion, I would like to clarify a few points:The following paragraph ONLY applies to applicants who are applying through a grandfathering pathway.If you are applying through the grandfathering pathways — you have until December 31, 2007 to meet the standards outlined in the grandfathering pathway and obtain your license. If you have not received your license by December 31, 2007, your application will be re-evaluated and you will need to meet the standards of current (standard pathway) law [master’s or higher in creative arts, 1500 hours of supervised experience, and take an examination..etc]. After Dec. 31, 2006, if you had not received your license you will need to have a limited permit in order to continue to practice as your application is re-examined. Please note, a limited

permit is granted only to those who have fulfilled the education requirement of the current law [CAT master’s degree].The following paragraph applies to applicants who are applying through the current (standard pathway) law.If you are applying though the current (standard pathway) law, you need to currently hold a limited permit in order to be practicing the profession in NYS (or be employed in an exempt setting) until your License is awarded. If you are having difficulty obtaining your limited permit, I recommend calling the Department to determine where in the process your application is being held up. As stated earlier, the limited permit is only granted to those (not in a grandfathering application pathway) who have completed their education (master’s degree in CAT). Also, the limited permit application must indicate who your supervisor will be and the setting of the

employment. If the application is a condition of employment, please let the Department know. To clarify the points in the email below:The statement: “In 2007 you will need to have your ATR-BC before getting your LCAT” is incorrect. You do not need to have your ATR-BC in order to become licensed in New York State. The statement: “This year, and only this year, you need to complete the 1500 clock hours to get your LCAT” is incorrect. The 1500 hours of supervised experience is a requirement for all applicants who are applying through the current (standard pathway) law this year and years to come. (NOTE: This does not apply to grandfathering applicants.) The process of licensure is confusing, especially when the requirements around grandfathering pathways and standard pathways get mixed up. It is difficult to apply one’s

experience with the process to the masses. As of 2007, ALL grandfathering pathways are eliminated and ALL new applicants (and applicants not awarded a license by Dec 31, 2006) will need to meet the standard pathway. Hope this helps. -- G. Senior AssociateCarr Public Affairs388 BroadwayAlbany, New York 12207(ph) (fx) evanscarrpublicaffairsOn 9/28/06 5:51 PM, "Kegatheggy" <moonpieoptonline (DOT) net> wrote: I never received my limited permit which I applied for Oct 05, but I did receive my LCAT. This year, and only this year, you need to complete the 1500 clock hours to get your LCAT. You can also complete your ATR and receive your BC (w/o exam) in this same time frame. Your ATR hours/supervision are counted differently

so they take a little longer.I was told that you need to have NYS complete you license application by Dec 31, 2006 or else you would need to meet the new qualifications for 2007.In 2007 you will need to have your ATR-BC before getting your LCAT.Hope this helps >> As a recent graduate I've applied for a limited permit. I've been > waiting approximately three months, and was told it's in the > educational review phase. I've been advised that the process is long, > but am curious if anyone had received it and the approximate waiting > time...Any experiences/thoughts to share would be greatly appreciated. > Thanks,

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