Re: (unknown)

[Guest guest]

>Hi. Jill likes stuff like Pappyland on TLC, Rory, mostly little kid

>shows...and she's 12! She does like Scooby-Doo, but, that's only

>because her sisters is watching it. Still- her favorite show is

>Millionaire and she likes Supermarket Sweep on Lifetime.

>

>HI, its ninnaterry again, I was thinking about how all the girls love

>music and Barney videos. I was wondering if the other girls were like

>Trista. She only likes videos with real kids in them. She doesn't

>relate to cartoons or even Disney movies.She likes animal programs on

>Tv.

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[Guest guest]

The answer could be different from state to state, so check out yours.

In my state, a child can be NCEC (non categorical) until age nine IF the

IEP team reaches consensus to do that. It can be used in lieu of

developmental delay or mental retardation or autism or whatever. It

gives a kid a chance to get to 2nd or 3rd grade and then unequivocally

the kid will demonstrate the " real " disability and then the label could

be more accurate. It's also good for parents in denial...

Some districts don't want to put NCEC as an eligibility label and prefer

to put the real deal down because it helps them track it for

accountability stuff. Some districts will write young kids with autism

down as " speech impaired " and parents have been successful at keeping

that until the 3 year re-evals at 6 or even 9!

THERE MAY BE ADVANTAGES TO HAVING " AUTISM " AS THE ELIGIBILITY LABEL.

Some states offer extra protections that an IEP team must discuss (and

likely offer) to a child who has " AU " label such as: extended year

services; in class support under the student-teacher ratio protection;

parent training; home training, etc. Of course, some schools could use

the label against a kid and might try segregating your kid... a good IEP

that is implemented properly can prevent that!

<<<I somewhere the other day that if you don't make a direct dx on the

IEP that by law they only have to offer services until the age of

9.Could someone help me find this again.It is needed for a friend

with a possible Rett Syn.>>>

[Guest guest]

I have had fibromyalgia for 7 and a 1/2 long years. I have a complex of many

many symptoms. I beleive that the HPA(Axis) is damaged and I believe also if

we do not eat better and take care our our bodies our mind and our gut is

going to GREATLY suffer. Some may believe in leaky gut and some may not but

through my studies I know it exist. I have plenty of food allergies and until

I make up in my mind that I better start getting the right products to heal

my body than I will never get better. We have to take responsibility.I need

to take responsibility and start to listen to what my body is telling me and

it is saying to stop abusing it with sugar,white flour,processed foods,

constant antibiotics, which I don't take a lot but thought I would mention.

We can get well, it just takes us to really want it........Tonya P.S. I

know it is not easy, it definitely has not been for me, but I am trying and I

know that with God I''ll get there.

[Guest guest]

thank you is. finally some straight talk.

robin

[Guest guest]

is,

Im not real sure who are directing your letter to but Im replying anyway.

I have never said that FMS is caused by a candida overgrowth but I do find it

kind of odd that you admit that they dont know what causes it but you some how

know what doesn't cause it. If a person were to sit down in a room with 5

different FMS specialists you would come up with 5 different opinions about the

causes and treatments of FMS.

Though I am not one to go to standard allopathic doctors I do go to them when I

have needed to, Both my general physician and a rhumatologist (said to be one

the the best FMS people in the seattle area) said that a lower (not none)

carbohydrate diet is one of the best treatments for people FMS. Eliminating

food and altering your diet is a very effective way to ease the symptoms of FMS.

Sure some people (in my opinion) take it a little too far when trying to get

rid of Candida but they are taking control of their own health and studies have

show that when people take control of their illness the emotional benefits alone

can help in recovery or at least in dealing with those symptoms.

There has been far more harm done to people from taking unnecessary

prescriptions and over the counter medications that could ever be done by taking

safe herbal supplements and you will never win an argument with somebody who has

gained relief from these after they have taken them and followed a diet that

worked for them.

No candida probably doesn't cause FMS but the confusion comes because like so

many other diseases and syndromes FMS shares in the symptoms and my get

misdiagnosed but when a treatment is harmless and gives benefit, why insult the

people that try it?

is Pennington wrote:

> FMS is not caused by an overgrowth of candida. No one knows for sure what

> causes FMS. The people who are advocating the elimination of wheat or whey

> haven't read the literature and clearly have no idea what true allergy to

> gluten is. True allergy to wheat is known as sprue and is only seen in

> 0.03% of the general population (i.e.1 in 300 ppl are effected.) Having

> studied bacteriology, virology, immunology etc, I know this to be accurate.

>

> This question was asked of Dr. Nye:

> >What is the general concensus on the idea that all afflicted with FMS have

> >candida overgrowth as well? (when no evidence of CFS exists otherwise)

>

> To which he replied:

> A Dr. Crook came up with this idea probably 20 years ago and wrote a book

> about it called The Yeast Connection, but there is no scientific support for

> it. Patients with FMS do seem to be more likely to get yeast infections,

> and he may be mistaking a symptom for the cause, but antifungals have not

> been effective treatment for other FMS or CFS symptoms.

>

> There are all sorts of things we can take to improve our immune systems, but

> eliminating foods (unless an allergy is present,) is not the way to go about

> buffing up immunity. Far more research must be done before such statements

> can be made with certainty.

>

> Be well,

> is

>

> _________________________________________________________________

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>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi is,

Im not a dietician. My understanding about the avoidance of wheat is not

that people are allergic to gluten, but that wheat has lectins that cause

an adverse reaction in the intestines of certain individuals.....info

stemming from the Blood Type diet info.

when I first encountered info on the O-type diet, I decided to try it for

two weeks to see....and the effect of not eating wheat for 1 week made a

difference on how much pain I was in.....if I eat it now (which is easy to

want to do because the whole world is wheat) , I can always notice that the

extreme pain is back w/in the next 2-3 days. I doubt that I would test as

allergic.

I have never tested positive for a candida overgrowth, but, like everthing

else, it is present.

I think that it is entirely possible for FMS to be a culmination of

symptoms that are similar from individual to individual w/o the causitive

factors in different people being identical.

In other words....both over watering and drying out a plant can turn its

leaf edges brown....

At 12:22 PM -0500 1/16/01, is Pennington wrote:

>FMS is not caused by an overgrowth of candida. No one knows for sure what

>causes FMS. The people who are advocating the elimination of wheat or whey

>haven't read the literature and clearly have no idea what true allergy to

>gluten is. True allergy to wheat is known as sprue and is only seen in

>0.03% of the general population (i.e.1 in 300 ppl are effected.) Having

>studied bacteriology, virology, immunology etc, I know this to be accurate.

>

>This question was asked of Dr. Nye:

>>What is the general concensus on the idea that all afflicted with FMS have

>>candida overgrowth as well? (when no evidence of CFS exists otherwise)

>

>To which he replied:

>A Dr. Crook came up with this idea probably 20 years ago and wrote a book

>about it called The Yeast Connection, but there is no scientific support for

>it. Patients with FMS do seem to be more likely to get yeast infections,

>and he may be mistaking a symptom for the cause, but antifungals have not

>been effective treatment for other FMS or CFS symptoms.

>

>There are all sorts of things we can take to improve our immune systems, but

>eliminating foods (unless an allergy is present,) is not the way to go about

>buffing up immunity. Far more research must be done before such statements

>can be made with certainty.

>

>Be well,

>is

>

>

>

>_________________________________________________________________

>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Robin

I don't understand either. The message on my machine only comes across as a

y with 2 dots over it and a combination b/p. Got me. . .

Kate

(unknown)

> you are sweet for writing back about this. i see no

> problem with learning the ways of the group. and it is

> difficult for even us who speak the language ...

> take care,

> robin

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

(unknown)

you are sweet for writing back about this. i see noproblem with learning the ways of the group. and it isdifficult for even us who speak the language ...take care,robin

) <deep breath> ok... )

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

hi robin!

yes, it's good to breathe. :0)nothing is worth fretting over here. we are allfriends...and we all goof. i am famous for it.

*ggg*ps...its nice to meet you...where are you from? i amin massachusetts.

i am in germany...

lol, if you could see me with my four dictionaries on my knees... *ggg*

p@n...

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

you can go to www.berlitz.comand download a great FREE translator.robin

ok, thank you, i'll check that! )

but i am afraid i am talking such a funny german (with "selfmade idioms" *g*), this poor tool will explode, lol...

but i'll give it a try, ok... )

p@n...

ps:

does it know all these weird medical expressions?

[Guest guest]

Pandora -

You are doing very, very well!

hey, Robin, I'm in Massachusetts, too.

Lyn

==============

>From: Pandora@...

>Reply-To: fibromyalgiacured

>To: <fibromyalgiacured >

>Subject: Re: (unknown)

>Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 00:09:15 +0100

>

> hi robin!

>

> yes, it's good to breathe. :0)

> nothing is worth fretting over here. we are all

> friends...and we all goof. i am famous for it.

>

> *ggg*

>

> ps...its nice to meet you...where are you from? i am

> in massachusetts.

>

> i am in germany...

> lol, if you could see me with my four dictionaries on my knees... *ggg*

>

> p@n...

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Re: (unknown)

Pandora -You are doing very, very well!hey, Robin, I'm in Massachusetts, too.Lyn

you are very friendly here in this list! )

thanks! )))

p@n...

[Guest guest]

ÿþ

[Guest guest]

Welcome to our group pat..........just ask any question you have and whine if you want to.........we are here to listen to your complaints or comments or whatever it is that you feel like doing at the moment........... sondra

[Guest guest]

Welcome Pat, I have only been a member a short time. But have found this to be a great bunch of people. I think the rule is to ask anything that concerns you. Ina

(unknown)

Would like some information on belonging to this group. I'm a new member and confused on what to do. Do I ask questions, etc. etc. Please let me know. Thanks

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[Guest guest]

Hi Pat, welcome to this wonderful bunch of people...just ask anything you are concerned with and even have a whinge if it helps...no one judges you here and all are such angels, who are more knowledgeable than the doctors...I have learned so much from them and have never met them yet feel as though they are a family......Lee

Bigler wrote:

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[Guest guest]

Hello Pat, welcome to the bronchi group ! Support and smiles to be had :-)

Tina - hope you & your family are getting thru the days o.k.

God bless

Craig

[Guest guest]

I agree with everything Lee has said. Pat we're all here for each other - just a comment, a question, a moan, whatever. And as Lee said we all know so much more than the doctors - and I'm not kidding - between us all I reckon we could make up a couple of specialist doctors.

Madeleine

Re: (unknown)

Hi Pat, welcome to this wonderful bunch of people...just ask anything you are concerned with and even have a whinge if it helps...no one judges you here and all are such angels, who are more knowledgeable than the doctors...I have learned so much from them and have never met them yet feel as though they are a family......Lee Bigler wrote:

Would like some information on belonging to this group. I'm a new member and confused on what to do. Do I ask questions, etc. etc. Please let me know. Thanks

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[Guest guest]

Hi nn,

Good to hear from you. I was wondering what you were up to :-)) I'm so happy to hear that you

are keeping well and considering going back to teaching, that's wonderful news!! I agree that

if you don't give it another go, you will always wonder. If further down the track you find it is

too much, you can alway scale back again.

I'm doing much the same, winter is fast approaching here in Aussie and we're already getting

loads of rain. My chest doesn't like the damp, wet weather one bit!

Take care, and please keep in touch, okay!

Love Bunny

-----Original Message-----From: nn Sent: Thursday, 1 May 2003 11:25 AMTo: bronchiectasis Subject: (unknown)Hi everyone! I've kinda' dropped off the face of the computer world for a while but just wanted to let all of you know that you have all been in my thoughts and prayers. I must admit that I have not been keeping up with all the posts. Sitting down to 200-300+ messages has been a little too overwhelming so I just had hubby clear it all and start fresh :-/So I hope that you all are feeling well and those of you that are not feeling "tip-top", I pray that you will very soon and I will continue to keep you in my prayers. I have been fairly healthy the past couple months (knocking on wood)and hope my good health continues throughout the summer. I'm strongly considering getting back into teaching. This makes my family (especially my mother) very nervous as that is what I was doing 1 1/2 years ago when I got sooo sick and was first diagnosed. My little kiddos (in the classroom) were quite germy critters. :-)But management and administration is just not for me. I'm tired of sitting at a computer most of the day and getting irritated with people for making rather silly and inexcusable mistakes. :-(I figure I can't let fear run my life and unless I go back to teaching and do all I can to stay healthy I'll always wonder if I should have gone back. It's the only thing I've ever done that made me feel trully fullfilled. Take care all!nn...28 w/ Bronchiectasis...With a very supportive family...and living life to its fullest!

[Guest guest]

I had the lower left lobe and partial upper lobe removed over thirty years ago for saccular bronchiectasis . It was a four and half hour surgery. I had a baby and small child at the time. The recovery was quite painful because it involved a lot of disecting of the upper lobe because the saccular areas were extensive. I am glad that I had it done and enjoyed good health for many years. Only recently, on having a ct. scan done, were some dilated bronchials found in the right lung. Also an area of more bronchiectasis in the scar tissue of the left lung. I recently started using the Vest. If you are interested, go to the website, "The vest . com" and you will see pictures of it. The recovery from the surgery involved five days in extensive care and three weeks following that in hospital. I expect that everything is much faster today with all the new anaesthetics and medications.

[Guest guest]

Hello

Thanks for the new website (to me anyway). I found it most interesting and informative.

Madeleine

Re: (unknown)

I had the lower left lobe and partial upper lobe removed over thirty years ago for saccular bronchiectasis . It was a four and half hour surgery. I had a baby and small child at the time. The recovery was quite painful because it involved a lot of disecting of the upper lobe because the saccular areas were extensive. I am glad that I had it done and enjoyed good health for many years. Only recently, on having a ct. scan done, were some dilated bronchials found in the right lung. Also an area of more bronchiectasis in the scar tissue of the left lung. I recently started using the Vest. If you are interested, go to the website, "The vest . com" and you will see pictures of it. The recovery from the surgery involved five days in extensive care and three weeks following that in hospital. I expect that everything is much faster today with all the new anaesthetics and medications.

[Guest guest]

Mine was a right middle lobectomy and I was put under a general. It took about

2 hours. Afterwards, I was given morphine for awhile and then was switched to a

codeine/aspirin combination. My hospital stay was 4 days and spent 6 weeks off

of work. I'd have liked 1 more day in the hospital and two more weeks at home

because it was kind of uncomfortable. I started driving again when I returned

to work which was not easy. I was just told by my internist that the surgeon I

had was excellent and that my scar has healed better than any he's seen (not

that anyone else will ever see it). So, all in all, the pain was not

intolerable and I would do it again if I had to.

Barb

Re: (unknown)

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[Guest guest]

I had a lingectomy/lobectomy of left lung (mid and lower lobes) in 1994, as the ct scans showed that bronchiectasis was localised to these areas so the specialist recommended to remove the affected lobes.

For that operation, was in hospital for 6 weeks - due to complications from left lung collapsing and air leaks.Pain relief was an epidural to deaden the rib (intercostal)nerves,muscle etc,during the recovery period.

However I have had further complications since - collapsed lung, air leaks, fungal infection (aspergillosis - steroid treatment with side effects - prednisone ) recurrent lung infections.(some of these will be part and parcel of having bronchi anyway)

At the time I took the specialist's view as being the fix it, but hindsight (wonderful thing) probably would have me say: if time is on your side with severity of bronchi, - look to alternative treatments ie ; intensive postural drainage/physiotherapy - and/or look at herbal or other forms of healing.

Lung surgery is invasive, no doubt about it, and has the potential to cause further problems - but may be the best way to go, depending on circumstances.

Hope this doesn't scare you too much - you must base your need for surgery or other forms of treatment, by the effects of bronchi on your daily life.(and perhaps second medical opinion ?)

cheers Craig

(unknown)

has anybody else had lung surgery for bronchiectasis? If so how have you fared?

[Guest guest]

Hi Craig! I think it would be helpful if more people on this site would share their experiences . Those who opted for surgery and those who decided to be treated conservatively. I was offered a choice and think that I made the right decision. You have had a difficult time post op. In my case after having 2/3rds.of left lung removed plus the rib. I experienced good health for the next twenty years.. After which I started coughing up purulent mucus - but not a lot - each day. The doctors treated me for allergies , and my health was fairly good for the next ten years. I now have the bronchiectasis in the right lung. But the big problem I am dealing with is a pseudomonas infection in the lungs.

[Guest guest]

>If a cream is 8% AHA, does that actually mean 8% by weight of the

>batch? She was putting 40 grams of 70% Glycolic acid into her 500

>gram batch of cream.

8% should be based on the total weight of the batch.

>I would be

>grateful to or Maurice if you could give me information or

>send me in the right direction to find it so I can pass it onto her.

The safety of AHAs was reviewed by the Cosmetic Ingredient Review

Expert Panel. Below, you will find the " discussion " and conclusions "

of the CIR review.

" Discussion and Conclusion Sections of the CIR Expert Panel Tentative

Report on AHAs

Excerpts from the Cosmetic Ingredient Review Tentative Report on

Glycolic Acid; Ammonium, Calcium, Potassium, and Sodium Glycolate;

Methyl, Ethyl, Propyl, and Butyl Glycolate; Lactic Acid; Ammonium,

Calcium, Potassium, Sodium and TEA-Lactate; and Methyl, Ethyl,

Isopropyl, Butyl Lauryl, Myristyl, and Cetyl Lactate.

DISCUSSION

For ease of discussion, Glycolic and Lactic Acid, their common salts,

and their simple esters will be referred to as AHA ingredients. The

Expert Panel considered that there are three categories of use of AHA

ingredients: consumer use, salon use, and medical use. The Expert Panel

stressed that this review does not address the medical use of AHA

ingredients. This review addresses only the consumer and salon use;

i.e., those products available to the general public and those applied

by trained estheticians, respectively. While the Expert Panel focused

on several areas of concern in its consideration of these ingredients,

it should be noted that there is a great deal of data in the report

from which it can be concluded that AHA ingredients can be used safely

at certain concentrations and pH levels. For example, the Expert Panel

interpreted the available data to mean that AHA ingredients are not

mutagenic or carcinogenic. Likewise, data suggest that they are not

reproductive or developmental toxins. The Expert Panel also agreed that

clinical testing supports the view that AHAs are not sensitizers.

The areas that are of concern to the Expert Panel are the known

irritation potential, the potential enhancement of penetration of other

ingredients, and the potential increase in sensitivity to sunlight.

These latter two concerns arose from the ability of AHA ingredients to

remove a portion of the stratum corneum. Since the stratum corneum is a

barrier to many chemicals, its removal may increase penetration.

Likewise, the stratum corneum both reflects and absorbs ultraviolet

radiation (UVR) and it was suspected that alterations might result in

an increase in the amount of UVR reaching sensitive skin cells. Each of

these issues is considered below. Irritation

The available data demonstrate that AHA ingredients can be dermal

irritants. These data show an interdependence of concentration and pH.

At a given pH, increasing the concentration increases irritation. At a

given concentration, reducing the pH increases the irritation.

The extensive data on irritation produced by AHA ingredients suggest

that concentrations of Glycolic Acid used in leave-on products no

greater than 20% and Lactic Acid no greater than 10 %, with a pH no

less than 3.5 would not produce irritation to an unacceptable degree.

Likewise, rinse-off uses with concentrations no greater than 30% and a

pH no less than 3.0 are considered to present an acceptable irritation

risk if applied in a brief, discontinuous fashion followed by thorough

rinsing by trained individuals. The Expert Panel expressed concern that

salon customers not be treated frequently.

Even within those concentration, pH, and training constraints, the

Expert Panel stressed that it is possible to formulate in ways that

would be inappropriate and, therefore, urged that products be

formulated to limit irritation. For example, increased irritation

sensitivity of tissue around the area of the eye led to a specific

recommendation that AHA-containing products intended for use near the

eye be formulated in such a way as to reduce stinging and burning

reactions. Penetration Enhancement The Expert Panel agreed that animal

test data indicated that pretreatment with AHA ingredients did not

result in enhanced penetration of hydroquinone or musk xylol. The

Expert Panel also agreed that additional human test data confirmed an

absence of penetration enhancement for hydrocortisone and glycerin.

Based on these data, the Expert Panel concluded that there is no need

to be concerned about AHA ingredient use enhancing the penetration of

other chemicals.

The Expert Panel considered data included in the report which clearly

indicated that AHA ingredients themselves were absorbed across the

skin, especially at lower pHs. However, as noted above, AHA ingredients

have a notable lack of systemic toxicity; therefore, concern regarding

the amount of absorption was not warranted.

Although animal tests did not show any enhancement in penetration,

there was an increase in cell proliferation. This effect was evaluated

together with data on changes in the sensitivity of human skin to

sunlight. Sun Sensitivity Limited data assessing affects on MED show

that the MED was increased in one study and reduced in another by AHA

application. In the study showing a reduction of the amount of UVR

needed to produce reddening (potentiation of radiation damage), the

Expert Panel noted there was a wide variation in the effect. While an

overall 13% reduction was seen, some individuals experienced a 50%

reduction.

In a more comprehensive study that used SBC production as a measure of

UVR damage in volunteers pretreated with AHA ingredients at

concentrations as high as 10%, the Expert Panel noted a similar wide

variation in individual response. These studies were done using

volunteers preselected because their skin type makes them very

sensitive to the sun. In spite of the scatter in the data, the Expert

Panel concluded that it was possible to perform a statistical analysis.

That analysis showed a small, but statistically significant, increase

in the number of SBCs produced by one MED of UVR in these sun sensitive

individuals pretreated with AHA ingredients.

The Expert Panel also considered data showing that other treatments,

including mild soap and light abrasion, could produce a similar effect.

The increase in UVR damage associated with AHA pretreatment was of such

a magnitude that it is easily conceivable that aspects of cosmetic

product formulation could eliminate the effect. For example, inclusion

of a sunscreen with an SPF of 2 would eliminate the effect. Likewise,

addition of color additives or vehicles that produce even a small

increase UVR reflectance would eliminate the effect. Based on the data,

however, the Expert Panel concluded that some steps should be taken to

minimize the potential that use of AHA ingredients would result in

increased sun sensitivity.

Accordingly, the Expert Panel admonished producers of leave-on

cosmetics containing AHA ingredients to either formulate to avoid

increasing sun sensitivity (as discussed above) or to provide

directions for use that include the daily use of sun protection.

Because of the higher concentrations and lower pHs allowed for

rinse-off products, and in consideration that application is by a

trained professional, the Expert Panel was of the opinion that

mandating directions for the daily use of sun protection was both

necessary and sufficient for these products.

The Expert Panel expanded on the meaning of daily use of sun protection

to include the American Academy of Dermatology's (AAD's)

recommendations. The AAD recommends avoiding the sun between the peak

hours of 10:00 am and 4:00 pm, using a sunscreen with an SPF of 15 or

greater, and wearing protective clothing and hats.

The Expert Panel recalled that there were insufficient data to conclude

that urocanic acid is safe for use in cosmetics (Andersen, 1995).

Because of this, sunscreens containing urocanic acid should not be used

by consumers when trying to minimize the potential of increased sun

sensitivity due to AHA use.

Additionally, the Expert Panel discussed the need to alert users of

products containing AHA ingredients about the need to avoid exposure to

the sun when using medications that are photosensitizers. While

agreeing with the basic need to alert individuals using such

medications of the need to avoid sun exposure, the Expert Panel

concluded that this concern was best left to the interaction between

the prescribing physician, dispensing pharmacist, and the individual.

Taking each of these areas of concern into consideration (irritation,

penetration enhancement, and sun sensitivity), the Expert Panel is of

the opinion that a limitation on both concentration and pH is

appropriate for AHA ingredients. The data support that concentrations

no greater than 10% at pHs no less than 3.5 can be used safely in

products intended for the retail market; i.e., products where the

likely use is leave-on. Even with these limitations on concentration,

however, such products should either be formulated to avoid increasing

any user's sun sensitivity or be accompanied by directions for the

daily use of sun protection. The data support that for products

designed for brief, discontinuous use followed by thorough rinsing, as

applied by trained professional, higher concentrations and lower pHs

may be used safely, providing the customer is instructed to use daily

sun protection.

CONCLUSION

Based on the available information included in this report, the CIR

Expert Panel concludes that Glycolic and Lactic Acid, their common

salts and their simple esters, are safe for use in cosmetic products at

concentrations 10%, at final formulation pH 3.5, when formulated to

avoid increasing sun sensitivity or when directions for use include the

daily use of sun protection. These ingredients are safe for use in

salon products at concentrations 30%, at final formulation pH 3.0, in

products designed for brief, discontinuous use followed by thorough

rinsing from the skin, when applied by trained professionals, and when

application is accompanied by directions for the daily use of sun

protection. "

Also from the FDA, we have

FDA Proposes Advisory Label on Products Containing AHAs

http://www.fda.gov/bbs/topics/ANSWERS/2002/ANS01180.html

FDA Completes Two Clinical Studies on the Safety of Alpha Hydroxy Acid

http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~dms/cos-aha2.html

AHAs and UV Sensitivity: Results of New FDA-Sponsored Studies

http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~dms/cosahauv.html

Alpha Hydroxy Acids in Cosmetics

http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~dms/cos-aha.html

Maurice

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Maurice O. Hevey

Convergent Cosmetics, Inc.

http://www.ConvergentCosmetics.com

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