Guest guest Posted January 16, 2006 Report Share Posted January 16, 2006 This was about 2 years ago: I was on IL-2 therapy for about 1.5 years. The injections were 2x per day for 5 days. This was done one week out of every 2 months. The treatment was awful and although I received an increase in my t-cells, I wouldn't describe it as sustained. After the 1.5 years on the therapy I went off and my t- cells dropped precipitiously. It didn't take long before I was back where I had originally started. If I had been able to sustain #'s in the 300's I would have been willing to do the therapy for 2 weeks per year but at the rate my t-cells dropped that was not going to be possible. Tripp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2006 Report Share Posted January 18, 2006 This is what I want to know: - How to get IL-2 paid for (HIV use is off label) - How much is it if I have to pay for it out of pocket? - How does a doctor write a presciption? As directed? - What brand? I am planning to do some low dose IL-2 after I convince Tibotec to let those of us whith no active agent in our genotype access their two drugs at the same time prior to approval. I think the effect of their TMC 114 protease plus their TMC 125 non nuke plus IL-2 will give me the T cell response I need. Has anyone tried low dose IL-2 for long periods of time? --- nwstuart wrote: > > I have used IL-2 since 1993, > I have used anabolic steroids periodically since > 1991, > I have used a protease inhibitor (Crixivan) since > 1996, although I switched to Reyataz in 2003 to > correct an increasing cholesterol level. > > I have never experienced lipoatrophy etc. While it > took a number of years to increase my T4 count from > a low of 260 and 16% to above 30%, once I did, my T4 > count has remained above 1,000 and 30%. > > I use one bottle of IL-2 (22 mu) no more often than > every other month. One injection of 7 mu per day for > three days -- although I often skip the third dose > if the reaction is too noticeable. Indocin quickly > eliminates any fever, when that occurs during the > days of IL-2 usage. > > I see IL-2 like a diabetic using insulin. It > replaces something my body no longer produces in > sufficient quntitity. > > Like protease inhibitors or Oxandrin, Interleukin-2 > does not cure HIV, but keeps me healthy so long as I > use them -- which is not bad after 17 years of HIV. > > > ****************************************** > > This was about 2 years ago: I was on IL-2 therapy > for about 1.5 > years. The injections were 2x per day for 5 days. > This was done one > week out of every 2 months. The treatment was awful > and although I > received an increase in my t-cells, I wouldn't > describe it as > sustained. After the 1.5 years on the therapy I went > off and my t- > cells dropped precipitiously. It didn't take long > before I was back > where I had originally started. If I had been able > to sustain #'s in > the 300's I would have been willing to do the > therapy for 2 weeks per > year but at the rate my t-cells dropped that was not > going to be > possible. > > Tripp > > > > Regards, Vergel Lecture Dates: Long Beach Aug 31, Philadelphia Sept 15, NY Oct 13, LA Sept 21 & 22, Salt Lake- Nov 5, AIDS Nutritionist Conf- DC Sept 15-17, El Paso Oct 10, San Francisco Oct 26, POZ Cruise- Miami- Oct 15-21, Houston Sept 29, Austin Nov 1, Baton Rouge Nov 9, New Orleans Nov 10, Mexico NATAF conf Nov 28-29 Disclaimer This information (and any accompanying printed material) is not intended to replace the attention or advice of a physician or other health care professional. Anyone who wishes to embark on any dietary, drug, exercise, or other lifestyle change intended to prevent or treat a specific disease or condition should first consult with and seek clearance from a qualified health care professional Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2006 Report Share Posted January 18, 2006 This is what I want to know: - How to get IL-2 paid for (HIV use is off label) - How much is it if I have to pay for it out of pocket? - How does a doctor write a presciption? As directed? - What brand? I am planning to do some low dose IL-2 after I convince Tibotec to let those of us whith no active agent in our genotype access their two drugs at the same time prior to approval. I think the effect of their TMC 114 protease plus their TMC 125 non nuke plus IL-2 will give me the T cell response I need. Has anyone tried low dose IL-2 for long periods of time? --- nwstuart wrote: > > I have used IL-2 since 1993, > I have used anabolic steroids periodically since > 1991, > I have used a protease inhibitor (Crixivan) since > 1996, although I switched to Reyataz in 2003 to > correct an increasing cholesterol level. > > I have never experienced lipoatrophy etc. While it > took a number of years to increase my T4 count from > a low of 260 and 16% to above 30%, once I did, my T4 > count has remained above 1,000 and 30%. > > I use one bottle of IL-2 (22 mu) no more often than > every other month. One injection of 7 mu per day for > three days -- although I often skip the third dose > if the reaction is too noticeable. Indocin quickly > eliminates any fever, when that occurs during the > days of IL-2 usage. > > I see IL-2 like a diabetic using insulin. It > replaces something my body no longer produces in > sufficient quntitity. > > Like protease inhibitors or Oxandrin, Interleukin-2 > does not cure HIV, but keeps me healthy so long as I > use them -- which is not bad after 17 years of HIV. > > > ****************************************** > > This was about 2 years ago: I was on IL-2 therapy > for about 1.5 > years. The injections were 2x per day for 5 days. > This was done one > week out of every 2 months. The treatment was awful > and although I > received an increase in my t-cells, I wouldn't > describe it as > sustained. After the 1.5 years on the therapy I went > off and my t- > cells dropped precipitiously. It didn't take long > before I was back > where I had originally started. If I had been able > to sustain #'s in > the 300's I would have been willing to do the > therapy for 2 weeks per > year but at the rate my t-cells dropped that was not > going to be > possible. > > Tripp > > > > Regards, Vergel Lecture Dates: Long Beach Aug 31, Philadelphia Sept 15, NY Oct 13, LA Sept 21 & 22, Salt Lake- Nov 5, AIDS Nutritionist Conf- DC Sept 15-17, El Paso Oct 10, San Francisco Oct 26, POZ Cruise- Miami- Oct 15-21, Houston Sept 29, Austin Nov 1, Baton Rouge Nov 9, New Orleans Nov 10, Mexico NATAF conf Nov 28-29 Disclaimer This information (and any accompanying printed material) is not intended to replace the attention or advice of a physician or other health care professional. Anyone who wishes to embark on any dietary, drug, exercise, or other lifestyle change intended to prevent or treat a specific disease or condition should first consult with and seek clearance from a qualified health care professional Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2006 Report Share Posted January 18, 2006 This is what I want to know: - How to get IL-2 paid for (HIV use is off label) - How much is it if I have to pay for it out of pocket? - How does a doctor write a presciption? As directed? - What brand? I am planning to do some low dose IL-2 after I convince Tibotec to let those of us whith no active agent in our genotype access their two drugs at the same time prior to approval. I think the effect of their TMC 114 protease plus their TMC 125 non nuke plus IL-2 will give me the T cell response I need. Has anyone tried low dose IL-2 for long periods of time? --- nwstuart wrote: > > I have used IL-2 since 1993, > I have used anabolic steroids periodically since > 1991, > I have used a protease inhibitor (Crixivan) since > 1996, although I switched to Reyataz in 2003 to > correct an increasing cholesterol level. > > I have never experienced lipoatrophy etc. While it > took a number of years to increase my T4 count from > a low of 260 and 16% to above 30%, once I did, my T4 > count has remained above 1,000 and 30%. > > I use one bottle of IL-2 (22 mu) no more often than > every other month. One injection of 7 mu per day for > three days -- although I often skip the third dose > if the reaction is too noticeable. Indocin quickly > eliminates any fever, when that occurs during the > days of IL-2 usage. > > I see IL-2 like a diabetic using insulin. It > replaces something my body no longer produces in > sufficient quntitity. > > Like protease inhibitors or Oxandrin, Interleukin-2 > does not cure HIV, but keeps me healthy so long as I > use them -- which is not bad after 17 years of HIV. > > > ****************************************** > > This was about 2 years ago: I was on IL-2 therapy > for about 1.5 > years. The injections were 2x per day for 5 days. > This was done one > week out of every 2 months. The treatment was awful > and although I > received an increase in my t-cells, I wouldn't > describe it as > sustained. After the 1.5 years on the therapy I went > off and my t- > cells dropped precipitiously. It didn't take long > before I was back > where I had originally started. If I had been able > to sustain #'s in > the 300's I would have been willing to do the > therapy for 2 weeks per > year but at the rate my t-cells dropped that was not > going to be > possible. > > Tripp > > > > Regards, Vergel Lecture Dates: Long Beach Aug 31, Philadelphia Sept 15, NY Oct 13, LA Sept 21 & 22, Salt Lake- Nov 5, AIDS Nutritionist Conf- DC Sept 15-17, El Paso Oct 10, San Francisco Oct 26, POZ Cruise- Miami- Oct 15-21, Houston Sept 29, Austin Nov 1, Baton Rouge Nov 9, New Orleans Nov 10, Mexico NATAF conf Nov 28-29 Disclaimer This information (and any accompanying printed material) is not intended to replace the attention or advice of a physician or other health care professional. Anyone who wishes to embark on any dietary, drug, exercise, or other lifestyle change intended to prevent or treat a specific disease or condition should first consult with and seek clearance from a qualified health care professional Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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