Guest guest Posted May 21, 2006 Report Posted May 21, 2006 What experience?On May 21, 2006, at 8:49 AM, PozHealth wrote:Although these all work wonderfully in HIV negative people, it is my experience that they do not work in HIV+ people - proving the Pituitary signaling system does not function well in the presence of HIV infection. Barrowpozbod@... Quote
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2006 Report Posted May 21, 2006 Like most HIV+ people who have tried drugs which should increase testosterone production, Lupron, HCG and Clomid do not substantially increase my testosterone level. Some HIV+ people have found Clomid normalizes their testosterone level, and many have found a modest increase with HCG, but my sense is that this is a small minority - and generally seems to be people who have been infected for a relatively short period of time. I don't know of anyone who has seen success with Lupron. Activation with Lupron depends upon the rate of pulsation, rather than the dose. Very little is actually known about how Lupron (LH-RH) is used normally in the body. Using it wrong is known to cause osteoporosis. Which leads to . . . An alternate theory suggests the problem with low testosterone in people with HIV lies in an over-activation of the VDR receptor, which in turn is a possible cause of the low Interleukin-2 level and linked to unbalanced lipid metabolism. The most prominant researcher suggesting the involvement of VDR has created a great deal of animosity among other researchers whose work this upsets, in particular this upsets those researchers who have been advocating increased supplemenation with Vitamin D3. There's seemingly a lot of money and reputations being made on this vitamin. > > > Although these all work wonderfully in> > HIV negative people, it is my experience that they do not work in> > HIV+ people - proving the Pituitary signaling system does not> > function well in the presence of HIV infection.> > Barrow> pozbod@...> Quote
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2006 Report Posted May 21, 2006 Like most HIV+ people who have tried drugs which should increase testosterone production, Lupron, HCG and Clomid do not substantially increase my testosterone level. Some HIV+ people have found Clomid normalizes their testosterone level, and many have found a modest increase with HCG, but my sense is that this is a small minority - and generally seems to be people who have been infected for a relatively short period of time. I don't know of anyone who has seen success with Lupron. Activation with Lupron depends upon the rate of pulsation, rather than the dose. Very little is actually known about how Lupron (LH-RH) is used normally in the body. Using it wrong is known to cause osteoporosis. Which leads to . . . An alternate theory suggests the problem with low testosterone in people with HIV lies in an over-activation of the VDR receptor, which in turn is a possible cause of the low Interleukin-2 level and linked to unbalanced lipid metabolism. The most prominant researcher suggesting the involvement of VDR has created a great deal of animosity among other researchers whose work this upsets, in particular this upsets those researchers who have been advocating increased supplemenation with Vitamin D3. There's seemingly a lot of money and reputations being made on this vitamin. > > > Although these all work wonderfully in> > HIV negative people, it is my experience that they do not work in> > HIV+ people - proving the Pituitary signaling system does not> > function well in the presence of HIV infection.> > Barrow> pozbod@...> Quote
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2006 Report Posted May 21, 2006 Like most HIV+ people who have tried drugs which should increase testosterone production, Lupron, HCG and Clomid do not substantially increase my testosterone level. Some HIV+ people have found Clomid normalizes their testosterone level, and many have found a modest increase with HCG, but my sense is that this is a small minority - and generally seems to be people who have been infected for a relatively short period of time. I don't know of anyone who has seen success with Lupron. Activation with Lupron depends upon the rate of pulsation, rather than the dose. Very little is actually known about how Lupron (LH-RH) is used normally in the body. Using it wrong is known to cause osteoporosis. Which leads to . . . An alternate theory suggests the problem with low testosterone in people with HIV lies in an over-activation of the VDR receptor, which in turn is a possible cause of the low Interleukin-2 level and linked to unbalanced lipid metabolism. The most prominant researcher suggesting the involvement of VDR has created a great deal of animosity among other researchers whose work this upsets, in particular this upsets those researchers who have been advocating increased supplemenation with Vitamin D3. There's seemingly a lot of money and reputations being made on this vitamin. > > > Although these all work wonderfully in> > HIV negative people, it is my experience that they do not work in> > HIV+ people - proving the Pituitary signaling system does not> > function well in the presence of HIV infection.> > Barrow> pozbod@...> Quote
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