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This is fantastic information. I have added to my list. Brilliant thank you

Kath x

> >

> > - copaiba oil (never heard of it, interesting, tell me more)

> >

> > > - nano-particulate curcumin (better bioavailability) Didn't know of its

anti-inflammatory effects, heard of it more as an anti viral, like its being the

primary product in Enhansa. Not sure i want to mix enhansa with acyclovir, and

anyway, you need to work up slowly and anything I do like this I think I'm going

to do when i'M weaning off av.

> >

> > > - astaxanthin - had my eye on this. , doc had never heard of it.

Lots of people in US are using it. When I was researching it I found this link:

> > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2845588/?tool=pmcentrez

> > which shows it works as an immune modulator. Asked on TA facebook page but

didn't get any responses. Its an anti-oxidant as well. Mercola likes it, doesn't

he.

> >

> > Mercola's brand is really expensive, I think I'm going for the Now Foods one

or the solgar soft gels.

> >

> > The reason so far I'm avoiding Curcumin and Astaxathin for J at the moment

is they both have different actions in the body apart from anti-inflammatory,

that's why doing ibuprofen right now. Astaxathin I am trying on myself first to

see if its any good because lets put it this way, at the moment, I won't be

doing any dancing any time soon!

> >

> > Talk soon

> > Eileen

> >

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Hi Kath

What sort of OCD behaviours. If you don't feel comfortable sharing here,

Eileen.Chiverton@....

Have you got a base protocol of magnesium and EFAs.

More important have you got a sympathetic DAN? Been here, rocky road.

Eil xxx

>

> HI za

>

> We are now on day 9 of aciclovir and it's not good. Despite adding ibuprofen

after reading Eileens post (thanks Eileen) she appears agitated and unwell. OCD

behaviours are going through the roof. Not sure whether to continue.

>

> Prior to aciclovir we tried valtrex but she didn't tolerate that and vomited

on day 3.

>

> Hope you are having a better time of it

>

> KAth

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> Sent from my iPad

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Hi Kath

What sort of OCD behaviours. If you don't feel comfortable sharing here,

Eileen.Chiverton@....

Have you got a base protocol of magnesium and EFAs.

More important have you got a sympathetic DAN? Been here, rocky road.

Eil xxx

>

> HI za

>

> We are now on day 9 of aciclovir and it's not good. Despite adding ibuprofen

after reading Eileens post (thanks Eileen) she appears agitated and unwell. OCD

behaviours are going through the roof. Not sure whether to continue.

>

> Prior to aciclovir we tried valtrex but she didn't tolerate that and vomited

on day 3.

>

> Hope you are having a better time of it

>

> KAth

>

> Sent from my iPad

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Avoid Streptococcus Thermophilus if you have a child with strep.

Primal Defense is something I want to use for me one of these days. Natasa

havent picked up Primal Defense is tricky for strep, didn't see Strep strains in

ingredients what have I missed? Is the Bifidum? More than one sort? CP1 is OK

for us

I am so sorry about Eddie, I hate to hear this, it is what we had on original

V., brain virus. Dampen it right down, anti inflammatories, up your magnesium,

is he on EFAs, loads and loads of water.

MB12 and folinic. Is he on it za.

Talk to DG on Monday. xxxxx

Eileen

>

> Primal Defense is tricky if your child is sensitive, esp if strep suspected.

> Imo better go with something with as few strains as possible. Culturelle or

> something like that?

>

> Natasa

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> <Autism-Biomedical-Europe >

> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 06:52:14 -0000

> To: " Autism-Biomedical-Europe "

> <Autism-Biomedical-Europe >

> Subject: Re: aciclovir

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>

> hi eileen

>

> i'm really glad you posted the info about ibruprofen, poor eddie was in a

> real state last night, so i gave him some. we had only taken 4 x 800mg

> aciclovir yesterday, first day, and he was crying (very unlike him), rocking

> back and forth and holding his head, then running back and forth shouting

> with the crying. i will go in with your week long plan of profen today and

> keep a close eye on things.

>

> as you mentioned multi-strains of probos without strep in, do you have any

> suggestions other than cp1. most multi-strains have strep in then. i

> checked out primal defense ultra last night, looks good?!

>

> karenza

> xx

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I've heard PD is often not tolerated, don't know about strep but 'suspected' pandas better word. CP1 probably less reactive but again multi strain. According to NIDS fewer strains is better, they keep it to one or two max. Certainly been our experience. za, I've only just realised you mentioned 4 x 800mg – that is the full dose almost isn't it, my instinct would be to cut that to half 4 x 400mg, see what happens.You could be seeing IRIS there -Immune reconstitution inflammatory syndrome – it mostly happens in AIDS patients with very low CD4+ count when starting HAART. They used pulsed steroids to counteract it. Some severe ME patients get IRIS symptoms on GcMAF, sometimes Nexavir helps, also in some cases things like curcumin luteolin etc. Natasa Reply-To: "Autism-Biomedical-Europe " <Autism-Biomedical-Europe >Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 23:10:45 -0000To: "Autism-Biomedical-Europe " <Autism-Biomedical-Europe >Subject: Re: aciclovir

Avoid Streptococcus Thermophilus if you have a child with strep.

Primal Defense is something I want to use for me one of these days. Natasa havent picked up Primal Defense is tricky for strep, didn't see Strep strains in ingredients what have I missed? Is the Bifidum? More than one sort? CP1 is OK for us

I am so sorry about Eddie, I hate to hear this, it is what we had on original V., brain virus. Dampen it right down, anti inflammatories, up your magnesium, is he on EFAs, loads and loads of water.

MB12 and folinic. Is he on it za.

Talk to DG on Monday. xxxxx

Eileen

>

> Primal Defense is tricky if your child is sensitive, esp if strep suspected.

> Imo better go with something with as few strains as possible. Culturelle or

> something like that?

>

> Natasa

>

>

> Reply-To: "Autism-Biomedical-Europe "

> <Autism-Biomedical-Europe >

> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 06:52:14 -0000

> To: "Autism-Biomedical-Europe "

> <Autism-Biomedical-Europe >

> Subject: Re: aciclovir

>

>

>

>

>

>

> hi eileen

>

> i'm really glad you posted the info about ibruprofen, poor eddie was in a

> real state last night, so i gave him some. we had only taken 4 x 800mg

> aciclovir yesterday, first day, and he was crying (very unlike him), rocking

> back and forth and holding his head, then running back and forth shouting

> with the crying. i will go in with your week long plan of profen today and

> keep a close eye on things.

>

> as you mentioned multi-strains of probos without strep in, do you have any

> suggestions other than cp1. most multi-strains have strep in then. i

> checked out primal defense ultra last night, looks good?!

>

> karenza

> xx

>

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thank you natasa, you are a real brain, can't say i understand the IRIS concept,

will read around it. eddie's actually on 5 x 800mg per day. he seems to be

doing much better on it now, although ocd, tics much more intense.

karenza

> >

> > Primal Defense is tricky if your child is sensitive, esp if strep suspected.

> > Imo better go with something with as few strains as possible. Culturelle or

> > something like that?

> >

> > Natasa

> >

> > From: za <bbuyonline@>

> > Reply-To: " Autism-Biomedical-Europe

> <mailto:Autism-Biomedical-Europe%40yahoogroups.com> "

> > <Autism-Biomedical-Europe

> <mailto:Autism-Biomedical-Europe%40yahoogroups.com> >

> > Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 06:52:14 -0000

> > To: " Autism-Biomedical-Europe

> <mailto:Autism-Biomedical-Europe%40yahoogroups.com> "

> > <Autism-Biomedical-Europe

> <mailto:Autism-Biomedical-Europe%40yahoogroups.com> >

> > Subject: Re: aciclovir

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > hi eileen

> >

> > i'm really glad you posted the info about ibruprofen, poor eddie was in a

> > real state last night, so i gave him some. we had only taken 4 x 800mg

> > aciclovir yesterday, first day, and he was crying (very unlike him), rocking

> > back and forth and holding his head, then running back and forth shouting

> > with the crying. i will go in with your week long plan of profen today and

> > keep a close eye on things.

> >

> > as you mentioned multi-strains of probos without strep in, do you have any

> > suggestions other than cp1. most multi-strains have strep in then. i

> > checked out primal defense ultra last night, looks good?!

> >

> > karenza

> > xx

> >

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thank you natasa, you are a real brain, can't say i understand the IRIS concept,

will read around it. eddie's actually on 5 x 800mg per day. he seems to be

doing much better on it now, although ocd, tics much more intense.

karenza

> >

> > Primal Defense is tricky if your child is sensitive, esp if strep suspected.

> > Imo better go with something with as few strains as possible. Culturelle or

> > something like that?

> >

> > Natasa

> >

> > From: za <bbuyonline@>

> > Reply-To: " Autism-Biomedical-Europe

> <mailto:Autism-Biomedical-Europe%40yahoogroups.com> "

> > <Autism-Biomedical-Europe

> <mailto:Autism-Biomedical-Europe%40yahoogroups.com> >

> > Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 06:52:14 -0000

> > To: " Autism-Biomedical-Europe

> <mailto:Autism-Biomedical-Europe%40yahoogroups.com> "

> > <Autism-Biomedical-Europe

> <mailto:Autism-Biomedical-Europe%40yahoogroups.com> >

> > Subject: Re: aciclovir

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > hi eileen

> >

> > i'm really glad you posted the info about ibruprofen, poor eddie was in a

> > real state last night, so i gave him some. we had only taken 4 x 800mg

> > aciclovir yesterday, first day, and he was crying (very unlike him), rocking

> > back and forth and holding his head, then running back and forth shouting

> > with the crying. i will go in with your week long plan of profen today and

> > keep a close eye on things.

> >

> > as you mentioned multi-strains of probos without strep in, do you have any

> > suggestions other than cp1. most multi-strains have strep in then. i

> > checked out primal defense ultra last night, looks good?!

> >

> > karenza

> > xx

> >

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Yes , that's what we had, it was too much too soon for , the valtrex

at the dose we did it. Acyclovir working much better and a heck of a lot less

expensive. I understand what you are saying about the CD4+ Natasa, I want an

immune panel test to look at things like this, but can't get agreement on it in

UK currently. There was a good one we saw in Florida that parents were using.

J was sick whilst on aciclovir today, but hasn't been to date, told there was a

virus going round school when we brought him home.

Am putting more pieces together here, need more evidence. Subject of separate

post above, thank you for that excellent bit of info.

za I hope Eddie continues to do well.

Eileen xx

> >

> > hi eileen

> >

> > i'm really glad you posted the info about ibruprofen, poor eddie was in a

real state last night, so i gave him some. we had only taken 4 x 800mg

aciclovir yesterday, first day, and he was crying (very unlike him), rocking

back and forth and holding his head, then running back and forth shouting with

the crying. i will go in with your week long plan of profen today and keep a

close eye on things.

> >

> > as you mentioned multi-strains of probos without strep in, do you have any

suggestions other than cp1. most multi-strains have strep in then. i checked

out primal defense ultra last night, looks good?!

> >

> > karenza

> > xx

> >

>

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Yes , that's what we had, it was too much too soon for , the valtrex

at the dose we did it. Acyclovir working much better and a heck of a lot less

expensive. I understand what you are saying about the CD4+ Natasa, I want an

immune panel test to look at things like this, but can't get agreement on it in

UK currently. There was a good one we saw in Florida that parents were using.

J was sick whilst on aciclovir today, but hasn't been to date, told there was a

virus going round school when we brought him home.

Am putting more pieces together here, need more evidence. Subject of separate

post above, thank you for that excellent bit of info.

za I hope Eddie continues to do well.

Eileen xx

> >

> > hi eileen

> >

> > i'm really glad you posted the info about ibruprofen, poor eddie was in a

real state last night, so i gave him some. we had only taken 4 x 800mg

aciclovir yesterday, first day, and he was crying (very unlike him), rocking

back and forth and holding his head, then running back and forth shouting with

the crying. i will go in with your week long plan of profen today and keep a

close eye on things.

> >

> > as you mentioned multi-strains of probos without strep in, do you have any

suggestions other than cp1. most multi-strains have strep in then. i checked

out primal defense ultra last night, looks good?!

> >

> > karenza

> > xx

> >

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Yes , that's what we had, it was too much too soon for , the valtrex

at the dose we did it. Acyclovir working much better and a heck of a lot less

expensive. I understand what you are saying about the CD4+ Natasa, I want an

immune panel test to look at things like this, but can't get agreement on it in

UK currently. There was a good one we saw in Florida that parents were using.

J was sick whilst on aciclovir today, but hasn't been to date, told there was a

virus going round school when we brought him home.

Am putting more pieces together here, need more evidence. Subject of separate

post above, thank you for that excellent bit of info.

za I hope Eddie continues to do well.

Eileen xx

> >

> > hi eileen

> >

> > i'm really glad you posted the info about ibruprofen, poor eddie was in a

real state last night, so i gave him some. we had only taken 4 x 800mg

aciclovir yesterday, first day, and he was crying (very unlike him), rocking

back and forth and holding his head, then running back and forth shouting with

the crying. i will go in with your week long plan of profen today and keep a

close eye on things.

> >

> > as you mentioned multi-strains of probos without strep in, do you have any

suggestions other than cp1. most multi-strains have strep in then. i checked

out primal defense ultra last night, looks good?!

> >

> > karenza

> > xx

> >

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if it was me I would halve the dose. not speaking from experience, just

instinct.

Natasa

> Hi everyone

>

> 4 weeks into a course of aciclovir dd has gone bonkers.OCD gone through

> the roof, (was virtually unmanageable before starting the course) Big rise

> in aggression.Looks pale and unwell asking to go to hospital.

>

> Using ibuprofen,activated charcoal.

>

> Should I stop the aciclovir or push through.In anyone's experience do

> these sounds like " positive " effects! Is is safe to stop aciclovir

> abruptly or should I lower dose? Can't get hold of anyone at B for advice

>

> Kath

>

> Sent from my iPad

>

>

>

>> Yes , that's what we had, it was too much too soon for , the

>> valtrex at the dose we did it. Acyclovir working much better and a heck

>> of a lot less expensive. I understand what you are saying about the CD4+

>> Natasa, I want an immune panel test to look at things like this, but

>> can't get agreement on it in UK currently. There was a good one we saw

>> in Florida that parents were using.

>>

>> J was sick whilst on aciclovir today, but hasn't been to date, told

>> there was a virus going round school when we brought him home.

>>

>> Am putting more pieces together here, need more evidence. Subject of

>> separate post above, thank you for that excellent bit of info.

>>

>> za I hope Eddie continues to do well.

>>

>> Eileen xx

>>

>>

>> > >

>> > > hi eileen

>> > >

>> > > i'm really glad you posted the info about ibruprofen, poor eddie was

>> in a real state last night, so i gave him some. we had only taken 4

>> x 800mg aciclovir yesterday, first day, and he was crying (very

>> unlike him), rocking back and forth and holding his head, then

>> running back and forth shouting with the crying. i will go in with

>> your week long plan of profen today and keep a close eye on things.

>> > >

>> > > as you mentioned multi-strains of probos without strep in, do you

>> have any suggestions other than cp1. most multi-strains have strep

>> in then. i checked out primal defense ultra last night, looks good?!

>> > >

>> > > karenza

>> > > xx

>> > >

>> >

>>

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if it was me I would halve the dose. not speaking from experience, just

instinct.

Natasa

> Hi everyone

>

> 4 weeks into a course of aciclovir dd has gone bonkers.OCD gone through

> the roof, (was virtually unmanageable before starting the course) Big rise

> in aggression.Looks pale and unwell asking to go to hospital.

>

> Using ibuprofen,activated charcoal.

>

> Should I stop the aciclovir or push through.In anyone's experience do

> these sounds like " positive " effects! Is is safe to stop aciclovir

> abruptly or should I lower dose? Can't get hold of anyone at B for advice

>

> Kath

>

> Sent from my iPad

>

>

>

>> Yes , that's what we had, it was too much too soon for , the

>> valtrex at the dose we did it. Acyclovir working much better and a heck

>> of a lot less expensive. I understand what you are saying about the CD4+

>> Natasa, I want an immune panel test to look at things like this, but

>> can't get agreement on it in UK currently. There was a good one we saw

>> in Florida that parents were using.

>>

>> J was sick whilst on aciclovir today, but hasn't been to date, told

>> there was a virus going round school when we brought him home.

>>

>> Am putting more pieces together here, need more evidence. Subject of

>> separate post above, thank you for that excellent bit of info.

>>

>> za I hope Eddie continues to do well.

>>

>> Eileen xx

>>

>>

>> > >

>> > > hi eileen

>> > >

>> > > i'm really glad you posted the info about ibruprofen, poor eddie was

>> in a real state last night, so i gave him some. we had only taken 4

>> x 800mg aciclovir yesterday, first day, and he was crying (very

>> unlike him), rocking back and forth and holding his head, then

>> running back and forth shouting with the crying. i will go in with

>> your week long plan of profen today and keep a close eye on things.

>> > >

>> > > as you mentioned multi-strains of probos without strep in, do you

>> have any suggestions other than cp1. most multi-strains have strep

>> in then. i checked out primal defense ultra last night, looks good?!

>> > >

>> > > karenza

>> > > xx

>> > >

>> >

>>

>>

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if it was me I would halve the dose. not speaking from experience, just

instinct.

Natasa

> Hi everyone

>

> 4 weeks into a course of aciclovir dd has gone bonkers.OCD gone through

> the roof, (was virtually unmanageable before starting the course) Big rise

> in aggression.Looks pale and unwell asking to go to hospital.

>

> Using ibuprofen,activated charcoal.

>

> Should I stop the aciclovir or push through.In anyone's experience do

> these sounds like " positive " effects! Is is safe to stop aciclovir

> abruptly or should I lower dose? Can't get hold of anyone at B for advice

>

> Kath

>

> Sent from my iPad

>

>

>

>> Yes , that's what we had, it was too much too soon for , the

>> valtrex at the dose we did it. Acyclovir working much better and a heck

>> of a lot less expensive. I understand what you are saying about the CD4+

>> Natasa, I want an immune panel test to look at things like this, but

>> can't get agreement on it in UK currently. There was a good one we saw

>> in Florida that parents were using.

>>

>> J was sick whilst on aciclovir today, but hasn't been to date, told

>> there was a virus going round school when we brought him home.

>>

>> Am putting more pieces together here, need more evidence. Subject of

>> separate post above, thank you for that excellent bit of info.

>>

>> za I hope Eddie continues to do well.

>>

>> Eileen xx

>>

>>

>> > >

>> > > hi eileen

>> > >

>> > > i'm really glad you posted the info about ibruprofen, poor eddie was

>> in a real state last night, so i gave him some. we had only taken 4

>> x 800mg aciclovir yesterday, first day, and he was crying (very

>> unlike him), rocking back and forth and holding his head, then

>> running back and forth shouting with the crying. i will go in with

>> your week long plan of profen today and keep a close eye on things.

>> > >

>> > > as you mentioned multi-strains of probos without strep in, do you

>> have any suggestions other than cp1. most multi-strains have strep

>> in then. i checked out primal defense ultra last night, looks good?!

>> > >

>> > > karenza

>> > > xx

>> > >

>> >

>>

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btw are you using antifungals? asking because for us it was nystatin that

caused aggression - luckily we started it few weeks after valtrex so it

was easy to tell...

nx

> This sounds very serious. I have no experience with this or with Valtrex,

> sorry. Is there no doctor at the Breakspear who will speak to you today?

> There really should be.

>

> I hope list members with experience of prescription anti-virals reply as

> soon as possible. I remember at least one person (Mandi?) saying Valtrex

> caused such awful side -effects it had to be stopped.

>

> Can the pharmacy at the Breakspear help you?

>

> Margaret

>

>

>> > > >

>> > > > hi eileen

>> > > >

>> > > > i'm really glad you posted the info about ibruprofen, poor eddie

>> was in a real state last night, so i gave him some. we had only

>> taken 4 x 800mg aciclovir yesterday, first day, and he was crying

>> (very unlike him), rocking back and forth and holding his head,

>> then running back and forth shouting with the crying. i will go

>> in with your week long plan of profen today and keep a close eye

>> on things.

>> > > >

>> > > > as you mentioned multi-strains of probos without strep in, do you

>> have any suggestions other than cp1. most multi-strains have strep

>> in then. i checked out primal defense ultra last night, looks

>> good?!

>> > > >

>> > > > karenza

>> > > > xx

>> > > >

>> > >

>> >

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btw are you using antifungals? asking because for us it was nystatin that

caused aggression - luckily we started it few weeks after valtrex so it

was easy to tell...

nx

> This sounds very serious. I have no experience with this or with Valtrex,

> sorry. Is there no doctor at the Breakspear who will speak to you today?

> There really should be.

>

> I hope list members with experience of prescription anti-virals reply as

> soon as possible. I remember at least one person (Mandi?) saying Valtrex

> caused such awful side -effects it had to be stopped.

>

> Can the pharmacy at the Breakspear help you?

>

> Margaret

>

>

>> > > >

>> > > > hi eileen

>> > > >

>> > > > i'm really glad you posted the info about ibruprofen, poor eddie

>> was in a real state last night, so i gave him some. we had only

>> taken 4 x 800mg aciclovir yesterday, first day, and he was crying

>> (very unlike him), rocking back and forth and holding his head,

>> then running back and forth shouting with the crying. i will go

>> in with your week long plan of profen today and keep a close eye

>> on things.

>> > > >

>> > > > as you mentioned multi-strains of probos without strep in, do you

>> have any suggestions other than cp1. most multi-strains have strep

>> in then. i checked out primal defense ultra last night, looks

>> good?!

>> > > >

>> > > > karenza

>> > > > xx

>> > > >

>> > >

>> >

>> >

>>

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btw are you using antifungals? asking because for us it was nystatin that

caused aggression - luckily we started it few weeks after valtrex so it

was easy to tell...

nx

> This sounds very serious. I have no experience with this or with Valtrex,

> sorry. Is there no doctor at the Breakspear who will speak to you today?

> There really should be.

>

> I hope list members with experience of prescription anti-virals reply as

> soon as possible. I remember at least one person (Mandi?) saying Valtrex

> caused such awful side -effects it had to be stopped.

>

> Can the pharmacy at the Breakspear help you?

>

> Margaret

>

>

>> > > >

>> > > > hi eileen

>> > > >

>> > > > i'm really glad you posted the info about ibruprofen, poor eddie

>> was in a real state last night, so i gave him some. we had only

>> taken 4 x 800mg aciclovir yesterday, first day, and he was crying

>> (very unlike him), rocking back and forth and holding his head,

>> then running back and forth shouting with the crying. i will go

>> in with your week long plan of profen today and keep a close eye

>> on things.

>> > > >

>> > > > as you mentioned multi-strains of probos without strep in, do you

>> have any suggestions other than cp1. most multi-strains have strep

>> in then. i checked out primal defense ultra last night, looks

>> good?!

>> > > >

>> > > > karenza

>> > > > xx

>> > > >

>> > >

>> >

>> >

>>

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I'd be inclined to stop given so poorly asking for hospital, we stopped Valtrex with Sam as I couldn't handle the aggression, he was pale also..................DG wants Sam on this one next, school would go bonkers with these sorts of reactions for sure

Mx

Hi everyone

4 weeks into a course of aciclovir dd has gone bonkers.OCD gone through the roof, (was virtually unmanageable before starting the course) Big rise in aggression.Looks pale and unwell asking to go to hospital.

Using ibuprofen,activated charcoal.

Should I stop the aciclovir or push through.In anyone's experience do these sounds like "positive" effects! Is is safe to stop aciclovir abruptly or should I lower dose? Can't get hold of anyone at B for advice

KathSent from my iPad

Yes , that's what we had, it was too much too soon for , the valtrex at the dose we did it. Acyclovir working much better and a heck of a lot less expensive. I understand what you are saying about the CD4+ Natasa, I want an immune panel test to look at things like this, but can't get agreement on it in UK currently. There was a good one we saw in Florida that parents were using.J was sick whilst on aciclovir today, but hasn't been to date, told there was a virus going round school when we brought him home. Am putting more pieces together here, need more evidence. Subject of separate post above, thank you for that excellent bit of info. za I hope Eddie continues to do well.Eileen xx> >> > hi eileen> > > > i'm really glad you posted the info about ibruprofen, poor eddie was in a real state last night, so i gave him some. we had only taken 4 x 800mg aciclovir yesterday, first day, and he was crying (very unlike him), rocking back and forth and holding his head, then running back and forth shouting with the crying. i will go in with your week long plan of profen today and keep a close eye on things.> > > > as you mentioned multi-strains of probos without strep in, do you have any suggestions other than cp1. most multi-strains have strep in then. i checked out primal defense ultra last night, looks good?!> > > > karenza> > xx> >>

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Hi,

just a simple question wrt to the use of aciclovir- do all your children suffer

from life threatning herpes infections (is spread to

the brain)?

Oz

> >> > >

> >> > > hi eileen

> >> > >

> >> > > i'm really glad you posted the info about ibruprofen, poor eddie was

> >> in a real state last night, so i gave him some. we had only taken 4

> >> x 800mg aciclovir yesterday, first day, and he was crying (very

> >> unlike him), rocking back and forth and holding his head, then

> >> running back and forth shouting with the crying. i will go in with

> >> your week long plan of profen today and keep a close eye on things.

> >> > >

> >> > > as you mentioned multi-strains of probos without strep in, do you

> >> have any suggestions other than cp1. most multi-strains have strep

> >> in then. i checked out primal defense ultra last night, looks good?!

> >> > >

> >> > > karenza

> >> > > xx

> >> > >

> >> >

> >>

> >>

> >

>

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Hi,

just a simple question wrt to the use of aciclovir- do all your children suffer

from life threatning herpes infections (is spread to

the brain)?

Oz

> >> > >

> >> > > hi eileen

> >> > >

> >> > > i'm really glad you posted the info about ibruprofen, poor eddie was

> >> in a real state last night, so i gave him some. we had only taken 4

> >> x 800mg aciclovir yesterday, first day, and he was crying (very

> >> unlike him), rocking back and forth and holding his head, then

> >> running back and forth shouting with the crying. i will go in with

> >> your week long plan of profen today and keep a close eye on things.

> >> > >

> >> > > as you mentioned multi-strains of probos without strep in, do you

> >> have any suggestions other than cp1. most multi-strains have strep

> >> in then. i checked out primal defense ultra last night, looks good?!

> >> > >

> >> > > karenza

> >> > > xx

> >> > >

> >> >

> >>

> >>

> >

>

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Hi,

just a simple question wrt to the use of aciclovir- do all your children suffer

from life threatning herpes infections (is spread to

the brain)?

Oz

> >> > >

> >> > > hi eileen

> >> > >

> >> > > i'm really glad you posted the info about ibruprofen, poor eddie was

> >> in a real state last night, so i gave him some. we had only taken 4

> >> x 800mg aciclovir yesterday, first day, and he was crying (very

> >> unlike him), rocking back and forth and holding his head, then

> >> running back and forth shouting with the crying. i will go in with

> >> your week long plan of profen today and keep a close eye on things.

> >> > >

> >> > > as you mentioned multi-strains of probos without strep in, do you

> >> have any suggestions other than cp1. most multi-strains have strep

> >> in then. i checked out primal defense ultra last night, looks good?!

> >> > >

> >> > > karenza

> >> > > xx

> >> > >

> >> >

> >>

> >>

> >

>

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http://www.tarzanacme.com/Video.aspx?Vid=158From: oscar_barba_uk Reply-To: "Autism-Biomedical-Europe " <Autism-Biomedical-Europe >Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 06:57:21 -0000To: "Autism-Biomedical-Europe " <Autism-Biomedical-Europe >Subject: Re: aciclovir

Hi,

just a simple question wrt to the use of aciclovir- do all your children suffer from life threatning herpes infections (is spread to

the brain)?

Oz

> >> > >

> >> > > hi eileen

> >> > >

> >> > > i'm really glad you posted the info about ibruprofen, poor eddie was

> >> in a real state last night, so i gave him some. we had only taken 4

> >> x 800mg aciclovir yesterday, first day, and he was crying (very

> >> unlike him), rocking back and forth and holding his head, then

> >> running back and forth shouting with the crying. i will go in with

> >> your week long plan of profen today and keep a close eye on things.

> >> > >

> >> > > as you mentioned multi-strains of probos without strep in, do you

> >> have any suggestions other than cp1. most multi-strains have strep

> >> in then. i checked out primal defense ultra last night, looks good?!

> >> > >

> >> > > karenza

> >> > > xx

> >> > >

> >> >

> >>

> >>

> >

>

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http://www.tarzanacme.com/Video.aspx?Vid=158From: oscar_barba_uk Reply-To: "Autism-Biomedical-Europe " <Autism-Biomedical-Europe >Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 06:57:21 -0000To: "Autism-Biomedical-Europe " <Autism-Biomedical-Europe >Subject: Re: aciclovir

Hi,

just a simple question wrt to the use of aciclovir- do all your children suffer from life threatning herpes infections (is spread to

the brain)?

Oz

> >> > >

> >> > > hi eileen

> >> > >

> >> > > i'm really glad you posted the info about ibruprofen, poor eddie was

> >> in a real state last night, so i gave him some. we had only taken 4

> >> x 800mg aciclovir yesterday, first day, and he was crying (very

> >> unlike him), rocking back and forth and holding his head, then

> >> running back and forth shouting with the crying. i will go in with

> >> your week long plan of profen today and keep a close eye on things.

> >> > >

> >> > > as you mentioned multi-strains of probos without strep in, do you

> >> have any suggestions other than cp1. most multi-strains have strep

> >> in then. i checked out primal defense ultra last night, looks good?!

> >> > >

> >> > > karenza

> >> > > xx

> >> > >

> >> >

> >>

> >>

> >

>

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http://www.tarzanacme.com/Video.aspx?Vid=158From: oscar_barba_uk Reply-To: "Autism-Biomedical-Europe " <Autism-Biomedical-Europe >Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 06:57:21 -0000To: "Autism-Biomedical-Europe " <Autism-Biomedical-Europe >Subject: Re: aciclovir

Hi,

just a simple question wrt to the use of aciclovir- do all your children suffer from life threatning herpes infections (is spread to

the brain)?

Oz

> >> > >

> >> > > hi eileen

> >> > >

> >> > > i'm really glad you posted the info about ibruprofen, poor eddie was

> >> in a real state last night, so i gave him some. we had only taken 4

> >> x 800mg aciclovir yesterday, first day, and he was crying (very

> >> unlike him), rocking back and forth and holding his head, then

> >> running back and forth shouting with the crying. i will go in with

> >> your week long plan of profen today and keep a close eye on things.

> >> > >

> >> > > as you mentioned multi-strains of probos without strep in, do you

> >> have any suggestions other than cp1. most multi-strains have strep

> >> in then. i checked out primal defense ultra last night, looks good?!

> >> > >

> >> > > karenza

> >> > > xx

> >> > >

> >> >

> >>

> >>

> >

>

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hello kath

in my experience with my son we needed an anti viral an anti fungal and an anti

yeast we implemented valtrex after 3 days we introduced anti yeast diflucan [

no fenol and candex both can do the job in my experience ] and then towards

the end we introduced ibupfoen and artemesia and then gse to get rid of gut

backetria. I stopped the bacteria

anti fungal a week ago but it came back with a vengeance so we are back on gse

you could have a look at darlaview.net it gives a sure indication for naturals

and is helpful as she had many children..

we plan to repeat the anti virals etc soon after backteria has come down enough

it seems to be a circle but we see improvements so seems best way to go...

Isobel x

> > > >

> > > > hi eileen

> > > >

> > > > i'm really glad you posted the info about ibruprofen, poor eddie was in

a real state last night, so i gave him some. we had only taken 4 x 800mg

aciclovir yesterday, first day, and he was crying (very unlike him), rocking

back and forth and holding his head, then running back and forth shouting with

the crying. i will go in with your week long plan of profen today and keep a

close eye on things.

> > > >

> > > > as you mentioned multi-strains of probos without strep in, do you have

any suggestions other than cp1. most multi-strains have strep in then. i checked

out primal defense ultra last night, looks good?!

> > > >

> > > > karenza

> > > > xx

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

>

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hello kath

in my experience with my son we needed an anti viral an anti fungal and an anti

yeast we implemented valtrex after 3 days we introduced anti yeast diflucan [

no fenol and candex both can do the job in my experience ] and then towards

the end we introduced ibupfoen and artemesia and then gse to get rid of gut

backetria. I stopped the bacteria

anti fungal a week ago but it came back with a vengeance so we are back on gse

you could have a look at darlaview.net it gives a sure indication for naturals

and is helpful as she had many children..

we plan to repeat the anti virals etc soon after backteria has come down enough

it seems to be a circle but we see improvements so seems best way to go...

Isobel x

> > > >

> > > > hi eileen

> > > >

> > > > i'm really glad you posted the info about ibruprofen, poor eddie was in

a real state last night, so i gave him some. we had only taken 4 x 800mg

aciclovir yesterday, first day, and he was crying (very unlike him), rocking

back and forth and holding his head, then running back and forth shouting with

the crying. i will go in with your week long plan of profen today and keep a

close eye on things.

> > > >

> > > > as you mentioned multi-strains of probos without strep in, do you have

any suggestions other than cp1. most multi-strains have strep in then. i checked

out primal defense ultra last night, looks good?!

> > > >

> > > > karenza

> > > > xx

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

>

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