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Dear Anon:

Thanks so much for replying, wow, people really do

read and validate for others. You are very right

about being focused on her for my entire life. How

difficult to switch gears and focus on myself, my

child, marriage. My husband has had to endure a lot

of " bad boundaries " imposed upon him by me. Now I

realize that, and need to make some changes. I did

eventually stop asking him to go home with me.

How do I get my dad to see all this? In one sense he's

figured out a method that works for him, but in

another sense he's enabling her, especially in

agreeing with her on important issues such as

prescription drug use, staying in bed all day, and the

well being of others, namely my child who's now only

three. I just want him to know he's not alone and

there are other ways to go about it.

But you're right, neither he nor I are her therapist.

I guess I'll just send him a SWOE book, to his office.

Thanks,

KT

--- Anon Mous wrote:

I would like to comment on this though... You said

> " Now I wonder what to do to get her back to being

more functional. " I want to caution you of a few

things: 1) very few BPs are open to the

> idea that they might have BPD, let alone to the idea

> that they need to " improve " . Your mother probably

thinks that she's perfectly functional (evidenced by

her willingness to put your child's LIFE at risk).

Number 2, even if she wants to improve,

> it is NOT YOUR JOB to get your mother more

> functional. Only she can make changes and do things

to help herself, and (given point

> number one) this is probably not very likely. If

> she does show a willingness to change, the best you

can do is tell her you are there for her and you love

and support her. YOU CANNOT FIX HER.

> You need to focus on working on YOURSELF. If your

> life was anything like mine, you spent most of it

focused on your mother. It's time to pay some

well-deserved attention to your Self.

>

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Dear Anon:

Thanks so much for replying, wow, people really do

read and validate for others. You are very right

about being focused on her for my entire life. How

difficult to switch gears and focus on myself, my

child, marriage. My husband has had to endure a lot

of " bad boundaries " imposed upon him by me. Now I

realize that, and need to make some changes. I did

eventually stop asking him to go home with me.

How do I get my dad to see all this? In one sense he's

figured out a method that works for him, but in

another sense he's enabling her, especially in

agreeing with her on important issues such as

prescription drug use, staying in bed all day, and the

well being of others, namely my child who's now only

three. I just want him to know he's not alone and

there are other ways to go about it.

But you're right, neither he nor I are her therapist.

I guess I'll just send him a SWOE book, to his office.

Thanks,

KT

--- Anon Mous wrote:

I would like to comment on this though... You said

> " Now I wonder what to do to get her back to being

more functional. " I want to caution you of a few

things: 1) very few BPs are open to the

> idea that they might have BPD, let alone to the idea

> that they need to " improve " . Your mother probably

thinks that she's perfectly functional (evidenced by

her willingness to put your child's LIFE at risk).

Number 2, even if she wants to improve,

> it is NOT YOUR JOB to get your mother more

> functional. Only she can make changes and do things

to help herself, and (given point

> number one) this is probably not very likely. If

> she does show a willingness to change, the best you

can do is tell her you are there for her and you love

and support her. YOU CANNOT FIX HER.

> You need to focus on working on YOURSELF. If your

> life was anything like mine, you spent most of it

focused on your mother. It's time to pay some

well-deserved attention to your Self.

>

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Dear Anon:

Thanks so much for replying, wow, people really do

read and validate for others. You are very right

about being focused on her for my entire life. How

difficult to switch gears and focus on myself, my

child, marriage. My husband has had to endure a lot

of " bad boundaries " imposed upon him by me. Now I

realize that, and need to make some changes. I did

eventually stop asking him to go home with me.

How do I get my dad to see all this? In one sense he's

figured out a method that works for him, but in

another sense he's enabling her, especially in

agreeing with her on important issues such as

prescription drug use, staying in bed all day, and the

well being of others, namely my child who's now only

three. I just want him to know he's not alone and

there are other ways to go about it.

But you're right, neither he nor I are her therapist.

I guess I'll just send him a SWOE book, to his office.

Thanks,

KT

--- Anon Mous wrote:

I would like to comment on this though... You said

> " Now I wonder what to do to get her back to being

more functional. " I want to caution you of a few

things: 1) very few BPs are open to the

> idea that they might have BPD, let alone to the idea

> that they need to " improve " . Your mother probably

thinks that she's perfectly functional (evidenced by

her willingness to put your child's LIFE at risk).

Number 2, even if she wants to improve,

> it is NOT YOUR JOB to get your mother more

> functional. Only she can make changes and do things

to help herself, and (given point

> number one) this is probably not very likely. If

> she does show a willingness to change, the best you

can do is tell her you are there for her and you love

and support her. YOU CANNOT FIX HER.

> You need to focus on working on YOURSELF. If your

> life was anything like mine, you spent most of it

focused on your mother. It's time to pay some

well-deserved attention to your Self.

>

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KT,

I also struggle with how to handle things with my dad. He is a

wonderful, caring, loving (co-dependent) person. When I first

found out about BPD, I told him all about it. He read I Hate

You, Don't Leave Me, and I e-mailed him excerpts from SWOE and

other resources. We discussed it a lot and how it applied to

nada. He was pretty open and we shared a lot of things. I

realized after a few weeks, though, that I was trying to

" rescue " him. In my own, lovely co-dependent way, I was trying

to manipulate his behavior to be what I wanted (dump nada and

love me). I have now realized that I can't do that. I still

share with him any knowledge I have, as well as resources

(although he doesn't feel free to read all the books I have... I

mean, what do you say when your spouse asks why you're reading a

book on BPD?). I know that I have to be content with providing

him with all of the knowledge that is available to me, and then

letting him decide what to do. He is his own person, and he has

to make up his own mind -- I can't be responsible for him

(sometimes a difficult concept for me, with all of my

co-dependent leanings!).

I do think, though, that letting him know he's not alone, and

that you love and support him, no matter what he decides to do,

is a very good thing. I think it's important for us KOs to

learn to do this, because it's what we so desperately needed

(but didn't get) from the BP in our life.

I hope this helps.

Hugs,

Anon

--- K T wrote:

> Dear Anon:

>

> Thanks so much for replying, wow, people really do

> read and validate for others. You are very right

> about being focused on her for my entire life. How

> difficult to switch gears and focus on myself, my

> child, marriage. My husband has had to endure a lot

> of " bad boundaries " imposed upon him by me. Now I

> realize that, and need to make some changes. I did

> eventually stop asking him to go home with me.

>

> How do I get my dad to see all this? In one sense he's

> figured out a method that works for him, but in

> another sense he's enabling her, especially in

> agreeing with her on important issues such as

> prescription drug use, staying in bed all day, and the

> well being of others, namely my child who's now only

> three. I just want him to know he's not alone and

> there are other ways to go about it.

>

> But you're right, neither he nor I are her therapist.

> I guess I'll just send him a SWOE book, to his office.

>

> Thanks,

> KT

>

> --- Anon Mous wrote:

> I would like to comment on this though... You said

> > " Now I wonder what to do to get her back to being

> more functional. " I want to caution you of a few

> things: 1) very few BPs are open to the

> > idea that they might have BPD, let alone to the idea

> > that they need to " improve " . Your mother probably

> thinks that she's perfectly functional (evidenced by

> her willingness to put your child's LIFE at risk).

> Number 2, even if she wants to improve,

> > it is NOT YOUR JOB to get your mother more

> > functional. Only she can make changes and do things

> to help herself, and (given point

> > number one) this is probably not very likely. If

> > she does show a willingness to change, the best you

> can do is tell her you are there for her and you love

> and support her. YOU CANNOT FIX HER.

> > You need to focus on working on YOURSELF. If your

> > life was anything like mine, you spent most of it

> focused on your mother. It's time to pay some

> well-deserved attention to your Self.

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