Re:Good bye Baingan

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When had first entered our group, I had

allowed many of her mails to be published anonymously. I think that

any sensible person could have seen that the mails were fun loving

and were not meant to hurt anybody.

What I mean by saying that it was unnecessary to resign is that in

due course we could have learned the identity of this member, just like

Neeti. Does not everyone remember the extreme pleasure that Neeti's

sudden entry had caused?>>>

Dear Munish and All,

I would also like to add my bit here to make few

things clearer to the group.When i had sent my first anonymous mail to this

group.... my intentions were purely to distract the group from the most

controversial topic of the religion.......at that time i wasn't even thinking of

participating actively in the group discussions......but thats not the issue

here.The point i'm trying to tell the group (may be Kishore doesn't even

remember that) is,despite my declaration that " guess me " game was just to

change the course of conversation..........it was no one else but our moderator

Kishore who had very clearly objected to my anonymous mails,and i did get a very

stern mail from him telling me to declare my identity very soon......and i still

remember he had also said, " even though i've published your mails since they are

not malicious but i've an obligation to follow the policies of this group

........and i'll be forced to stop you from further participating

in the group discussions " Even though at that time i didn't like his strictness

and objection to my harmless anonymity.....but now after reading all this BB,GSG

and Munish's confusion about this group's policies.............i think Kishore

was genuinely right in stopping me (i wish i had saved that " strict " letter to

quote to this group as it is !!) .........and i must say Kishore definitely did

his best as a moderator which i did not understand at that point........ but i

can now very clearly see the tough challenges he faces at times as a moderator.

So guys if we can not do anything in return for the

relentless,selfless and most of all " thankless " services our efficient moderator

has been providing us for years and years........lets stop picking on him for

his challenging job.....lets not make a mountain of a molehill.......lets not

question him about his orientation towards the policies of this

group................'coz as far as i know he was very duty conscious regarding

my anonymous mails and i can say that with a confidence (which comes from my own

experience).

I hope that helps .

Neeti'86

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[Guest guest]

<<<

When had first entered our group, I had

allowed many of her mails to be published anonymously. I think that

any sensible person could have seen that the mails were fun loving

and were not meant to hurt anybody.

What I mean by saying that it was unnecessary to resign is that in

due course we could have learned the identity of this member, just like

Neeti. Does not everyone remember the extreme pleasure that Neeti's

sudden entry had caused?>>>

Dear Munish and All,

I would also like to add my bit here to make few

things clearer to the group.When i had sent my first anonymous mail to this

group.... my intentions were purely to distract the group from the most

controversial topic of the religion.......at that time i wasn't even thinking of

participating actively in the group discussions......but thats not the issue

here.The point i'm trying to tell the group (may be Kishore doesn't even

remember that) is,despite my declaration that " guess me " game was just to

change the course of conversation..........it was no one else but our moderator

Kishore who had very clearly objected to my anonymous mails,and i did get a very

stern mail from him telling me to declare my identity very soon......and i still

remember he had also said, " even though i've published your mails since they are

not malicious but i've an obligation to follow the policies of this group

........and i'll be forced to stop you from further participating

in the group discussions " Even though at that time i didn't like his strictness

and objection to my harmless anonymity.....but now after reading all this BB,GSG

and Munish's confusion about this group's policies.............i think Kishore

was genuinely right in stopping me (i wish i had saved that " strict " letter to

quote to this group as it is !!) .........and i must say Kishore definitely did

his best as a moderator which i did not understand at that point........ but i

can now very clearly see the tough challenges he faces at times as a moderator.

So guys if we can not do anything in return for the

relentless,selfless and most of all " thankless " services our efficient moderator

has been providing us for years and years........lets stop picking on him for

his challenging job.....lets not make a mountain of a molehill.......lets not

question him about his orientation towards the policies of this

group................'coz as far as i know he was very duty conscious regarding

my anonymous mails and i can say that with a confidence (which comes from my own

experience).

I hope that helps .

Neeti'86

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

<<<

When had first entered our group, I had

allowed many of her mails to be published anonymously. I think that

any sensible person could have seen that the mails were fun loving

and were not meant to hurt anybody.

What I mean by saying that it was unnecessary to resign is that in

due course we could have learned the identity of this member, just like

Neeti. Does not everyone remember the extreme pleasure that Neeti's

sudden entry had caused?>>>

Dear Munish and All,

I would also like to add my bit here to make few

things clearer to the group.When i had sent my first anonymous mail to this

group.... my intentions were purely to distract the group from the most

controversial topic of the religion.......at that time i wasn't even thinking of

participating actively in the group discussions......but thats not the issue

here.The point i'm trying to tell the group (may be Kishore doesn't even

remember that) is,despite my declaration that " guess me " game was just to

change the course of conversation..........it was no one else but our moderator

Kishore who had very clearly objected to my anonymous mails,and i did get a very

stern mail from him telling me to declare my identity very soon......and i still

remember he had also said, " even though i've published your mails since they are

not malicious but i've an obligation to follow the policies of this group

........and i'll be forced to stop you from further participating

in the group discussions " Even though at that time i didn't like his strictness

and objection to my harmless anonymity.....but now after reading all this BB,GSG

and Munish's confusion about this group's policies.............i think Kishore

was genuinely right in stopping me (i wish i had saved that " strict " letter to

quote to this group as it is !!) .........and i must say Kishore definitely did

his best as a moderator which i did not understand at that point........ but i

can now very clearly see the tough challenges he faces at times as a moderator.

So guys if we can not do anything in return for the

relentless,selfless and most of all " thankless " services our efficient moderator

has been providing us for years and years........lets stop picking on him for

his challenging job.....lets not make a mountain of a molehill.......lets not

question him about his orientation towards the policies of this

group................'coz as far as i know he was very duty conscious regarding

my anonymous mails and i can say that with a confidence (which comes from my own

experience).

I hope that helps .

Neeti'86

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

<<So guys if we can not do anything in return for the relentless,selfless and

most of all " thankless " services our efficient moderator has been providing us

for years and years........lets stop picking on him for his challenging

job.....lets not make a mountain of a molehill.......lets not question him about

his orientation towards the policies of this group................'coz as far as

i know he was very duty conscious regarding my anonymous mails and i can say

that with a confidence (which comes from my own experience).>>

Objections me Lord ( Neeti, Kishore..) !

To err is human...nobody's judgement is infallible.....that includes our very

own Kishoreda.

Now I also got that feeling but I did not dare that express that....because of

this " Khabardaar Kishore ko kucch bola to " attitude of the group and I really

appreciate Munish's courage. While we are indebted to Kishore's selfless,

mature, balanced moderation let us not promote sycophancy. I disagree with you

Neeti when you say thet it is a thankless job...We all are very thankful... the

mere act of tuning into the group is testimonial to everybody's appreciation.

Between our busy profession, golf , other responsibilities we find this group so

invigorating that we faithfully tune in almost daily.Even the silent readership

has to be tuning in regularly other wise they would be on the bouncer's list.

And all this is nothing but a pat on Kishore's shoulder for his artful

moderation...the only reason this group is so alive and ticking is beacause of

the extent of mails he allows....like he says he almost doesn't delete any

mails. The other protective feature is that mails have to be deleted in their

entirety and cannot be just edited. True freedom of speech is entertained here

and thats what makes it so invaluable.

Now every now and then he has to communicate directly with a member like he did

with you. Thanks for clarifying.

Ashok Bhaskar 1984

wrote:

<<<

When had first entered our group, I had

allowed many of her mails to be published anonymously. I think that

any sensible person could have seen that the mails were fun loving

and were not meant to hurt anybody.

What I mean by saying that it was unnecessary to resign is that in

due course we could have learned the identity of this member, just like

Neeti. Does not everyone remember the extreme pleasure that Neeti's

sudden entry had caused?>>>

Dear Munish and All,

I would also like to add my bit here to make few

things clearer to the group.When i had sent my first anonymous mail to this

group.... my intentions were purely to distract the group from the most

controversial topic of the religion.......at that time i wasn't even thinking of

participating actively in the group discussions......but thats not the issue

here.The point i'm trying to tell the group (may be Kishore doesn't even

remember that) is,despite my declaration that " guess me " game was just to

change the course of conversation..........it was no one else but our moderator

Kishore who had very clearly objected to my anonymous mails,and i did get a very

stern mail from him telling me to declare my identity very soon......and i still

remember he had also said, " even though i've published your mails since they are

not malicious but i've an obligation to follow the policies of this group

........and i'll be forced to stop you from further participating

in the group discussions " Even though at that time i didn't like his strictness

and objection to my harmless anonymity.....but now after reading all this BB,GSG

and Munish's confusion about this group's policies.............i think Kishore

was genuinely right in stopping me (i wish i had saved that " strict " letter to

quote to this group as it is !!) .........and i must say Kishore definitely did

his best as a moderator which i did not understand at that point........ but i

can now very clearly see the tough challenges he faces at times as a moderator.

So guys if we can not do anything in return for the

relentless,selfless and most of all " thankless " services our efficient moderator

has been providing us for years and years........lets stop picking on him for

his challenging job.....lets not make a mountain of a molehill.......lets not

question him about his orientation towards the policies of this

group................'coz as far as i know he was very duty conscious regarding

my anonymous mails and i can say that with a confidence (which comes from my own

experience).

I hope that helps .

Neeti'86

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

>> Objections me Lord ( Neeti, Kishore..) !

Now I also got that feeling but I did not dare that express

that....because of this " Khabardaar Kishore ko kucch bola to "

attitude of the group and I really appreciate Munish's courage.

While we are indebted to Kishore's selfless, mature, balanced

moderation let us not promote

sycophancy.................................. ........................

......True freedom of speech is entertained here and thats what makes

it so invaluable. Now every now and then he has to communicate

directly with a member like he did with you. Thanks for clarifying

Ashok Bhaskar>>

Dear Ashok,

Heavy misunderstandings me lord!!!.......

Anyway,lets clarify all your misconceptions one by one.

First of all its not " khabardaar Kishore ko kucch bola

to " kind of attitude or its not even that one can't question why

something is the certain way........but its about questioning

without any biases........All that i'm for is the " right

thing " ........and if you remember,while we were discussing FMG

issue,the whole group was after you...... asking you to

apologise.......probably i was the only one opposing that.......'coz

asking for apology was not something right just for having a

different opinion......so i voiced my opinion in favor of what was

the right thing .....like Heinz Kerry says, " true patriots are

those who speak truth to the power of their

country " .......)))).....Just kidding!!!

And secondly,most of the time its not the question

itself thats a problem........rather its the way a question is

raised .....that speaks more than the question itself.Like in

Munish's case it wasn't why he questioned Kishore about the

policies of this group regarding baingan bhurta's

resignation.......rather it was his framing of question and using

words like " soft corner " ,implying GSGs ban on " frivolous grounds "

which were kind of aggravating.However i definitely admire the

honesty and courage of you two.But at the sametime i would also like

to tell you that freedom of speech doesn't mean blurting out

anything that comes to our mind.......rather its a privilege,to be

excercised with caution and responsibility.......and we all are

mature enough to understand that responsibility before opening our

......(?big)mouths.

Now,regarding sycophancy,.....in my opinion,all the genuine

praises for someone's work of labor,which are based on facts and

have no ulterior motives...........don't qualify to be labelled as

sycophancy......thats my opinion,but again you are definitely

entitled to yours......!!

I hope thats clear enough.

Neeti'86