Glyconutrient nonscience

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Mannatech has on their website quotes from Dr. Gunter Blobel, the Nobel

Prize winner in chemistry. They use him to promote their products. Reading

what they say makes it seem like he has studied their products and his work

" proves " the products work.

I contacted him to ask him about this.

He said. " " .statements about me in their promotional literature are utter

nonsense and misleading. " " My work on protein carriers has nothing to do

with their products, and what they are saying about their products having

protein chaperones is not supported by my work. " Dr. Gunter Blobel,

Rockefeller University, Syracuse, New York. 1999 Nobel Prize Winner in

Physiology and Medicine April 29, 2001

Read more at:

http://www.supernutritionusa.com/food.grwn2001.pdf (statement above on page

13.)

What the company claims are basically in the same family of claims of

" whole-food-type " vitamins also called " food-grown-type " vitamins, which I

cover in two articles at http://www.medibolics.com/FoodgrowntypeCoQ10.htm

and http://www.michaelmooney.net/nutrientabsorption.htm

Claims of magical mystery cures in nutrition are usually worth pulling out

of hats, but whatever else they are worth, I don't know.

Mooney

www.michaelmooney.net

www.medibolics.com

www.powerusa.org

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Message: 5

Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 16:09:13 -0000

Subject: Glyconutrients/ Clinical Study - Any Experience?

Does anyone have any experience with the field of glyconutrients?

Working with Mannatech to create a clinical trial study around them...they

are willing to provide the product for the study along with clinical trial

protocols.

I am not affiliated with Mannatech as an Associate or Distributor, just

exploring possibiulity here for the HIV Community. Working with the

possibility of a local, State run TB hospital to work on a study of the TB

patient population (50 bed) which I have been told is between 70-80% HIV

compromised.

I am attending the Ft Lauderdale ATAC dinner/reception and can bring the

information I have to date should anyone be interested/have ideas/thoughts

in the matter of creating such a study. It is a beginning and I am all about

integrative medicine and nutrition and fitness alternatives that support a

person's body, health and overall immune system stability.

Your thoughts, expoerience, ideas are welcome. I list three basic

'informational sites' below that give you some background information on the

glyconutrient venue. Thanks:

glycoscience.org

glycoinformation.com

nobelsugars.com

Books related to this field include:

Miracle Sugars, by Rita Elkins, M.H.

Science or Miracle? The Glyconutritional Discovery, by V.

Dubouch, Ph D.

Sugars That Heal, The New healing Science of Glyconutrients, by Emil I.

Mondoa, MD and Mindy Kitei

Namaste,

D. Kallmayer

Unaffiliated PWA

Unaffiliated PWA

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Message: 6

Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 09:22:16 -0700 (PDT)

Subject: Re: Hello

HI Chuck,

I too, was approved the first time, in 1993. Process was simple. The worst

part for me was going to the Federal Building and waiting half the day to

see someone. I was sooo tired and frail back then. I called yesterday, and

was told I can now apply on the phone if I need to. I'd love to get back

onto SSD (I will qualify for SSD for sure, based on active KS, severe

anemia, waisting, chronic sinusitus, and enlarged organs. I have 12

specialists that have documented everything, even when I call to complain

about the way I feel, they document all that too) but am so scared of the

rat race of trying to get my meds each month like I had to back then. Once

back then I had to go one week without meds due to screw up with Medically

Needy program. I made too much for Medicaid, but qualified for Medically

Needy program (and you can have a bit more assets on Medically Needy. Used

to be $7500 for Medically Needy, but only $2000 for regular Medicaid.)

I do plan on applying for prescription coverage on my Medicare that I kept

from the 90s. Costs me a fortune though for Part B, but has paid for itself

time and time again. I guess between Medicare, White, and Medically

Needy maybe the meds will flow better. Looking forward to getting my

information on Medicare Prescription Coverage this fall.

Yes, there's some days I can work 8 hours, and there are many days that I

can't get out of bed. I think that just using these meds can make you tired

too.

I haven't worked but 3 weeks in 05, and it's getting hard to find things to

do. I stay inside alot, because in Fla the heat index in summer can be 105

to 115 degrees.

Anyway, that's my thoughts on this. I need to decide what to do about SSD

SOON before my Disney benefits run out, and after 12 months I will be

terminated anyway for being out on MLOA past that time frame. Its now 7

months.

The SSD specialist I talked to yesterday told me to go ahead and apply now

though, and my case worker at LTD through Disney did as well.

Averageguykc@... wrote:

hey guys just thought I'd share my two cents. I am one person who was

approved the first time. Granted this was back in like 1995 when they

thought I'd be dead in a year and my T-cells were down to 6, however I

really hadn't had clear true problems with opportuistic infections. so what

my doctor wrote was very important and I think made the difference. I was

also very clear each and every time to point out how weak I was, how I

couldn't do things for myself, how I had diarreah, most of which was true.

But you have to picture your worst day and sorta pretend that every day is

like that. I remember feeling bad about myself and having to focus on the

negative side of everything.........However I think that disabilty gave the

one chance that allowed me to get better, I could rest when I wanted, I

could do things when I felt like it, I wasn't using up all my energy trying

to meet the demands of a job. Disablity needs to also be looked at like

retirement, some people thrive when

they retire some people don't. You need to remember that you have to fill

your days with things to do, obviously to your ability but even if it is

having people come visit, or going out and doing things like a movie.

Keeping active is very important, keeping it to yourself is too. And it's

not lieing if they ask you a question like how much money do you have in

your account if you wait till after you pay your bills and then say $3,

rather than worrying about having the money on the day you fill out the

paperwork but not in a week, pay the bills early. I know I'm sorta off

topic now but remember learn to work a system. If you know the rules your

more able to help yourself.

Chuck in MO

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