Guest guest Posted December 28, 2004 Report Share Posted December 28, 2004 Hi Jan-- I spliced your original email with replies, because I couldn't figure out a way to write a reply that would hang together well. I understand why bananas might not be allowed, but I do not understand apples being forbidden, but oranges, peaches and nectarines allowed. I think it has to do with fruits that contain higher amounts of water. Melon and citrus fruits are primarily water. Plus, they're looking at the sugar content on the whole, ostensibly. I was eating a lot of organic bananas when my hypoglycemia was most out of control, with Gala apples as a close second, and they made my sugar levels cycle rapidly. I haven't had a hypoglycemic episode in the last three days. Usually, I have one or two episodes a day, which just knock me out. I wasn't even eating fruit every day, but I didn't realize the fruit was making it much worse. For myself, I avoid going on any diet that tells me I cannot eat certain foods, that some foods are not good for me (besides all of those great bakery items). I do not like very many foods to start out with. The list of what I can eat has gotten shorter every time I read a diet book or talk to a doctor about diet or allergies. My list of foods that I don't like is longer than the list of foods that I do like. I have a really flexible palate. One of my hobbies is reading cookbooks, and of course, trying out new recipes. When I am well, I love to entertain and feed my friends. So, dietary changes don't really throw me. The most prominent thing I had to quit was three years ago, and that was coffee. I used to drink a pot of joe every day. I started drinking black coffee when I was twelve. Yet, I was told by my doctor in 2001 that I had to quit all caffeine due to cysts that permeated my breasts, and the very next day I quit. Before the thyroid problem became all consuming, I used to have a small cup of coffee on special occasions, about once every four months, but it gives me panic type symptoms, so I've quit entirely. I keep a little bag of expensive decaf in the freezer, and I indulge in that about once every two or three months. The only thing that I'm not crazy about is fat, and this diet includes adding in small amounts of fat. People in my family tend to have stomach upsets if they eat fatty foods, so we never did that much. Your holiday sounds wonderful, Jan! My family and I planned an entire low glycemic meal that included broiled salmon and dill sauce, a salad with a parmesan/lemon/garlic dressing, roasted root vegetables, and a ginger-pumpkin mousse. Everyone pitched in and it turned out great-- the meal was much easier than a traditional turkey type thing, and I'm off turkey at the moment, as I think they use soy feed to plump them up. We borrowed a rotating aluminum Xmas tree from a friend, and spent a lovely hour or so decorating the house. We only exchanged small presents. My husband gave me a fantastic recording of Du Pre playing Elgar with the London Philharmonic, which he bought secondhand. It is just amazing. I hope everyone had a peaceful holiday. Best wishes-- Courtenay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2004 Report Share Posted December 28, 2004 Hi Jan-- I spliced your original email with replies, because I couldn't figure out a way to write a reply that would hang together well. I understand why bananas might not be allowed, but I do not understand apples being forbidden, but oranges, peaches and nectarines allowed. I think it has to do with fruits that contain higher amounts of water. Melon and citrus fruits are primarily water. Plus, they're looking at the sugar content on the whole, ostensibly. I was eating a lot of organic bananas when my hypoglycemia was most out of control, with Gala apples as a close second, and they made my sugar levels cycle rapidly. I haven't had a hypoglycemic episode in the last three days. Usually, I have one or two episodes a day, which just knock me out. I wasn't even eating fruit every day, but I didn't realize the fruit was making it much worse. For myself, I avoid going on any diet that tells me I cannot eat certain foods, that some foods are not good for me (besides all of those great bakery items). I do not like very many foods to start out with. The list of what I can eat has gotten shorter every time I read a diet book or talk to a doctor about diet or allergies. My list of foods that I don't like is longer than the list of foods that I do like. I have a really flexible palate. One of my hobbies is reading cookbooks, and of course, trying out new recipes. When I am well, I love to entertain and feed my friends. So, dietary changes don't really throw me. The most prominent thing I had to quit was three years ago, and that was coffee. I used to drink a pot of joe every day. I started drinking black coffee when I was twelve. Yet, I was told by my doctor in 2001 that I had to quit all caffeine due to cysts that permeated my breasts, and the very next day I quit. Before the thyroid problem became all consuming, I used to have a small cup of coffee on special occasions, about once every four months, but it gives me panic type symptoms, so I've quit entirely. I keep a little bag of expensive decaf in the freezer, and I indulge in that about once every two or three months. The only thing that I'm not crazy about is fat, and this diet includes adding in small amounts of fat. People in my family tend to have stomach upsets if they eat fatty foods, so we never did that much. Your holiday sounds wonderful, Jan! My family and I planned an entire low glycemic meal that included broiled salmon and dill sauce, a salad with a parmesan/lemon/garlic dressing, roasted root vegetables, and a ginger-pumpkin mousse. Everyone pitched in and it turned out great-- the meal was much easier than a traditional turkey type thing, and I'm off turkey at the moment, as I think they use soy feed to plump them up. We borrowed a rotating aluminum Xmas tree from a friend, and spent a lovely hour or so decorating the house. We only exchanged small presents. My husband gave me a fantastic recording of Du Pre playing Elgar with the London Philharmonic, which he bought secondhand. It is just amazing. I hope everyone had a peaceful holiday. Best wishes-- Courtenay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2004 Report Share Posted December 28, 2004 Dear -- Thanks for your concern. From my limited experience, orange juice, especially from concentrate, is very high in sugar. I haven't consumed bottled orange juice in at least three years. Even fresh orange juice is high in sugar because you are consuming often, not one, but two or more oranges. Fruit juice and dehydrated fruit is totally off limits for me right now. The Broda list is comprised of the fruits and vegetables with the highest amount of carbohydrates. Reducing, or eliminating carbohydrates is the dietary change has strongly encouraged me to use. I actually have NOT been eating fruit daily, as I am trying to avoid as much sugar as possible. This list goes from low carbohydrate to high carbohydrate: On five percent fruit list is: Avocado Honeydew Melon Muskmelon Strawberries Watermelon. The 10 percent list contains: Blackberries Grapefruit Oranges Peaches Tangerines The 15 and 20 percent list are pretty much " foods to avoid " -- so I haven't been consuming them. As per Dr. 's request, I've been drinking more low sodium vegetable juice, high amounts of low fat protein, and vegetables from the approved list, which in my world consists of salads lightly touched with low sodium/low sugar rice vinegar (less than a teaspoon) and the tiniest amount of olive oil (unless I make my own dressing). I also have been eating lots of roasted vegetables and steamed vegetables, which were part of my daily intake anyway. Reading Dr. Atkin's first book (from the 1970s) is also on my " to do " list, so hopefully this will help me refine my approach. (I'd be reading it by now, but my 91 year old grandmother is staying with me for the holidays, and she is a full-time job.) I haven't noticed any citrus type allergies, but I do think I am allergic to wheat. I haven't consumed anything with wheat in over two weeks, so I haven't tested this theory. Best wishes-- Courtenay. The orange is VERY high in sugar, much higher than an apple. It is usually one of the no-nos, and is often used to raise blood sugar on a diabetic who is having a low blood sugar attack, especially the juice of the orange. It raises blood sugar very rapidly! For a hypoglycemic, this would raise it suddenly, and, depending on that individual, cause a rapid rise in insulin, then drop to the bottom, as in bottomed out. I don't understand why this would be a food choice for a hypoglycemic, I've never heard of such. I don't know about the melons and such, but the orange I'm sure of. At my job, we use orange juice (if we don't have a handy immediate supply of glucagon available) and sugar packets to help bring someone around whose blood sugar has dropped suddenly into the 30s to 40s. This is very strange to me. What is the principle behind the choice of the orange for you? It is also one of the better known citrus allergens, if you have developed a citrus fruit allergy, as many allergic people do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2004 Report Share Posted December 28, 2004 Dear -- Thanks for your concern. From my limited experience, orange juice, especially from concentrate, is very high in sugar. I haven't consumed bottled orange juice in at least three years. Even fresh orange juice is high in sugar because you are consuming often, not one, but two or more oranges. Fruit juice and dehydrated fruit is totally off limits for me right now. The Broda list is comprised of the fruits and vegetables with the highest amount of carbohydrates. Reducing, or eliminating carbohydrates is the dietary change has strongly encouraged me to use. I actually have NOT been eating fruit daily, as I am trying to avoid as much sugar as possible. This list goes from low carbohydrate to high carbohydrate: On five percent fruit list is: Avocado Honeydew Melon Muskmelon Strawberries Watermelon. The 10 percent list contains: Blackberries Grapefruit Oranges Peaches Tangerines The 15 and 20 percent list are pretty much " foods to avoid " -- so I haven't been consuming them. As per Dr. 's request, I've been drinking more low sodium vegetable juice, high amounts of low fat protein, and vegetables from the approved list, which in my world consists of salads lightly touched with low sodium/low sugar rice vinegar (less than a teaspoon) and the tiniest amount of olive oil (unless I make my own dressing). I also have been eating lots of roasted vegetables and steamed vegetables, which were part of my daily intake anyway. Reading Dr. Atkin's first book (from the 1970s) is also on my " to do " list, so hopefully this will help me refine my approach. (I'd be reading it by now, but my 91 year old grandmother is staying with me for the holidays, and she is a full-time job.) I haven't noticed any citrus type allergies, but I do think I am allergic to wheat. I haven't consumed anything with wheat in over two weeks, so I haven't tested this theory. Best wishes-- Courtenay. The orange is VERY high in sugar, much higher than an apple. It is usually one of the no-nos, and is often used to raise blood sugar on a diabetic who is having a low blood sugar attack, especially the juice of the orange. It raises blood sugar very rapidly! For a hypoglycemic, this would raise it suddenly, and, depending on that individual, cause a rapid rise in insulin, then drop to the bottom, as in bottomed out. I don't understand why this would be a food choice for a hypoglycemic, I've never heard of such. I don't know about the melons and such, but the orange I'm sure of. At my job, we use orange juice (if we don't have a handy immediate supply of glucagon available) and sugar packets to help bring someone around whose blood sugar has dropped suddenly into the 30s to 40s. This is very strange to me. What is the principle behind the choice of the orange for you? It is also one of the better known citrus allergens, if you have developed a citrus fruit allergy, as many allergic people do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2004 Report Share Posted December 29, 2004 The only thing I really loved was a sequence where they showed the actress depicting Du Pre playing the cello, and every few seconds her dress changes color, as if she's doing performance after performance. The director was trying to show the shift of time, and how grueling her schedule actually was. In the movie world, it got wonderful reviews because it was an interesting cinematic experience. In the music world, it was almost universally ignored, as many people thought the story was false. Her playing is the thing that will endure. Courtenay. I never saw the movie because I did not want to see it. The bits and pieces I saw in the promos were way off from what I knew about her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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