Re: South Texas Newbie Intro

[Guest guest]

Hello Eva and Welcome!!

First wanting to know what you were diagnosed with as the cause of your hypothyroid. Hashimoto's Disease, antibodies? Give us a little more history on what all has happened to you. Has a doctor ever run antibodies tests on you for thyroid? What were your most recent lab values for thyroid, also ferritin, and any other pertinent lab values, like the red blood cell counts? Have you ever had a B12 or Folic Acid test run? I know it sounds like a lot of questions, but is all relevant to you.

South Texas Newbie Intro

South of San ...I am a 48 year old, Hispanic, approx. 35 lbs overweight, was diagnosed with hypothyroidism 1995, have taken Synthroid and Armour (various dosages)...feel great for awhile then feel bad...go back to doctor and they say 'your TSH is great, keep taking Synthroid/Armour'...then I go back months later, still feeling bad (having tired of exercising and dieting and no weight loss), they take blood tests...thyroid is low again, adjust meds or doctors just say 'maybe you are just supposed to be at this weight/feel apathetic, brain fog...maybe you should just accept it...maybe you need to see a therapist'.

Jul 20, 2003 I stopped taking 90 mcg of Armour, July 25, 2003 started taking T3 ('s Syndrome) protocol...as of Aug 6 90 mcg of T3. I am feeling a little better but then started to feel hopeless...maybe this isn't going to work either...I am supposed to feel this way...maybe I am supposed to crave unfavorable carbs to comfort me into more brain fog!

I got onto another yahoo group thinking they were also taking 's T3 protocol and I don't think they were on my same wave length. I searched your group to see if anyone had mentioned 's Syndrome and I could not locate. Am I in the wrong group again?!

I will see the physician ('s Syndrome, certified physician) next week...

-eva-

[Guest guest]

,

Is there a "master list" of the type of lab tests for those of us with Hashi's should have done regularly? ie; TSH, Ferritin, ???? others

I've been following various threads about lab testing results and it seems like that would be a helpful tool.

Jann

South Texas Newbie Intro

South of San ...I am a 48 year old, Hispanic, approx. 35 lbs overweight, was diagnosed with hypothyroidism 1995, have taken Synthroid and Armour (various dosages)...feel great for awhile then feel bad...go back to doctor and they say 'your TSH is great, keep taking Synthroid/Armour'...then I go back months later, still feeling bad (having tired of exercising and dieting and no weight loss), they take blood tests...thyroid is low again, adjust meds or doctors just say 'maybe you are just supposed to be at this weight/feel apathetic, brain fog...maybe you should just accept it...maybe you need to see a therapist'.

Jul 20, 2003 I stopped taking 90 mcg of Armour, July 25, 2003 started taking T3 ('s Syndrome) protocol...as of Aug 6 90 mcg of T3. I am feeling a little better but then started to feel hopeless...maybe this isn't going to work either...I am supposed to feel this way...maybe I am supposed to crave unfavorable carbs to comfort me into more brain fog!

I got onto another yahoo group thinking they were also taking 's T3 protocol and I don't think they were on my same wave length. I searched your group to see if anyone had mentioned 's Syndrome and I could not locate. Am I in the wrong group again?!

I will see the physician ('s Syndrome, certified physician) next week...

-eva-

[Guest guest]

,

Is there a "master list" of the type of lab tests for those of us with Hashi's should have done regularly? ie; TSH, Ferritin, ???? others

I've been following various threads about lab testing results and it seems like that would be a helpful tool.

Jann

South Texas Newbie Intro

South of San ...I am a 48 year old, Hispanic, approx. 35 lbs overweight, was diagnosed with hypothyroidism 1995, have taken Synthroid and Armour (various dosages)...feel great for awhile then feel bad...go back to doctor and they say 'your TSH is great, keep taking Synthroid/Armour'...then I go back months later, still feeling bad (having tired of exercising and dieting and no weight loss), they take blood tests...thyroid is low again, adjust meds or doctors just say 'maybe you are just supposed to be at this weight/feel apathetic, brain fog...maybe you should just accept it...maybe you need to see a therapist'.

Jul 20, 2003 I stopped taking 90 mcg of Armour, July 25, 2003 started taking T3 ('s Syndrome) protocol...as of Aug 6 90 mcg of T3. I am feeling a little better but then started to feel hopeless...maybe this isn't going to work either...I am supposed to feel this way...maybe I am supposed to crave unfavorable carbs to comfort me into more brain fog!

I got onto another yahoo group thinking they were also taking 's T3 protocol and I don't think they were on my same wave length. I searched your group to see if anyone had mentioned 's Syndrome and I could not locate. Am I in the wrong group again?!

I will see the physician ('s Syndrome, certified physician) next week...

-eva-

[Guest guest]

Just came back low on TSH lab reports..I've always been a chubby kid...had tonsils out when I was 8 (heard that could have been a contributing factor). Do not think anyone has run antibodies tests...ferritin, the red blood cell counts, a B12 or Folic Acid test...the 's certified M.D. that I am seeing now did saliva and urinalysis tests.

lab work at new family practice MD (stopped seeing this doctor...now seeing 's certified MD), July 16... on Armour 1.5 gr ..Total Cholestrol 206, Triglycerides 101, HDL Cholestrol 64, LDL Cholestrol Calc 102, TSH .073

Thanks for the welcome...feel more at ease! wrote:

Hello Eva and Welcome!!

First wanting to know what you were diagnosed with as the cause of your hypothyroid. Hashimoto's Disease, antibodies? Give us a little more history on what all has happened to you. Has a doctor ever run antibodies tests on you for thyroid? What were your most recent lab values for thyroid, also ferritin, and any other pertinent lab values, like the red blood cell counts? Have you ever had a B12 or Folic Acid test run? I know it sounds like a lot of questions, but is all relevant to you.

South Texas Newbie Intro

South of San ...I am a 48 year old, Hispanic, approx. 35 lbs overweight, was diagnosed with hypothyroidism 1995, have taken Synthroid and Armour (various dosages)...feel great for awhile then feel bad...go back to doctor and they say 'your TSH is great, keep taking Synthroid/Armour'...then I go back months later, still feeling bad (having tired of exercising and dieting and no weight loss), they take blood tests...thyroid is low again, adjust meds or doctors just say 'maybe you are just supposed to be at this weight/feel apathetic, brain fog...maybe you should just accept it...maybe you need to see a therapist'.

Jul 20, 2003 I stopped taking 90 mcg of Armour, July 25, 2003 started taking T3 ('s Syndrome) protocol...as of Aug 6 90 mcg of T3. I am feeling a little better but then started to feel hopeless...maybe this isn't going to work either...I am supposed to feel this way...maybe I am supposed to crave unfavorable carbs to comfort me into more brain fog!

I got onto another yahoo group thinking they were also taking 's T3 protocol and I don't think they were on my same wave length. I searched your group to see if anyone had mentioned 's Syndrome and I could not locate. Am I in the wrong group again?!

I will see the physician ('s Syndrome, certified physician) next week...

-eva-

[Guest guest]

Just came back low on TSH lab reports..I've always been a chubby kid...had tonsils out when I was 8 (heard that could have been a contributing factor). Do not think anyone has run antibodies tests...ferritin, the red blood cell counts, a B12 or Folic Acid test...the 's certified M.D. that I am seeing now did saliva and urinalysis tests.

lab work at new family practice MD (stopped seeing this doctor...now seeing 's certified MD), July 16... on Armour 1.5 gr ..Total Cholestrol 206, Triglycerides 101, HDL Cholestrol 64, LDL Cholestrol Calc 102, TSH .073

Thanks for the welcome...feel more at ease! wrote:

Hello Eva and Welcome!!

First wanting to know what you were diagnosed with as the cause of your hypothyroid. Hashimoto's Disease, antibodies? Give us a little more history on what all has happened to you. Has a doctor ever run antibodies tests on you for thyroid? What were your most recent lab values for thyroid, also ferritin, and any other pertinent lab values, like the red blood cell counts? Have you ever had a B12 or Folic Acid test run? I know it sounds like a lot of questions, but is all relevant to you.

South Texas Newbie Intro

South of San ...I am a 48 year old, Hispanic, approx. 35 lbs overweight, was diagnosed with hypothyroidism 1995, have taken Synthroid and Armour (various dosages)...feel great for awhile then feel bad...go back to doctor and they say 'your TSH is great, keep taking Synthroid/Armour'...then I go back months later, still feeling bad (having tired of exercising and dieting and no weight loss), they take blood tests...thyroid is low again, adjust meds or doctors just say 'maybe you are just supposed to be at this weight/feel apathetic, brain fog...maybe you should just accept it...maybe you need to see a therapist'.

Jul 20, 2003 I stopped taking 90 mcg of Armour, July 25, 2003 started taking T3 ('s Syndrome) protocol...as of Aug 6 90 mcg of T3. I am feeling a little better but then started to feel hopeless...maybe this isn't going to work either...I am supposed to feel this way...maybe I am supposed to crave unfavorable carbs to comfort me into more brain fog!

I got onto another yahoo group thinking they were also taking 's T3 protocol and I don't think they were on my same wave length. I searched your group to see if anyone had mentioned 's Syndrome and I could not locate. Am I in the wrong group again?!

I will see the physician ('s Syndrome, certified physician) next week...

-eva-

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the welcome. I have been on T3 since July 25...not major difference but noticed today that my nails are stronger..brain fog lifted a little today too.

Yes, I plan to ask for Free T3/T4 tests to be done along with others next doc's visit, Tuesday, Aug 17.

"It sounds like your past docs were trying to treat you, using only the TSH test as an indicator. ... Adjusting meds solely by TSH is a blueprint for undermedication. AMEN...I kept trying to tell each doctor that I saw...they just patted my hand as they headed to their next patient.

" to certain environmental pollutants who have very poor conversion of T3 to T4 as a result of that exposure' can't think of anything...had worked at an aircraft repair center but I was either a secretary or other office support.

My temperature goes up for a slight movement but then goes back to 96.2/97.4 I am trying to feel better, head is wanting to clear...I had been taking my temperature 3 times a day but when it was not going up, rarely a change I stopped taking it at all. I started back up again. Today I turned off the a/c, just had fans on, was sweating, was able to make it go up to 98.6 but I drank some cold water and it started to go down again. -e-

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the welcome. I have been on T3 since July 25...not major difference but noticed today that my nails are stronger..brain fog lifted a little today too.

Yes, I plan to ask for Free T3/T4 tests to be done along with others next doc's visit, Tuesday, Aug 17.

"It sounds like your past docs were trying to treat you, using only the TSH test as an indicator. ... Adjusting meds solely by TSH is a blueprint for undermedication. AMEN...I kept trying to tell each doctor that I saw...they just patted my hand as they headed to their next patient.

" to certain environmental pollutants who have very poor conversion of T3 to T4 as a result of that exposure' can't think of anything...had worked at an aircraft repair center but I was either a secretary or other office support.

My temperature goes up for a slight movement but then goes back to 96.2/97.4 I am trying to feel better, head is wanting to clear...I had been taking my temperature 3 times a day but when it was not going up, rarely a change I stopped taking it at all. I started back up again. Today I turned off the a/c, just had fans on, was sweating, was able to make it go up to 98.6 but I drank some cold water and it started to go down again. -e-

[Guest guest]

IMHO, the tonsils coming out at 8 and weight is probably highly individual and has more to do with genetics then anything else. Mine were also out at 8 and I was an extremely thin child and that lasted until my mid-30's when thyroid problems reared it's ugly head. And by extremely thin - I did not get over 100 lbs. until I had thyroid problems. I weighed 85 when I graduated HS. Approx. 88 at College and when I was 29 at the end of my pregancy with my daughter I barely got to 110. Within weeks of having her, I was back to 92.

So it is highly individual, as you see with me - weight was the opposite problem. And I ate - alot. Myself, my eldest sister and my younger sister all take after my mother's mother side of the family - thin petite women, my mother and sister just older then me take after her father's side of the family - very curvey Marilyn Monroe type women - genetics in play. My sisters are still thin (size 2's, even after kids - grandma was always a size 2 up to her 90's then she wore a 6 - she was very upset about that! Mom's still a Marilyn Monroe figure - same with my sister (who'd rather be thin - but oh well genetics).

I'm the only one who's body type is now different - but I have Central Hypothyroidism, a Pituitary tumor and Hashimoto's. While I am not fat, I have gained weight. I am no longer skinny skinny (I did need to gain some). But I could stand to lose 10-15 pounds. But I don't really complain as with what all I do have it could be very very worse. Many people with the same things I have, have gained 50-100 lbs. I gained some I needed to plus just a few extra. So I am thankful overall - that I had the genetics I did. It plays a bigger part then we give credit for in how our bodies work at the cellular level and process when things go haywire. It is why one will gain 10-20 the medical standard you always here about and some will gain 100. Why one medication works for one and not another. Doctors don't ever consider this - but I have given it alot of thought.

Just my 2 cents.

Janie Re: South Texas Newbie Intro

Just came back low on TSH lab reports..I've always been a chubby kid...had tonsils out when I was 8 (heard that could have been a contributing factor). Do not think anyone has run antibodies tests...ferritin, the red blood cell counts, a B12 or Folic Acid test...the 's certified M.D. that I am seeing now did saliva and urinalysis tests.

lab work at new family practice MD (stopped seeing this doctor...now seeing 's certified MD), July 16... on Armour 1.5 gr ..Total Cholestrol 206, Triglycerides 101, HDL Cholestrol 64, LDL Cholestrol Calc 102, TSH .073

Thanks for the welcome...feel more at ease! wrote:

Hello Eva and Welcome!!

First wanting to know what you were diagnosed with as the cause of your hypothyroid. Hashimoto's Disease, antibodies? Give us a little more history on what all has happened to you. Has a doctor ever run antibodies tests on you for thyroid? What were your most recent lab values for thyroid, also ferritin, and any other pertinent lab values, like the red blood cell counts? Have you ever had a B12 or Folic Acid test run? I know it sounds like a lot of questions, but is all relevant to you.

South Texas Newbie Intro

South of San ...I am a 48 year old, Hispanic, approx. 35 lbs overweight, was diagnosed with hypothyroidism 1995, have taken Synthroid and Armour (various dosages)...feel great for awhile then feel bad...go back to doctor and they say 'your TSH is great, keep taking Synthroid/Armour'...then I go back months later, still feeling bad (having tired of exercising and dieting and no weight loss), they take blood tests...thyroid is low again, adjust meds or doctors just say 'maybe you are just supposed to be at this weight/feel apathetic, brain fog...maybe you should just accept it...maybe you need to see a therapist'.

Jul 20, 2003 I stopped taking 90 mcg of Armour, July 25, 2003 started taking T3 ('s Syndrome) protocol...as of Aug 6 90 mcg of T3. I am feeling a little better but then started to feel hopeless...maybe this isn't going to work either...I am supposed to feel this way...maybe I am supposed to crave unfavorable carbs to comfort me into more brain fog!

I got onto another yahoo group thinking they were also taking 's T3 protocol and I don't think they were on my same wave length. I searched your group to see if anyone had mentioned 's Syndrome and I could not locate. Am I in the wrong group again?!

I will see the physician ('s Syndrome, certified physician) next week...

-eva-

[Guest guest]

IMHO, the tonsils coming out at 8 and weight is probably highly individual and has more to do with genetics then anything else. Mine were also out at 8 and I was an extremely thin child and that lasted until my mid-30's when thyroid problems reared it's ugly head. And by extremely thin - I did not get over 100 lbs. until I had thyroid problems. I weighed 85 when I graduated HS. Approx. 88 at College and when I was 29 at the end of my pregancy with my daughter I barely got to 110. Within weeks of having her, I was back to 92.

So it is highly individual, as you see with me - weight was the opposite problem. And I ate - alot. Myself, my eldest sister and my younger sister all take after my mother's mother side of the family - thin petite women, my mother and sister just older then me take after her father's side of the family - very curvey Marilyn Monroe type women - genetics in play. My sisters are still thin (size 2's, even after kids - grandma was always a size 2 up to her 90's then she wore a 6 - she was very upset about that! Mom's still a Marilyn Monroe figure - same with my sister (who'd rather be thin - but oh well genetics).

I'm the only one who's body type is now different - but I have Central Hypothyroidism, a Pituitary tumor and Hashimoto's. While I am not fat, I have gained weight. I am no longer skinny skinny (I did need to gain some). But I could stand to lose 10-15 pounds. But I don't really complain as with what all I do have it could be very very worse. Many people with the same things I have, have gained 50-100 lbs. I gained some I needed to plus just a few extra. So I am thankful overall - that I had the genetics I did. It plays a bigger part then we give credit for in how our bodies work at the cellular level and process when things go haywire. It is why one will gain 10-20 the medical standard you always here about and some will gain 100. Why one medication works for one and not another. Doctors don't ever consider this - but I have given it alot of thought.

Just my 2 cents.

Janie Re: South Texas Newbie Intro

Just came back low on TSH lab reports..I've always been a chubby kid...had tonsils out when I was 8 (heard that could have been a contributing factor). Do not think anyone has run antibodies tests...ferritin, the red blood cell counts, a B12 or Folic Acid test...the 's certified M.D. that I am seeing now did saliva and urinalysis tests.

lab work at new family practice MD (stopped seeing this doctor...now seeing 's certified MD), July 16... on Armour 1.5 gr ..Total Cholestrol 206, Triglycerides 101, HDL Cholestrol 64, LDL Cholestrol Calc 102, TSH .073

Thanks for the welcome...feel more at ease! wrote:

Hello Eva and Welcome!!

First wanting to know what you were diagnosed with as the cause of your hypothyroid. Hashimoto's Disease, antibodies? Give us a little more history on what all has happened to you. Has a doctor ever run antibodies tests on you for thyroid? What were your most recent lab values for thyroid, also ferritin, and any other pertinent lab values, like the red blood cell counts? Have you ever had a B12 or Folic Acid test run? I know it sounds like a lot of questions, but is all relevant to you.

South Texas Newbie Intro

South of San ...I am a 48 year old, Hispanic, approx. 35 lbs overweight, was diagnosed with hypothyroidism 1995, have taken Synthroid and Armour (various dosages)...feel great for awhile then feel bad...go back to doctor and they say 'your TSH is great, keep taking Synthroid/Armour'...then I go back months later, still feeling bad (having tired of exercising and dieting and no weight loss), they take blood tests...thyroid is low again, adjust meds or doctors just say 'maybe you are just supposed to be at this weight/feel apathetic, brain fog...maybe you should just accept it...maybe you need to see a therapist'.

Jul 20, 2003 I stopped taking 90 mcg of Armour, July 25, 2003 started taking T3 ('s Syndrome) protocol...as of Aug 6 90 mcg of T3. I am feeling a little better but then started to feel hopeless...maybe this isn't going to work either...I am supposed to feel this way...maybe I am supposed to crave unfavorable carbs to comfort me into more brain fog!

I got onto another yahoo group thinking they were also taking 's T3 protocol and I don't think they were on my same wave length. I searched your group to see if anyone had mentioned 's Syndrome and I could not locate. Am I in the wrong group again?!

I will see the physician ('s Syndrome, certified physician) next week...

-eva-

[Guest guest]

Janie, is there any way I can switch parents with you?! Wish I had your genes...I have 'a short Wynona Judd' genes! -e-

[Guest guest]

Janie, is there any way I can switch parents with you?! Wish I had your genes...I have 'a short Wynona Judd' genes! -e-

[Guest guest]

Dear Janie--

I'm the same as you. Both my parents were ultra-thin

genetically, and petite. The problem was, that when I first

started complaining about symptoms ten years ago in my early 20s, no

doctor would even run a glucose test/T4-T3 test because I looked so

" healthy " . In all that time, my weight would swing

wildly from 90 to 110, sometimes within several weeks.

Like you, I gained the standard ten pounds but I gained it all in

less than four weeks. And my new doctor got on his soapbox

during his first visit about " how women want to be too thin, and

my nieces, blah-blah-blah.... "

And then I said, " But I've never weighed this much! My

clothes don't fit! "

I understand it could be worse; my godmother is morbidly obese

and they just removed her parithyroid (perithyroid?).

But, size is relative. I don't move as easily with this extra

weight.

Best wishes--

C.

IMHO, the tonsils coming out at 8 and

weight is probably highly individual and has more to do

with genetics then anything else. Mine were also out at 8

and I was an extremely thin child and that lasted until my mid-30's

when thyroid problems reared it's ugly head. And by extremely

thin - I did not get over 100 lbs. until I had thyroid problems.

I weighed 85 when I graduated HS. Approx. 88 at College and when

I was 29 at the end of my pregancy with my daughter I barely got to

110. Within weeks of having her, I was back to 92.

So it is highly individual, as you

see with me - weight was the opposite problem. And I ate -

alot. Myself, my eldest sister and my younger sister all take

after my mother's mother side of the family - thin petite women, my

mother and sister just older then me take after her father's side of

the family - very curvey Marilyn Monroe type women - genetics in

play. My sisters are still thin (size 2's, even after kids

- grandma was always a size 2 up to her 90's then she wore a 6 - she

was very upset about that! Mom's still a Marilyn Monroe figure -

same with my sister (who'd rather be thin - but oh well

genetics).

I'm the only one who's body type is

now different - but I have Central Hypothyroidism, a Pituitary

tumor and Hashimoto's. While I am not fat, I have gained

weight. I am no longer skinny skinny (I did need to gain some).

But I could stand to lose 10-15 pounds. But I don't really

complain as with what all I do have it could be very very worse.

Many people with the same things I have, have gained 50-100 lbs.

I gained some I needed to plus just a few extra. So I am

thankful overall - that I had the genetics I did. It plays a

bigger part then we give credit for in how our bodies work at the

cellular level and process when things go haywire. It is why one

will gain 10-20 the medical standard you always here about and some

will gain 100. Why one medication works for one and not

another. Doctors don't ever consider this - but I have given it

alot of thought.

Just my 2 cents.

Janie

Re: South Texas Newbie Intro

Just came back low on TSH lab

reports..I've always been a chubby kid...had tonsils out when I was 8

(heard that could have been a contributing factor). Do not think

anyone has run antibodies tests...ferritin, the red blood cell

counts, a B12 or Folic Acid test...the 's certified M.D.

that I am seeing now did saliva and urinalysis tests.

lab work at new family practice MD

(stopped seeing this doctor...now seeing 's certified MD), July

16... on Armour 1.5 gr ..Total Cholestrol 206, Triglycerides 101, HDL

Cholestrol 64, LDL Cholestrol Calc 102, TSH .073

Thanks for the welcome...feel more at

ease!

wrote:

Hello Eva and

Welcome!!

First wanting to know what

you were diagnosed with as the cause of your hypothyroid.

Hashimoto's Disease, antibodies? Give us a little more history

on what all has happened to you. Has a doctor ever run

antibodies tests on you for thyroid? What were your most recent

lab values for thyroid, also ferritin, and any other pertinent lab

values, like the red blood cell counts? Have you ever had a B12

or Folic Acid test run? I know it sounds like a lot of

questions, but is all relevant to you.

South Texas Newbie

Intro

South of San ...I am a 48 year old, Hispanic,

approx. 35 lbs overweight, was diagnosed with hypothyroidism 1995,

have taken Synthroid and Armour (various dosages)...feel great for

awhile then feel bad...go back to doctor and they say 'your TSH is

great, keep taking Synthroid/Armour'...then I go back months later,

still feeling bad (having tired of exercising and dieting and no

weight loss), they take blood tests...thyroid is low again,

adjust meds or doctors just say 'maybe you are just supposed to be at

this weight/feel apathetic, brain fog...maybe you should just accept

it...maybe you need to see a therapist'.

Jul 20, 2003 I stopped taking 90 mcg of Armour, July 25,

2003 started taking T3 ('s Syndrome) protocol...as of Aug 6 90

mcg of T3. I am feeling a little better but then started to

feel hopeless...maybe this isn't going to work either...I am

supposed to feel this way...maybe I am supposed to crave unfavorable

carbs to comfort me into more brain fog!

I got onto another yahoo group thinking they were also

taking 's T3 protocol and I don't think they were on my same

wave length. I searched your group to see if anyone had

mentioned 's Syndrome and I could not locate. Am I in the

wrong group again?!

I will see the physician ('s Syndrome, certified

physician) next week...

-eva-

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[Guest guest]

Dear Janie--

I'm the same as you. Both my parents were ultra-thin

genetically, and petite. The problem was, that when I first

started complaining about symptoms ten years ago in my early 20s, no

doctor would even run a glucose test/T4-T3 test because I looked so

" healthy " . In all that time, my weight would swing

wildly from 90 to 110, sometimes within several weeks.

Like you, I gained the standard ten pounds but I gained it all in

less than four weeks. And my new doctor got on his soapbox

during his first visit about " how women want to be too thin, and

my nieces, blah-blah-blah.... "

And then I said, " But I've never weighed this much! My

clothes don't fit! "

I understand it could be worse; my godmother is morbidly obese

and they just removed her parithyroid (perithyroid?).

But, size is relative. I don't move as easily with this extra

weight.

Best wishes--

C.

IMHO, the tonsils coming out at 8 and

weight is probably highly individual and has more to do

with genetics then anything else. Mine were also out at 8

and I was an extremely thin child and that lasted until my mid-30's

when thyroid problems reared it's ugly head. And by extremely

thin - I did not get over 100 lbs. until I had thyroid problems.

I weighed 85 when I graduated HS. Approx. 88 at College and when

I was 29 at the end of my pregancy with my daughter I barely got to

110. Within weeks of having her, I was back to 92.

So it is highly individual, as you

see with me - weight was the opposite problem. And I ate -

alot. Myself, my eldest sister and my younger sister all take

after my mother's mother side of the family - thin petite women, my

mother and sister just older then me take after her father's side of

the family - very curvey Marilyn Monroe type women - genetics in

play. My sisters are still thin (size 2's, even after kids

- grandma was always a size 2 up to her 90's then she wore a 6 - she

was very upset about that! Mom's still a Marilyn Monroe figure -

same with my sister (who'd rather be thin - but oh well

genetics).

I'm the only one who's body type is

now different - but I have Central Hypothyroidism, a Pituitary

tumor and Hashimoto's. While I am not fat, I have gained

weight. I am no longer skinny skinny (I did need to gain some).

But I could stand to lose 10-15 pounds. But I don't really

complain as with what all I do have it could be very very worse.

Many people with the same things I have, have gained 50-100 lbs.

I gained some I needed to plus just a few extra. So I am

thankful overall - that I had the genetics I did. It plays a

bigger part then we give credit for in how our bodies work at the

cellular level and process when things go haywire. It is why one

will gain 10-20 the medical standard you always here about and some

will gain 100. Why one medication works for one and not

another. Doctors don't ever consider this - but I have given it

alot of thought.

Just my 2 cents.

Janie

Re: South Texas Newbie Intro

Just came back low on TSH lab

reports..I've always been a chubby kid...had tonsils out when I was 8

(heard that could have been a contributing factor). Do not think

anyone has run antibodies tests...ferritin, the red blood cell

counts, a B12 or Folic Acid test...the 's certified M.D.

that I am seeing now did saliva and urinalysis tests.

lab work at new family practice MD

(stopped seeing this doctor...now seeing 's certified MD), July

16... on Armour 1.5 gr ..Total Cholestrol 206, Triglycerides 101, HDL

Cholestrol 64, LDL Cholestrol Calc 102, TSH .073

Thanks for the welcome...feel more at

ease!

wrote:

Hello Eva and

Welcome!!

First wanting to know what

you were diagnosed with as the cause of your hypothyroid.

Hashimoto's Disease, antibodies? Give us a little more history

on what all has happened to you. Has a doctor ever run

antibodies tests on you for thyroid? What were your most recent

lab values for thyroid, also ferritin, and any other pertinent lab

values, like the red blood cell counts? Have you ever had a B12

or Folic Acid test run? I know it sounds like a lot of

questions, but is all relevant to you.

South Texas Newbie

Intro

South of San ...I am a 48 year old, Hispanic,

approx. 35 lbs overweight, was diagnosed with hypothyroidism 1995,

have taken Synthroid and Armour (various dosages)...feel great for

awhile then feel bad...go back to doctor and they say 'your TSH is

great, keep taking Synthroid/Armour'...then I go back months later,

still feeling bad (having tired of exercising and dieting and no

weight loss), they take blood tests...thyroid is low again,

adjust meds or doctors just say 'maybe you are just supposed to be at

this weight/feel apathetic, brain fog...maybe you should just accept

it...maybe you need to see a therapist'.

Jul 20, 2003 I stopped taking 90 mcg of Armour, July 25,

2003 started taking T3 ('s Syndrome) protocol...as of Aug 6 90

mcg of T3. I am feeling a little better but then started to

feel hopeless...maybe this isn't going to work either...I am

supposed to feel this way...maybe I am supposed to crave unfavorable

carbs to comfort me into more brain fog!

I got onto another yahoo group thinking they were also

taking 's T3 protocol and I don't think they were on my same

wave length. I searched your group to see if anyone had

mentioned 's Syndrome and I could not locate. Am I in the

wrong group again?!

I will see the physician ('s Syndrome, certified

physician) next week...

-eva-

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[Guest guest]

,

You said that your godmother had her parathyroid removed?

I am interested in getting more information on the parathyroid. Do

you know why her's was removed? What symptoms did she

have?

Still looking for information on the parathyroid. I was certain

someone in the group would know something!

LYNN

t 11:40 AM 8/11/2004 -0500, you wrote:

Dear Janie--

I'm the same as you. Both my parents were ultra-thin genetically,

and petite. The problem was, that when I first started complaining

about symptoms ten years ago in my early 20s, no doctor would even run a

glucose test/T4-T3 test because I looked so " healthy " . In

all that time, my weight would swing wildly from 90 to 110, sometimes

within several weeks.

Like you, I gained the standard ten pounds but I gained it all in less

than four weeks. And my new doctor got on his soapbox during his

first visit about " how women want to be too thin, and my nieces,

blah-blah-blah.... "

And then I said, " But I've never weighed this much! My clothes

don't fit! "

I understand it could be worse; my godmother is morbidly obese and they

just removed her parithyroid (perithyroid?). But, size

is relative. I don't move as easily with this extra

weight.

Best wishes--

C.

[Guest guest]

,

You said that your godmother had her parathyroid removed?

I am interested in getting more information on the parathyroid. Do

you know why her's was removed? What symptoms did she

have?

Still looking for information on the parathyroid. I was certain

someone in the group would know something!

LYNN

t 11:40 AM 8/11/2004 -0500, you wrote:

Dear Janie--

I'm the same as you. Both my parents were ultra-thin genetically,

and petite. The problem was, that when I first started complaining

about symptoms ten years ago in my early 20s, no doctor would even run a

glucose test/T4-T3 test because I looked so " healthy " . In

all that time, my weight would swing wildly from 90 to 110, sometimes

within several weeks.

Like you, I gained the standard ten pounds but I gained it all in less

than four weeks. And my new doctor got on his soapbox during his

first visit about " how women want to be too thin, and my nieces,

blah-blah-blah.... "

And then I said, " But I've never weighed this much! My clothes

don't fit! "

I understand it could be worse; my godmother is morbidly obese and they

just removed her parithyroid (perithyroid?). But, size

is relative. I don't move as easily with this extra

weight.

Best wishes--

C.

[Guest guest]

I heard the same from docs on the weight - add to that "it's part of getting older" "you needed to weigh more". What really got them looking in the first place was my inability to conceive a second child - if it wasn't for my infertility problems and their finding the pituitary problems which lead to them finding the hypothyroidism. I'd probably still be "fighting" with them.

I hear you about not moving right - I don't feel as if I do either. And clothes not fitting - let's not go there - I've learned to shut up - other people think I look fine - they just don't understand - to me I'm not fine.

Janie Re: South Texas Newbie Intro

Dear Janie--

I'm the same as you. Both my parents were ultra-thin genetically, and petite. The problem was, that when I first started complaining about symptoms ten years ago in my early 20s, no doctor would even run a glucose test/T4-T3 test because I looked so "healthy". In all that time, my weight would swing wildly from 90 to 110, sometimes within several weeks.

Like you, I gained the standard ten pounds but I gained it all in less than four weeks. And my new doctor got on his soapbox during his first visit about "how women want to be too thin, and my nieces, blah-blah-blah...."

And then I said, "But I've never weighed this much! My clothes don't fit!"

I understand it could be worse; my godmother is morbidly obese and they just removed her parithyroid (perithyroid?). But, size is relative. I don't move as easily with this extra weight.

Best wishes--

C.

IMHO, the tonsils coming out at 8 and weight is probably highly individual and has more to do with genetics then anything else. Mine were also out at 8 and I was an extremely thin child and that lasted until my mid-30's when thyroid problems reared it's ugly head. And by extremely thin - I did not get over 100 lbs. until I had thyroid problems. I weighed 85 when I graduated HS. Approx. 88 at College and when I was 29 at the end of my pregancy with my daughter I barely got to 110. Within weeks of having her, I was back to 92.

So it is highly individual, as you see with me - weight was the opposite problem. And I ate - alot. Myself, my eldest sister and my younger sister all take after my mother's mother side of the family - thin petite women, my mother and sister just older then me take after her father's side of the family - very curvey Marilyn Monroe type women - genetics in play. My sisters are still thin (size 2's, even after kids - grandma was always a size 2 up to her 90's then she wore a 6 - she was very upset about that! Mom's still a Marilyn Monroe figure - same with my sister (who'd rather be thin - but oh well genetics).

I'm the only one who's body type is now different - but I have Central Hypothyroidism, a Pituitary tumor and Hashimoto's. While I am not fat, I have gained weight. I am no longer skinny skinny (I did need to gain some). But I could stand to lose 10-15 pounds. But I don't really complain as with what all I do have it could be very very worse. Many people with the same things I have, have gained 50-100 lbs. I gained some I needed to plus just a few extra. So I am thankful overall - that I had the genetics I did. It plays a bigger part then we give credit for in how our bodies work at the cellular level and process when things go haywire. It is why one will gain 10-20 the medical standard you always here about and some will gain 100. Why one medication works for one and not another. Doctors don't ever consider this - but I have given it alot of thought.

Just my 2 cents.

Janie-----Original Message-----From: Eva CaballeroSent: Aug 10, 2004 10:34 PMTo: Texas_Thyroid_Groups Subject: Re: South Texas Newbie Intro

Just came back low on TSH lab reports..I've always been a chubby kid...had tonsils out when I was 8 (heard that could have been a contributing factor). Do not think anyone has run antibodies tests...ferritin, the red blood cell counts, a B12 or Folic Acid test...the 's certified M.D. that I am seeing now did saliva and urinalysis tests.

lab work at new family practice MD (stopped seeing this doctor...now seeing 's certified MD), July 16... on Armour 1.5 gr ..Total Cholestrol 206, Triglycerides 101, HDL Cholestrol 64, LDL Cholestrol Calc 102, TSH .073

Thanks for the welcome...feel more at ease! wrote:

Hello Eva and Welcome!!

First wanting to know what you were diagnosed with as the cause of your hypothyroid. Hashimoto's Disease, antibodies? Give us a little more history on what all has happened to you. Has a doctor ever run antibodies tests on you for thyroid? What were your most recent lab values for thyroid, also ferritin, and any other pertinent lab values, like the red blood cell counts? Have you ever had a B12 or Folic Acid test run? I know it sounds like a lot of questions, but is all relevant to you.

South Texas Newbie Intro

South of San ...I am a 48 year old, Hispanic, approx. 35 lbs overweight, was diagnosed with hypothyroidism 1995, have taken Synthroid and Armour (various dosages)...feel great for awhile then feel bad...go back to doctor and they say 'your TSH is great, keep taking Synthroid/Armour'...then I go back months later, still feeling bad (having tired of exercising and dieting and no weight loss), they take blood tests...thyroid is low again, adjust meds or doctors just say 'maybe you are just supposed to be at this weight/feel apathetic, brain fog...maybe you should just accept it...maybe you need to see a therapist'.

Jul 20, 2003 I stopped taking 90 mcg of Armour, July 25, 2003 started taking T3 ('s Syndrome) protocol...as of Aug 6 90 mcg of T3. I am feeling a little better but then started to feel hopeless...maybe this isn't going to work either...I am supposed to feel this way...maybe I am supposed to crave unfavorable carbs to comfort me into more brain fog!

I got onto another yahoo group thinking they were also taking 's T3 protocol and I don't think they were on my same wave length. I searched your group to see if anyone had mentioned 's Syndrome and I could not locate. Am I in the wrong group again?!

I will see the physician ('s Syndrome, certified physician) next week...

-eva-

[Guest guest]

I heard the same from docs on the weight - add to that "it's part of getting older" "you needed to weigh more". What really got them looking in the first place was my inability to conceive a second child - if it wasn't for my infertility problems and their finding the pituitary problems which lead to them finding the hypothyroidism. I'd probably still be "fighting" with them.

I hear you about not moving right - I don't feel as if I do either. And clothes not fitting - let's not go there - I've learned to shut up - other people think I look fine - they just don't understand - to me I'm not fine.

Janie Re: South Texas Newbie Intro

Dear Janie--

I'm the same as you. Both my parents were ultra-thin genetically, and petite. The problem was, that when I first started complaining about symptoms ten years ago in my early 20s, no doctor would even run a glucose test/T4-T3 test because I looked so "healthy". In all that time, my weight would swing wildly from 90 to 110, sometimes within several weeks.

Like you, I gained the standard ten pounds but I gained it all in less than four weeks. And my new doctor got on his soapbox during his first visit about "how women want to be too thin, and my nieces, blah-blah-blah...."

And then I said, "But I've never weighed this much! My clothes don't fit!"

I understand it could be worse; my godmother is morbidly obese and they just removed her parithyroid (perithyroid?). But, size is relative. I don't move as easily with this extra weight.

Best wishes--

C.

IMHO, the tonsils coming out at 8 and weight is probably highly individual and has more to do with genetics then anything else. Mine were also out at 8 and I was an extremely thin child and that lasted until my mid-30's when thyroid problems reared it's ugly head. And by extremely thin - I did not get over 100 lbs. until I had thyroid problems. I weighed 85 when I graduated HS. Approx. 88 at College and when I was 29 at the end of my pregancy with my daughter I barely got to 110. Within weeks of having her, I was back to 92.

So it is highly individual, as you see with me - weight was the opposite problem. And I ate - alot. Myself, my eldest sister and my younger sister all take after my mother's mother side of the family - thin petite women, my mother and sister just older then me take after her father's side of the family - very curvey Marilyn Monroe type women - genetics in play. My sisters are still thin (size 2's, even after kids - grandma was always a size 2 up to her 90's then she wore a 6 - she was very upset about that! Mom's still a Marilyn Monroe figure - same with my sister (who'd rather be thin - but oh well genetics).

I'm the only one who's body type is now different - but I have Central Hypothyroidism, a Pituitary tumor and Hashimoto's. While I am not fat, I have gained weight. I am no longer skinny skinny (I did need to gain some). But I could stand to lose 10-15 pounds. But I don't really complain as with what all I do have it could be very very worse. Many people with the same things I have, have gained 50-100 lbs. I gained some I needed to plus just a few extra. So I am thankful overall - that I had the genetics I did. It plays a bigger part then we give credit for in how our bodies work at the cellular level and process when things go haywire. It is why one will gain 10-20 the medical standard you always here about and some will gain 100. Why one medication works for one and not another. Doctors don't ever consider this - but I have given it alot of thought.

Just my 2 cents.

Janie-----Original Message-----From: Eva CaballeroSent: Aug 10, 2004 10:34 PMTo: Texas_Thyroid_Groups Subject: Re: South Texas Newbie Intro

Just came back low on TSH lab reports..I've always been a chubby kid...had tonsils out when I was 8 (heard that could have been a contributing factor). Do not think anyone has run antibodies tests...ferritin, the red blood cell counts, a B12 or Folic Acid test...the 's certified M.D. that I am seeing now did saliva and urinalysis tests.

lab work at new family practice MD (stopped seeing this doctor...now seeing 's certified MD), July 16... on Armour 1.5 gr ..Total Cholestrol 206, Triglycerides 101, HDL Cholestrol 64, LDL Cholestrol Calc 102, TSH .073

Thanks for the welcome...feel more at ease! wrote:

Hello Eva and Welcome!!

First wanting to know what you were diagnosed with as the cause of your hypothyroid. Hashimoto's Disease, antibodies? Give us a little more history on what all has happened to you. Has a doctor ever run antibodies tests on you for thyroid? What were your most recent lab values for thyroid, also ferritin, and any other pertinent lab values, like the red blood cell counts? Have you ever had a B12 or Folic Acid test run? I know it sounds like a lot of questions, but is all relevant to you.

South Texas Newbie Intro

South of San ...I am a 48 year old, Hispanic, approx. 35 lbs overweight, was diagnosed with hypothyroidism 1995, have taken Synthroid and Armour (various dosages)...feel great for awhile then feel bad...go back to doctor and they say 'your TSH is great, keep taking Synthroid/Armour'...then I go back months later, still feeling bad (having tired of exercising and dieting and no weight loss), they take blood tests...thyroid is low again, adjust meds or doctors just say 'maybe you are just supposed to be at this weight/feel apathetic, brain fog...maybe you should just accept it...maybe you need to see a therapist'.

Jul 20, 2003 I stopped taking 90 mcg of Armour, July 25, 2003 started taking T3 ('s Syndrome) protocol...as of Aug 6 90 mcg of T3. I am feeling a little better but then started to feel hopeless...maybe this isn't going to work either...I am supposed to feel this way...maybe I am supposed to crave unfavorable carbs to comfort me into more brain fog!

I got onto another yahoo group thinking they were also taking 's T3 protocol and I don't think they were on my same wave length. I searched your group to see if anyone had mentioned 's Syndrome and I could not locate. Am I in the wrong group again?!

I will see the physician ('s Syndrome, certified physician) next week...

-eva-

[Guest guest]

I don't know anything about one list with all these things on it. Everything I've found out has been with research in various places, and extreme help from the Groups, with all their experiences and mine put together. I just know that the nutritional testing and antibodies, Free T3, Free T4 and TSH are needed, along with monitoring this very closely for quite some time, about every 6 wks to 3 months. A lot of these things would apply to any thyroid patient, except for the close together monitoring, far into the future. Iodine is also a very big factor, with varying opinions on the sbjct, and I opt for less iodine with Hashi's.

Re: South Texas Newbie Intro

,

Is there a "master list" of the type of lab tests for those of us with Hashi's should have done regularly? ie; TSH, Ferritin, ???? others

I've been following various threads about lab testing results and it seems like that would be a helpful tool.

Jann

[Guest guest]

I don't know anything about one list with all these things on it. Everything I've found out has been with research in various places, and extreme help from the Groups, with all their experiences and mine put together. I just know that the nutritional testing and antibodies, Free T3, Free T4 and TSH are needed, along with monitoring this very closely for quite some time, about every 6 wks to 3 months. A lot of these things would apply to any thyroid patient, except for the close together monitoring, far into the future. Iodine is also a very big factor, with varying opinions on the sbjct, and I opt for less iodine with Hashi's.

Re: South Texas Newbie Intro

,

Is there a "master list" of the type of lab tests for those of us with Hashi's should have done regularly? ie; TSH, Ferritin, ???? others

I've been following various threads about lab testing results and it seems like that would be a helpful tool.

Jann

[Guest guest]

In my opinion, you need the autoantibodies tests for the two major thyroid autoantibodies-----antithyroidperoxidase antibodies and the antithyroglobulin antibodies. One naturally follows the other, most of the time. If the doc won't run them go to www.healthcheckusa.com, and you can get the two of them together for about $60. This is what I did, after all these yrs of not being really really sure. It makes a huge difference in monitoring and treatment. When you find out you have this, you can take a more aggressive action with either treatment by the doc or your own treatment. I've been treating myself, as I could get no doc in my area to understand this, plus lack of insurance, etc...

Re: South Texas Newbie Intro

Just came back low on TSH lab reports..I've always been a chubby kid...had tonsils out when I was 8 (heard that could have been a contributing factor). Do not think anyone has run antibodies tests...ferritin, the red blood cell counts, a B12 or Folic Acid test...the 's certified M.D. that I am seeing now did saliva and urinalysis tests.

lab work at new family practice MD (stopped seeing this doctor...now seeing 's certified MD), July 16... on Armour 1.5 gr ..Total Cholestrol 206, Triglycerides 101, HDL Cholestrol 64, LDL Cholestrol Calc 102, TSH .073

Thanks for the welcome...feel more at ease!

[Guest guest]

Dear Lynn--

I don't know much about the activity that surrounded having her

parathyroid removed, but I can put you in touch with her by email.

She was very sickly prior to her surgery.

I will get her email tonight. She's also a nurse.

Best wishes--

C.

,

You said that your godmother had her parathyroid removed?

I am interested in getting more information on the parathyroid.

Do you know why her's was removed? What symptoms did she

have?

Still looking for information on the parathyroid. I was certain

someone in the group would know something!

LYNN

t 11:40 AM 8/11/2004 -0500, you wrote:

Dear Janie--

I'm the same as you. Both my parents were ultra-thin

genetically, and petite. The problem was, that when I first

started complaining about symptoms ten years ago in my early 20s, no

doctor would even run a glucose test/T4-T3 test because I looked so

" healthy " . In all that time, my weight would swing

wildly from 90 to 110, sometimes within several weeks.

Like you, I gained the standard ten pounds but I gained it all in less

than four weeks. And my new doctor got on his soapbox during his

first visit about " how women want to be too thin, and my nieces,

blah-blah-blah.... "

And then I said, " But I've never weighed this much! My

clothes don't fit! "

I understand it could be worse; my godmother is morbidly obese and

they just removed her parithyroid (perithyroid?).

But, size is relative. I don't move as easily with this extra

weight.

Best wishes--

C.

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