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Nick-

Instead of insulting me, why don't ask any pROSHI user, here,

how they feel about their pROSHI usage, rather than wandering,

in ignorance!?

/ChuckD....

>

> List mates: & nbsp;

> & nbsp;

> If anyone can make sense of Chuck D's explanation of p-Roshi --

good luck! & nbsp; & nbsp; His cryptic and smart-aleck comments are

tiresome and frankly suspect. & nbsp;

> & nbsp;

> & nbsp;I thought & nbsp;thought about using p-Roshi several years ago

to complement neurofeedback as a home-trainer of a brain-injured

family member.

> & nbsp;

> Apart from the fact that there's some evidence out there that

photostimulation may encourage seizures, the following website was

the most informative wrt to my backing off.

> & nbsp;

> http://home.comcast.net/~truthsucks/more_proshi.html

> http://home.comcast.net/~truthsucks/more_biofeedback

> & nbsp;

> & nbsp;

> Good luck

> & nbsp;

> nick mammano PhD Chemical Physics.

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I looked at the TruthSucks website. In reality, the use of the

pRoshi2+ certainly has made a profoundly positive difference to a lot

of clients. I think it goes way beyond the description on the

Truthsucks site. With people who are not on heavy psychotropic

medications the effects are quick... most notable in anxiety

reduction and high level stress. For those on psychotropics it

simply takes a little longer to get a good lasting effect. After

more than 30 years of practice I would not want to do this work

without the pRoshi --it is an amazing tool. Chuck in my book is a

flippin genius with enough sass to get his technology on the market

and into the hands of practitioners who really want things that do

work. His efforts are to be applauded in spite of his brevity. He

works with some of the finest scientists in the neurofeedback

community and brings to this group information that is

substantiated. The piece in Evan's book is an interesting read for

those so inclined.

Cheers,

Dr Marie Green

At 02:11 PM 6/12/2008, you wrote:

>For further 'valid' reference, instead of that crap that you posted,

>check out the " Handbook of Neurofeedback " , by -- Chapter 8.

>

>/ChuckD....

>

>

> > >

> > > List mates: & nbsp;

> > > & nbsp;

> > > If anyone can make sense of Chuck D's explanation of p-Roshi --

> > good luck! & nbsp; & nbsp; His cryptic and smart-aleck comments are

> > tiresome and frankly suspect. & nbsp;

> > > & nbsp;

> > > & nbsp;I thought & nbsp;thought about using p-Roshi several years

>ago

> > to complement neurofeedback as a home-trainer of a brain-injured

> > family member.

> > > & nbsp;

> > > Apart from the fact that there's some evidence out there that

> > photostimulation may encourage seizures, the following website was

> > the most informative wrt to my backing off.

> > > & nbsp;

> > >

>

<http://home.comcast.net/~truthsucks/more_proshi.html>http://home.comcast.net/~t\

ruthsucks/more_proshi.html

> > > http://home.comcast.net/~truthsucks/more_biofeedback

> > > & nbsp;

> > > & nbsp;

> > > Good luck

> > > & nbsp;

> > > nick mammano PhD Chemical Physics.

> > >

> >

>

>

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I looked at the TruthSucks website. In reality, the use of the

pRoshi2+ certainly has made a profoundly positive difference to a lot

of clients. I think it goes way beyond the description on the

Truthsucks site. With people who are not on heavy psychotropic

medications the effects are quick... most notable in anxiety

reduction and high level stress. For those on psychotropics it

simply takes a little longer to get a good lasting effect. After

more than 30 years of practice I would not want to do this work

without the pRoshi --it is an amazing tool. Chuck in my book is a

flippin genius with enough sass to get his technology on the market

and into the hands of practitioners who really want things that do

work. His efforts are to be applauded in spite of his brevity. He

works with some of the finest scientists in the neurofeedback

community and brings to this group information that is

substantiated. The piece in Evan's book is an interesting read for

those so inclined.

Cheers,

Dr Marie Green

At 02:11 PM 6/12/2008, you wrote:

>For further 'valid' reference, instead of that crap that you posted,

>check out the " Handbook of Neurofeedback " , by -- Chapter 8.

>

>/ChuckD....

>

>

> > >

> > > List mates: & nbsp;

> > > & nbsp;

> > > If anyone can make sense of Chuck D's explanation of p-Roshi --

> > good luck! & nbsp; & nbsp; His cryptic and smart-aleck comments are

> > tiresome and frankly suspect. & nbsp;

> > > & nbsp;

> > > & nbsp;I thought & nbsp;thought about using p-Roshi several years

>ago

> > to complement neurofeedback as a home-trainer of a brain-injured

> > family member.

> > > & nbsp;

> > > Apart from the fact that there's some evidence out there that

> > photostimulation may encourage seizures, the following website was

> > the most informative wrt to my backing off.

> > > & nbsp;

> > >

>

<http://home.comcast.net/~truthsucks/more_proshi.html>http://home.comcast.net/~t\

ruthsucks/more_proshi.html

> > > http://home.comcast.net/~truthsucks/more_biofeedback

> > > & nbsp;

> > > & nbsp;

> > > Good luck

> > > & nbsp;

> > > nick mammano PhD Chemical Physics.

> > >

> >

>

>

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OK, thanks to all who have participated in this thread. You are welcome to continue it back-channel among yourselves. Thanks for sharing your experiences.

Pete

Hi Dr Roxanna from Romania,I appreciate your telling the tale. Those of us who have actually used the pRoshi in clinical practice have case after case of very improved patients who are substantially better with the

pRoshi. My clients come in wanting to do their sessions because it really helps them feel better.. After a short amount of time they dont need it and they are back to a good life without anxiety, depression, ADHD, trauma, etc. I would not want to practice therapy

without the Roshi and Im glad I dont have to!!

..-- Van Deusenpvdtlc@...http://www.brain-trainer.com

305/433-3160The Learning Curve, Inc.

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