Guest guest Posted April 21, 2005 Report Share Posted April 21, 2005 > Why can't you tell the doctor you want > off the meds? e I think he can. I think the implication is that he believes the doctor will forcably institutionalize him if he refuses. Generally that is not the case. In the US, to forcably institutionalize someone, one must prove imminent threat of harm to oneself or to others. The imminent threat of harm part does not reach to a perceived psychological well-being from taking drugs. An example of imminent threat of harm would be serious physical injury. These are determinations made by a judge in a court of law; not by some Psyciatrist who just got a free donut dinner from the Ritalin sales rep. " Loss of self-esteem " is not an imminent threat of harm, except maybe on a website. ( " Loss of self-esteem " is either a result of something or a " red flag " for something.) Once institutionalized, it's more likely that drugs can be forced, but only if one is formally committed or otherwise signs a waiver. Without that, forced drugging is common law assault. Obviously different countries have different rules in this regard, but I suspect that the only place you'll see forced drugging is in a book by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn ( " The Gulag Archipelago " ). That said, I had seen people committed to mental institutions. The FBO where I took my primary pilot training would transport prisoners and mental patients for the State of Idaho, and I remember talking to one or two of them. I suppose some of people I thought were prisoners were actually committed mental patients. In either case, there definitely were people who were " committed " in one form or another to the state mental institutions. Needless to say, I wasn't involved with that part of the FBO's business. I would not have been aware of autism beyond Temple Grandin, but it seemed that the people being transported to those facilities were far more " out of it " than someone with autism. They were far more " out of it " than someone with autism who is depressed. - s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 Thanks for the clarification. e RE: Aspie Unity > Why can't you tell the doctor you want > off the meds? e I think he can. I think the implication is that he believes the doctor will forcably institutionalize him if he refuses. Generally that is not the case. In the US, to forcably institutionalize someone, one must prove imminent threat of harm to oneself or to others. The imminent threat of harm part does not reach to a perceived psychological well-being from taking drugs. An example of imminent threat of harm would be serious physical injury. These are determinations made by a judge in a court of law; not by some Psyciatrist who just got a free donut dinner from the Ritalin sales rep. " Loss of self-esteem " is not an imminent threat of harm, except maybe on a website. ( " Loss of self-esteem " is either a result of something or a " red flag " for something.) Once institutionalized, it's more likely that drugs can be forced, but only if one is formally committed or otherwise signs a waiver. Without that, forced drugging is common law assault. Obviously different countries have different rules in this regard, but I suspect that the only place you'll see forced drugging is in a book by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn ( " The Gulag Archipelago " ). That said, I had seen people committed to mental institutions. The FBO where I took my primary pilot training would transport prisoners and mental patients for the State of Idaho, and I remember talking to one or two of them. I suppose some of people I thought were prisoners were actually committed mental patients. In either case, there definitely were people who were " committed " in one form or another to the state mental institutions. Needless to say, I wasn't involved with that part of the FBO's business. I would not have been aware of autism beyond Temple Grandin, but it seemed that the people being transported to those facilities were far more " out of it " than someone with autism. They were far more " out of it " than someone with autism who is depressed. - s FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship, support and acceptance. Everyone is valued. Don't forget, there are links to other FAM sites on the Links page in the folder marked " Other FAM Sites. " ________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 Thanks for the clarification. e RE: Aspie Unity > Why can't you tell the doctor you want > off the meds? e I think he can. I think the implication is that he believes the doctor will forcably institutionalize him if he refuses. Generally that is not the case. In the US, to forcably institutionalize someone, one must prove imminent threat of harm to oneself or to others. The imminent threat of harm part does not reach to a perceived psychological well-being from taking drugs. An example of imminent threat of harm would be serious physical injury. These are determinations made by a judge in a court of law; not by some Psyciatrist who just got a free donut dinner from the Ritalin sales rep. " Loss of self-esteem " is not an imminent threat of harm, except maybe on a website. ( " Loss of self-esteem " is either a result of something or a " red flag " for something.) Once institutionalized, it's more likely that drugs can be forced, but only if one is formally committed or otherwise signs a waiver. Without that, forced drugging is common law assault. Obviously different countries have different rules in this regard, but I suspect that the only place you'll see forced drugging is in a book by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn ( " The Gulag Archipelago " ). That said, I had seen people committed to mental institutions. The FBO where I took my primary pilot training would transport prisoners and mental patients for the State of Idaho, and I remember talking to one or two of them. I suppose some of people I thought were prisoners were actually committed mental patients. In either case, there definitely were people who were " committed " in one form or another to the state mental institutions. Needless to say, I wasn't involved with that part of the FBO's business. I would not have been aware of autism beyond Temple Grandin, but it seemed that the people being transported to those facilities were far more " out of it " than someone with autism. They were far more " out of it " than someone with autism who is depressed. - s FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship, support and acceptance. Everyone is valued. Don't forget, there are links to other FAM sites on the Links page in the folder marked " Other FAM Sites. " ________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 According to the text books, autism is a spectrum disorder. The difference between AS and autism as I understand it is that people with AS tend to have a higher IQ and a higher score in verbal IQ than in performance IQ. Both AS (discovered by Hans Asperger in 1944) and classic autism (discovered by Leo Kanner in 1943) are communication disorders merely spanning in severity. That is how the research I have read defines it. Hope that helps. e > > > " We're not sick, we're just wired up a little differently. " > > > > Even 'differently' has its own negative connotations. Can't we use > some > > sort of positive expression? I'm at a loss for just the right words > at > > the moment, but am searching. > > Rainbow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 According to the text books, autism is a spectrum disorder. The difference between AS and autism as I understand it is that people with AS tend to have a higher IQ and a higher score in verbal IQ than in performance IQ. Both AS (discovered by Hans Asperger in 1944) and classic autism (discovered by Leo Kanner in 1943) are communication disorders merely spanning in severity. That is how the research I have read defines it. Hope that helps. e > > > " We're not sick, we're just wired up a little differently. " > > > > Even 'differently' has its own negative connotations. Can't we use > some > > sort of positive expression? I'm at a loss for just the right words > at > > the moment, but am searching. > > Rainbow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 From stuff I've read and from this site, it seems to me that there is a qualitative difference between Asperger's and autism, not just a matter of degree. I don't think that translates to superiority any more than being white is superior to being black. However, the idea of a spectrum doesn't seem to me (based on limited knowledge) have any real support. Can anybody tell me why there is a belief that AS and Autism constitute a spectrum? Ken Ken > Thank you for the clarification. So basically the other person I read was referring to an assumed Aspie superiority(sp?) over autistics. Interesting. > e > > > Re: Re: Aspie Unity > > I didn't know being on meds was almost needed for a Dx. I've been on Paxil > (which is a seratonin reuptake inhibitor) to control my anxiety for several > years. It makes me tired too sometimes, but the way I handle that is to either > take it a few hours before I go to sleep or if I take it in the mornings to > work in a time in the afternoon when I can take a " Paxil nap " for about 45 > minutes to sleep off the drowsiness. I also find that actually eating something > often helps to boost the energy for a while. It has to be something fairly > light with a balance of carbs and protein. Often I'll eat a slice or two of > toast and a slice of lean meat along with a piece of fruit or a salad. That seems > to work pretty well. Eating too big of a meal just makes me tired so is > counter productive. > > As for the light skinned black thing. This seems to be a worldwide > phenomenon. Its not just whites that look down on dark skinned people, but other > people do it too. In Africa, it is not uncommon for the leaders to be more > lightskinned than the rest of the people. In India, the Higher castes were almost > solely populated by lighter skinned people while the darker skinned folks were > in the lower casts. Japan has this and a paradox. The higher class Japanese > also tended to be in higher the the darker skinned ones. However, there is a > small race of Causasian types people in the Northern Islands called the Ainu. > They are reputed to have been the original inhabitant of the Japanese Islands, > at least the northern ones, but they were wiped out by the Japanese > ancestors who came to the Islands. Today the Ainu live on what amount to reservations > and they are regarded about like Americans treated Amerindians in the mid > 1800's, minus the open warfare of course. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 Sorry, I hadn't read your posting before I responded to any earlier one. So is IQ the only real major difference? Ken > > > > " We're not sick, we're just wired up a little differently. " > > > > > > Even 'differently' has its own negative connotations. Can't we use > > some > > > sort of positive expression? I'm at a loss for just the right words > > at > > > the moment, but am searching. > > > Rainbow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 , e J wrote: My doctor put me on Stratera so that I could focus on something other than my area of interest. I'm on ritalin -- a similar stimulant. It is like night and day for me. I have depression too so the stimulant may be helping there. Anyway, my brain must just jump up and down for joy when it gets the stimulant. Without it I have many more depressed days wanting to stay in bed. and the zoo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 The only one that I have found. e Re: Aspie Unity Sorry, I hadn't read your posting before I responded to any earlier one. So is IQ the only real major difference? Ken > > > > " We're not sick, we're just wired up a little differently. " > > > > > > Even 'differently' has its own negative connotations. Can't we use > > some > > > sort of positive expression? I'm at a loss for just the right words > > at > > > the moment, but am searching. > > > Rainbow FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship, support and acceptance. Everyone is valued. Don't forget, there are links to other FAM sites on the Links page in the folder marked " Other FAM Sites. " ________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 The only one that I have found. e Re: Aspie Unity Sorry, I hadn't read your posting before I responded to any earlier one. So is IQ the only real major difference? Ken > > > > " We're not sick, we're just wired up a little differently. " > > > > > > Even 'differently' has its own negative connotations. Can't we use > > some > > > sort of positive expression? I'm at a loss for just the right words > > at > > > the moment, but am searching. > > > Rainbow FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship, support and acceptance. Everyone is valued. Don't forget, there are links to other FAM sites on the Links page in the folder marked " Other FAM Sites. " ________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 I've been in many discussions about what is the difference between AS and autism. Some people theorize that those with classic autism are in a world of their own and that there is no desire to be part of this one, whereas those with AS have more desire to communicate. Hope this makes sense. > > > > > " We're not sick, we're just wired up a little differently. " > > > > > > > > Even 'differently' has its own negative connotations. Can't we use > > > some > > > > sort of positive expression? I'm at a loss for just the right words > > > at > > > > the moment, but am searching. > > > > Rainbow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 I've been in many discussions about what is the difference between AS and autism. Some people theorize that those with classic autism are in a world of their own and that there is no desire to be part of this one, whereas those with AS have more desire to communicate. Hope this makes sense. > > > > > " We're not sick, we're just wired up a little differently. " > > > > > > > > Even 'differently' has its own negative connotations. Can't we use > > > some > > > > sort of positive expression? I'm at a loss for just the right words > > > at > > > > the moment, but am searching. > > > > Rainbow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 That's how I see it too, more or less. I have a hard time relating to the classic concept of autism. I feel it is quite dissimilar to AS, or such an extreme version it bears little resemblance. But what is high-functioning autism, and how does this differ from AS? And are people with classic autism unable to speak, or do they choose not to? It seems the problems aspies have are more to do with the social aspect of communicating than an actual inability to speak. Kitty > > > > > > " We're not sick, we're just wired up a little differently. " > > > > > > > > > > Even 'differently' has its own negative connotations. Can't > we use > > > > some > > > > > sort of positive expression? I'm at a loss for just the right > words > > > > at > > > > > the moment, but am searching. > > > > > Rainbow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 That's how I see it too, more or less. I have a hard time relating to the classic concept of autism. I feel it is quite dissimilar to AS, or such an extreme version it bears little resemblance. But what is high-functioning autism, and how does this differ from AS? And are people with classic autism unable to speak, or do they choose not to? It seems the problems aspies have are more to do with the social aspect of communicating than an actual inability to speak. Kitty > > > > > > " We're not sick, we're just wired up a little differently. " > > > > > > > > > > Even 'differently' has its own negative connotations. Can't > we use > > > > some > > > > > sort of positive expression? I'm at a loss for just the right > words > > > > at > > > > > the moment, but am searching. > > > > > Rainbow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 That's how I see it too, more or less. I have a hard time relating to the classic concept of autism. I feel it is quite dissimilar to AS, or such an extreme version it bears little resemblance. But what is high-functioning autism, and how does this differ from AS? And are people with classic autism unable to speak, or do they choose not to? It seems the problems aspies have are more to do with the social aspect of communicating than an actual inability to speak. Kitty > > > > > > " We're not sick, we're just wired up a little differently. " > > > > > > > > > > Even 'differently' has its own negative connotations. Can't > we use > > > > some > > > > > sort of positive expression? I'm at a loss for just the right > words > > > > at > > > > > the moment, but am searching. > > > > > Rainbow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 I've worked with some autistics who broke that mold - perhaps with autism we are all individuals and generalizations are difficult with this spectrum? e Re: Aspie Unity I've been in many discussions about what is the difference between AS and autism. Some people theorize that those with classic autism are in a world of their own and that there is no desire to be part of this one, whereas those with AS have more desire to communicate. Hope this makes sense. > > > > > " We're not sick, we're just wired up a little differently. " > > > > > > > > Even 'differently' has its own negative connotations. Can't we use > > > some > > > > sort of positive expression? I'm at a loss for just the right words > > > at > > > > the moment, but am searching. > > > > Rainbow FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship, support and acceptance. Everyone is valued. Don't forget, there are links to other FAM sites on the Links page in the folder marked " Other FAM Sites. " ________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 I've worked with some autistics who broke that mold - perhaps with autism we are all individuals and generalizations are difficult with this spectrum? e Re: Aspie Unity I've been in many discussions about what is the difference between AS and autism. Some people theorize that those with classic autism are in a world of their own and that there is no desire to be part of this one, whereas those with AS have more desire to communicate. Hope this makes sense. > > > > > " We're not sick, we're just wired up a little differently. " > > > > > > > > Even 'differently' has its own negative connotations. Can't we use > > > some > > > > sort of positive expression? I'm at a loss for just the right words > > > at > > > > the moment, but am searching. > > > > Rainbow FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship, support and acceptance. Everyone is valued. Don't forget, there are links to other FAM sites on the Links page in the folder marked " Other FAM Sites. " ________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 I've worked with some autistics who broke that mold - perhaps with autism we are all individuals and generalizations are difficult with this spectrum? e Re: Aspie Unity I've been in many discussions about what is the difference between AS and autism. Some people theorize that those with classic autism are in a world of their own and that there is no desire to be part of this one, whereas those with AS have more desire to communicate. Hope this makes sense. > > > > > " We're not sick, we're just wired up a little differently. " > > > > > > > > Even 'differently' has its own negative connotations. Can't we use > > > some > > > > sort of positive expression? I'm at a loss for just the right words > > > at > > > > the moment, but am searching. > > > > Rainbow FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship, support and acceptance. Everyone is valued. Don't forget, there are links to other FAM sites on the Links page in the folder marked " Other FAM Sites. " ________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 I don't think every concievable issue need be addressed. A workable draft could be made that simply addressed the top 5 or so issues: Social Skill Deficiency, Sensory Issues, Special Interests, Desire to be Useful, Need for Training. Each of these points could be expanded upon briefly and defined in loosely specific terms. That is to say tightly enough to be understandable and give the reading something to relate too, but not so vague that just about anything could apply or leaves the reader confused. Worked into this would be an explanation that some people are more and some less affected by these issues. Also, having a huge long list would be more of a disadvantage than an advantage. If a long list were presented, most people's reaction would be something like, "Holy Cow, these people are really screwed up! Do I really want to work with/be friends with someone like that?" Keeping it short and simple, on the other hand, would let people know that there are issues, but it won't seem so insurmountable. That would increase their willingness to help out. If they see it as mostly them bending over backwards and getting little in return, then why should they bother? As for the Aspies reading it, the general statements would also help. If every specific complaint were listed, something which would be impossible, they might not see some of their listed and might feel slighted. This could lead to them losing interest or demanding their issues be added. The result would be constant rewrites and an ever growing list, which would in turn turn off employers and others. By keeping the statements more general, Aspies could see that people have the same class of issues, if not the exact same spelled out. This would increase the odds of them being interested and lessen the need for rewrites. Well, I have to run. I hope this was clear enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 Because of the severity classic autism does seem dissimilar. High functioning autism and AS are very difficult to differentiate. Most diagnosticians use the IQ (verbal vs. performance) to decide whether it is AS or classic autism. Some people with classic autism are nonverbal - meaning they do not speak. Research has not discovered why this occurs only that it does. I have worked with one young man who was autistic and nonverbal and it was a pleasure! The teaching staff made comments such as, " It's like the two of you speak the same language. " This is where I first began to wonder exactly how different AS and autism was. We understood each other, which apparently, was difficult for NTs to accomplish. Just like with AS I addressed his needs from the point of view of what was his area of interest. And just like the kids with AS that I have worked with he responded. After several months he spoke one word, " Mom " . But I'm not sure that the verbal interaction was really as important as any interaction. He was extremely particular who he would interact with - more so than most of the Aspies I have worked with. Admittedly I have only had to the pleasure of working with other autistics in the school/training setting. But every experience has been a pleasure. There seems to be some kind of common link - whether we want to acknowledge it or not - that links our minds together. I wish I could find better words to describe the experience, I am extremely inadequate at this right now, but I suppose the best suggestion would be to go out and interact with those who have classic autism and make up your own minds. Then, once having walked a little closer to their path, we can all decide if AS and autism are truly linked or if they are two separate entities. e Re: Aspie Unity That's how I see it too, more or less. I have a hard time relating to the classic concept of autism. I feel it is quite dissimilar to AS, or such an extreme version it bears little resemblance. But what is high-functioning autism, and how does this differ from AS? And are people with classic autism unable to speak, or do they choose not to? It seems the problems aspies have are more to do with the social aspect of communicating than an actual inability to speak. Kitty > > > > > > " We're not sick, we're just wired up a little differently. " > > > > > > > > > > Even 'differently' has its own negative connotations. Can't > we use > > > > some > > > > > sort of positive expression? I'm at a loss for just the right > words > > > > at > > > > > the moment, but am searching. > > > > > Rainbow FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship, support and acceptance. Everyone is valued. Don't forget, there are links to other FAM sites on the Links page in the folder marked " Other FAM Sites. " ________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 Because of the severity classic autism does seem dissimilar. High functioning autism and AS are very difficult to differentiate. Most diagnosticians use the IQ (verbal vs. performance) to decide whether it is AS or classic autism. Some people with classic autism are nonverbal - meaning they do not speak. Research has not discovered why this occurs only that it does. I have worked with one young man who was autistic and nonverbal and it was a pleasure! The teaching staff made comments such as, " It's like the two of you speak the same language. " This is where I first began to wonder exactly how different AS and autism was. We understood each other, which apparently, was difficult for NTs to accomplish. Just like with AS I addressed his needs from the point of view of what was his area of interest. And just like the kids with AS that I have worked with he responded. After several months he spoke one word, " Mom " . But I'm not sure that the verbal interaction was really as important as any interaction. He was extremely particular who he would interact with - more so than most of the Aspies I have worked with. Admittedly I have only had to the pleasure of working with other autistics in the school/training setting. But every experience has been a pleasure. There seems to be some kind of common link - whether we want to acknowledge it or not - that links our minds together. I wish I could find better words to describe the experience, I am extremely inadequate at this right now, but I suppose the best suggestion would be to go out and interact with those who have classic autism and make up your own minds. Then, once having walked a little closer to their path, we can all decide if AS and autism are truly linked or if they are two separate entities. e Re: Aspie Unity That's how I see it too, more or less. I have a hard time relating to the classic concept of autism. I feel it is quite dissimilar to AS, or such an extreme version it bears little resemblance. But what is high-functioning autism, and how does this differ from AS? And are people with classic autism unable to speak, or do they choose not to? It seems the problems aspies have are more to do with the social aspect of communicating than an actual inability to speak. Kitty > > > > > > " We're not sick, we're just wired up a little differently. " > > > > > > > > > > Even 'differently' has its own negative connotations. Can't > we use > > > > some > > > > > sort of positive expression? I'm at a loss for just the right > words > > > > at > > > > > the moment, but am searching. > > > > > Rainbow FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship, support and acceptance. Everyone is valued. Don't forget, there are links to other FAM sites on the Links page in the folder marked " Other FAM Sites. " ________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 Because of the severity classic autism does seem dissimilar. High functioning autism and AS are very difficult to differentiate. Most diagnosticians use the IQ (verbal vs. performance) to decide whether it is AS or classic autism. Some people with classic autism are nonverbal - meaning they do not speak. Research has not discovered why this occurs only that it does. I have worked with one young man who was autistic and nonverbal and it was a pleasure! The teaching staff made comments such as, " It's like the two of you speak the same language. " This is where I first began to wonder exactly how different AS and autism was. We understood each other, which apparently, was difficult for NTs to accomplish. Just like with AS I addressed his needs from the point of view of what was his area of interest. And just like the kids with AS that I have worked with he responded. After several months he spoke one word, " Mom " . But I'm not sure that the verbal interaction was really as important as any interaction. He was extremely particular who he would interact with - more so than most of the Aspies I have worked with. Admittedly I have only had to the pleasure of working with other autistics in the school/training setting. But every experience has been a pleasure. There seems to be some kind of common link - whether we want to acknowledge it or not - that links our minds together. I wish I could find better words to describe the experience, I am extremely inadequate at this right now, but I suppose the best suggestion would be to go out and interact with those who have classic autism and make up your own minds. Then, once having walked a little closer to their path, we can all decide if AS and autism are truly linked or if they are two separate entities. e Re: Aspie Unity That's how I see it too, more or less. I have a hard time relating to the classic concept of autism. I feel it is quite dissimilar to AS, or such an extreme version it bears little resemblance. But what is high-functioning autism, and how does this differ from AS? And are people with classic autism unable to speak, or do they choose not to? It seems the problems aspies have are more to do with the social aspect of communicating than an actual inability to speak. Kitty > > > > > > " We're not sick, we're just wired up a little differently. " > > > > > > > > > > Even 'differently' has its own negative connotations. Can't > we use > > > > some > > > > > sort of positive expression? I'm at a loss for just the right > words > > > > at > > > > > the moment, but am searching. > > > > > Rainbow FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship, support and acceptance. Everyone is valued. Don't forget, there are links to other FAM sites on the Links page in the folder marked " Other FAM Sites. " ________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 Thanks for the info. I know several aspies, both online and in RL, but I do not know anyone with autism, only what I have seen or read about, so I am working with limited knowledge. I'd be interested in hearing the experiences of a high-functioning autistic, to see if I would still place AS and autism in two seperate categories. From my own perspective I seem to deal well with other aspies, but I have trouble with 'low-functioning' (for lack of a better term) people. I have so much trouble dealing with retarded people (as well as small children), that I actually feel panicky in their presence. I can't explain exactly why. Something to do with not being able to communicate on a deep level, probably. Kitty > > > > > > > " We're not sick, we're just wired up a little > differently. " > > > > > > > > > > > > Even 'differently' has its own negative connotations. Can't > > we use > > > > > some > > > > > > sort of positive expression? I'm at a loss for just the > right > > words > > > > > at > > > > > > the moment, but am searching. > > > > > > Rainbow > > > > > > FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship, support and acceptance. Everyone is valued. > > Don't forget, there are links to other FAM sites on the Links page in the folder marked " Other FAM Sites. " > > > > ________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 Thanks for the info. I know several aspies, both online and in RL, but I do not know anyone with autism, only what I have seen or read about, so I am working with limited knowledge. I'd be interested in hearing the experiences of a high-functioning autistic, to see if I would still place AS and autism in two seperate categories. From my own perspective I seem to deal well with other aspies, but I have trouble with 'low-functioning' (for lack of a better term) people. I have so much trouble dealing with retarded people (as well as small children), that I actually feel panicky in their presence. I can't explain exactly why. Something to do with not being able to communicate on a deep level, probably. Kitty > > > > > > > " We're not sick, we're just wired up a little > differently. " > > > > > > > > > > > > Even 'differently' has its own negative connotations. Can't > > we use > > > > > some > > > > > > sort of positive expression? I'm at a loss for just the > right > > words > > > > > at > > > > > > the moment, but am searching. > > > > > > Rainbow > > > > > > FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship, support and acceptance. Everyone is valued. > > Don't forget, there are links to other FAM sites on the Links page in the folder marked " Other FAM Sites. " > > > > ________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 Thanks for the info. I know several aspies, both online and in RL, but I do not know anyone with autism, only what I have seen or read about, so I am working with limited knowledge. I'd be interested in hearing the experiences of a high-functioning autistic, to see if I would still place AS and autism in two seperate categories. From my own perspective I seem to deal well with other aspies, but I have trouble with 'low-functioning' (for lack of a better term) people. I have so much trouble dealing with retarded people (as well as small children), that I actually feel panicky in their presence. I can't explain exactly why. Something to do with not being able to communicate on a deep level, probably. Kitty > > > > > > > " We're not sick, we're just wired up a little > differently. " > > > > > > > > > > > > Even 'differently' has its own negative connotations. Can't > > we use > > > > > some > > > > > > sort of positive expression? I'm at a loss for just the > right > > words > > > > > at > > > > > > the moment, but am searching. > > > > > > Rainbow > > > > > > FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship, support and acceptance. Everyone is valued. > > Don't forget, there are links to other FAM sites on the Links page in the folder marked " Other FAM Sites. " > > > > ________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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