Guest guest Posted July 25, 2000 Report Share Posted July 25, 2000 If you read your Bible/Torah you'll see what early man ate... Genesis 1:29 & 30...29) Then God said, " I give you every seed-bearing pland on the face of the whole earth nd every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. 30) And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air and all the creatures that move on the cround--everything that has the breath of life in it--I give every green plant for food. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2000 Report Share Posted July 25, 2000 If you read your Bible/Torah you'll see what early man ate... Genesis 1:29 & 30...29) Then God said, " I give you every seed-bearing pland on the face of the whole earth nd every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. 30) And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air and all the creatures that move on the cround--everything that has the breath of life in it--I give every green plant for food. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2000 Report Share Posted July 25, 2000 <<This, of course, assumes that you believe the Bible/Torah is anything more than the mythology of one group of religions. I'll stick to scientific evidence, thank you.>> The Bible is provable, is scientific evidence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2000 Report Share Posted July 25, 2000 <<This, of course, assumes that you believe the Bible/Torah is anything more than the mythology of one group of religions. I'll stick to scientific evidence, thank you.>> The Bible is provable, is scientific evidence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2000 Report Share Posted July 25, 2000 This, of course, assumes that you believe the Bible/Torah is anything more than the mythology of one group of religions. I'll stick to scientific evidence, thank you. --Original Message Text--- From: GypsyJo2@... Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 16:32:52 EDT If you read your Bible/Torah you'll see what early man ate... <snip> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2000 Report Share Posted July 25, 2000 <<The Bible is, or contains, nothing more than the mythology common to the Jewish, Christian, and Islamic faiths.>> hmmmm wondering if you've every taken a history course? try it sometime! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2000 Report Share Posted July 25, 2000 <<The Bible is, or contains, nothing more than the mythology common to the Jewish, Christian, and Islamic faiths.>> hmmmm wondering if you've every taken a history course? try it sometime! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2000 Report Share Posted July 25, 2000 <<The Bible is, or contains, nothing more than the mythology common to the Jewish, Christian, and Islamic faiths.>> hmmmm wondering if you've every taken a history course? try it sometime! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2000 Report Share Posted July 25, 2000 <<The Bible has been altered and rewritten so many times, it cannot be said to be the least big 'scientific'.>> The Bible has not been altered or rewritten, just TRANSLATED and yes I agree that sometimes the words don't translate the same but the gist is still the same. God doesn't change, even though man has. God was the same before, He is the same now, and He will be the same in the future. ONLY man changes. I'm not trying to " force or push " my views on anyone, nor am I expecting anyone else to feel the same as I do. I'm just giving my opinion-like I was told I could when I joined this group. If that is not allowed anymore, then take me off the list! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2000 Report Share Posted July 25, 2000 <<The Bible has been altered and rewritten so many times, it cannot be said to be the least big 'scientific'.>> The Bible has not been altered or rewritten, just TRANSLATED and yes I agree that sometimes the words don't translate the same but the gist is still the same. God doesn't change, even though man has. God was the same before, He is the same now, and He will be the same in the future. ONLY man changes. I'm not trying to " force or push " my views on anyone, nor am I expecting anyone else to feel the same as I do. I'm just giving my opinion-like I was told I could when I joined this group. If that is not allowed anymore, then take me off the list! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2000 Report Share Posted July 25, 2000 That has to be the most absurd question I have ever read. Scientific evidence, BY DEFINITION, is evidence that has been tested in the real world and proven to be true. The Bible is, or contains, nothing more than the mythology common to the Jewish, Christian, and Islamic faiths. If you are going to use religious mythology as your standard of truth, what makes the Bible any more reliable than the Vedas, the Eddas, the Sutras, or any other collection of myths? Each claims to be the words of God, each has been used as the standard of truth for one or more cultures through history, and each is only considered truth by those who follow that particular religion. Given the choice between mythology and proven scientific fact, I choose scientific fact. --Original Message Text--- From: GypsyJo2@... Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 17:32:26 EDT <<This, of course, assumes that you believe the Bible/Torah is anything more than the mythology of one group of religions. I'll stick to scientific evidence, thank you.>> The Bible is provable, is scientific evidence? -- Sailor Moon fanfiction at http://www.jdweiss.com/~raven/crystal.htm MoonieCode(1.12.05) SM:7[8] F:sMe++Pl+:vNe+Bl:aNa+Gr:pS+* D:sCc-:vEs- X:**[*]:aGxs++++|ClRd++++ O:d:s-+:a-:h++[+]:x-- P:a++++:s++:w+++:f-:eBGBrg:hBrL++[+]m:t-:cWh:bA+:*Sc:y+:r[-]|+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2000 Report Share Posted July 25, 2000 That has to be the most absurd question I have ever read. Scientific evidence, BY DEFINITION, is evidence that has been tested in the real world and proven to be true. The Bible is, or contains, nothing more than the mythology common to the Jewish, Christian, and Islamic faiths. If you are going to use religious mythology as your standard of truth, what makes the Bible any more reliable than the Vedas, the Eddas, the Sutras, or any other collection of myths? Each claims to be the words of God, each has been used as the standard of truth for one or more cultures through history, and each is only considered truth by those who follow that particular religion. Given the choice between mythology and proven scientific fact, I choose scientific fact. --Original Message Text--- From: GypsyJo2@... Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 17:32:26 EDT <<This, of course, assumes that you believe the Bible/Torah is anything more than the mythology of one group of religions. I'll stick to scientific evidence, thank you.>> The Bible is provable, is scientific evidence? -- Sailor Moon fanfiction at http://www.jdweiss.com/~raven/crystal.htm MoonieCode(1.12.05) SM:7[8] F:sMe++Pl+:vNe+Bl:aNa+Gr:pS+* D:sCc-:vEs- X:**[*]:aGxs++++|ClRd++++ O:d:s-+:a-:h++[+]:x-- P:a++++:s++:w+++:f-:eBGBrg:hBrL++[+]m:t-:cWh:bA+:*Sc:y+:r[-]|+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2000 Report Share Posted July 25, 2000 Have to agree with Bill here.....it DOES makes nice, light reading, however ;^). No one knows for certain what actually occurred 'back then'. The Bible has been altered and rewritten so many times, it cannot be said to be the least big 'scientific'. Just enjoy yourself - if you like reading the Bible and it provides inspiration for you, well, GREAT! Just don't expect EVERYONE to feel the same way you do. With all sincerity, Sandy Re: Fwd: NNF - The Cave Man Diet That has to be the most absurd question I have ever read. Scientific evidence, BY DEFINITION, is evidence that has been tested in the real world and proven to be true.The Bible is, or contains, nothing more than the mythology common to the Jewish, Christian, and Islamic faiths. If you are going to use religious mythology as your standard of truth, what makes the Bible any more reliable than the Vedas, the Eddas, the Sutras, or any other collection of myths? Each claims to be the words of God, each has been used as the standard of truth for one or more cultures through history, and each is only considered truth by those who follow that particular religion.Given the choice between mythology and proven scientific fact, I choose scientific fact.--Original Message Text---From: GypsyJo2@...Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 17:32:26 EDT<<This, of course, assumes that you believe the Bible/Torah is anythingmore than the mythology of one group of religions. I'll stick toscientific evidence, thank you.>>The Bible is provable, is scientific evidence?--Sailor Moon fanfiction at http://www.jdweiss.com/~raven/crystal.htmMoonieCode(1.12.05) SM:7[8] F:sMe++Pl+:vNe+Bl:aNa+Gr:pS+* D:sCc-:vEs- X:**[*]:aGxs++++|ClRd++++ O:d:s-+:a-:h++[+]:x-- P:a++++:s++:w+++:f-:eBGBrg:hBrL++[+]m:t-:cWh:bA+:*Sc:y+:r[-]|+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2000 Report Share Posted July 25, 2000 Have to agree with Bill here.....it DOES makes nice, light reading, however ;^). No one knows for certain what actually occurred 'back then'. The Bible has been altered and rewritten so many times, it cannot be said to be the least big 'scientific'. Just enjoy yourself - if you like reading the Bible and it provides inspiration for you, well, GREAT! Just don't expect EVERYONE to feel the same way you do. With all sincerity, Sandy Re: Fwd: NNF - The Cave Man Diet That has to be the most absurd question I have ever read. Scientific evidence, BY DEFINITION, is evidence that has been tested in the real world and proven to be true.The Bible is, or contains, nothing more than the mythology common to the Jewish, Christian, and Islamic faiths. If you are going to use religious mythology as your standard of truth, what makes the Bible any more reliable than the Vedas, the Eddas, the Sutras, or any other collection of myths? Each claims to be the words of God, each has been used as the standard of truth for one or more cultures through history, and each is only considered truth by those who follow that particular religion.Given the choice between mythology and proven scientific fact, I choose scientific fact.--Original Message Text---From: GypsyJo2@...Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 17:32:26 EDT<<This, of course, assumes that you believe the Bible/Torah is anythingmore than the mythology of one group of religions. I'll stick toscientific evidence, thank you.>>The Bible is provable, is scientific evidence?--Sailor Moon fanfiction at http://www.jdweiss.com/~raven/crystal.htmMoonieCode(1.12.05) SM:7[8] F:sMe++Pl+:vNe+Bl:aNa+Gr:pS+* D:sCc-:vEs- X:**[*]:aGxs++++|ClRd++++ O:d:s-+:a-:h++[+]:x-- P:a++++:s++:w+++:f-:eBGBrg:hBrL++[+]m:t-:cWh:bA+:*Sc:y+:r[-]|+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2000 Report Share Posted July 25, 2000 yes, I do know the difference. And I won't belabor the point. History proves that the Bible is true. But, I guess it's only true to those that believe in absolute truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2000 Report Share Posted July 25, 2000 yes, I do know the difference. And I won't belabor the point. History proves that the Bible is true. But, I guess it's only true to those that believe in absolute truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2000 Report Share Posted July 25, 2000 As a matter of fact, I have. I've also studied some archaeology and egyptology, and have several friends with degrees in history. You will not find historians, archaeologists, or egyptologists, except some of those who come from Christian schools, who consider the Bible to be anything more than the mythology of one small group of religions. It can be used as a secondary reference (you DO know the difference between primary references and secondary references, don't you?), but without SCIENTIFIC PROOF, it's no more reliable as a history text than the Iliad. --Original Message Text--- From: GypsyJo2@... Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 20:46:31 EDT <<The Bible is, or contains, nothing more than the mythology common to the Jewish, Christian, and Islamic faiths.>> hmmmm wondering if you've every taken a history course? try it sometime. -- Sailor Moon fanfiction at http://www.jdweiss.com/~raven/crystal.htm MoonieCode(1.12.05) SM:7[8] F:sMe++Pl+:vNe+Bl:aNa+Gr:pS+* D:sCc-:vEs- X:**[*]:aGxs++++|ClRd++++ O:d:s-+:a-:h++[+]:x-- P:a++++:s++:w+++:f-:eBGBrg:hBrL++[+]m:t-:cWh:bA+:*Sc:y+:r[-]|+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2000 Report Share Posted July 25, 2000 As a matter of fact, I have. I've also studied some archaeology and egyptology, and have several friends with degrees in history. You will not find historians, archaeologists, or egyptologists, except some of those who come from Christian schools, who consider the Bible to be anything more than the mythology of one small group of religions. It can be used as a secondary reference (you DO know the difference between primary references and secondary references, don't you?), but without SCIENTIFIC PROOF, it's no more reliable as a history text than the Iliad. --Original Message Text--- From: GypsyJo2@... Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 20:46:31 EDT <<The Bible is, or contains, nothing more than the mythology common to the Jewish, Christian, and Islamic faiths.>> hmmmm wondering if you've every taken a history course? try it sometime. -- Sailor Moon fanfiction at http://www.jdweiss.com/~raven/crystal.htm MoonieCode(1.12.05) SM:7[8] F:sMe++Pl+:vNe+Bl:aNa+Gr:pS+* D:sCc-:vEs- X:**[*]:aGxs++++|ClRd++++ O:d:s-+:a-:h++[+]:x-- P:a++++:s++:w+++:f-:eBGBrg:hBrL++[+]m:t-:cWh:bA+:*Sc:y+:r[-]|+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2000 Report Share Posted July 25, 2000 You can believe that if you wish, however, you must accept that when you express your opinion as if it were the one true right and only way, there will be negative reaction. When you express your opinion as if it were the one true right and only way, you will inspire people to feel that you are forcing your views on them. Like anything else, you have the freedom to say what you wish, as long as you accept the consequences of what you say. --Original Message Text--- From: GypsyJo2@... Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 20:53:46 EDT The Bible has not been altered or rewritten, just TRANSLATED and yes I agree that sometimes the words don't translate the same but the gist is still the same. God doesn't change, even though man has. God was the same before, He is the same now, and He will be the same in the future. ONLY man changes. I'm not trying to "force or push" my views on anyone, nor am I expecting anyone else to feel the same as I do. I'm just giving my opinion-like I was told I could when I joined this group. If that is not allowed anymore, then take me off the list! -- Sailor Moon fanfiction at http://www.jdweiss.com/~raven/crystal.htm MoonieCode(1.12.05) SM:7[8] F:sMe++Pl+:vNe+Bl:aNa+Gr:pS+* D:sCc-:vEs- X:**[*]:aGxs++++|ClRd++++ O:d:s-+:a-:h++[+]:x-- P:a++++:s++:w+++:f-:eBGBrg:hBrL++[+]m:t-:cWh:bA+:*Sc:y+:r[-]|+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2000 Report Share Posted July 25, 2000 You can believe that if you wish, however, you must accept that when you express your opinion as if it were the one true right and only way, there will be negative reaction. When you express your opinion as if it were the one true right and only way, you will inspire people to feel that you are forcing your views on them. Like anything else, you have the freedom to say what you wish, as long as you accept the consequences of what you say. --Original Message Text--- From: GypsyJo2@... Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 20:53:46 EDT The Bible has not been altered or rewritten, just TRANSLATED and yes I agree that sometimes the words don't translate the same but the gist is still the same. God doesn't change, even though man has. God was the same before, He is the same now, and He will be the same in the future. ONLY man changes. I'm not trying to "force or push" my views on anyone, nor am I expecting anyone else to feel the same as I do. I'm just giving my opinion-like I was told I could when I joined this group. If that is not allowed anymore, then take me off the list! -- Sailor Moon fanfiction at http://www.jdweiss.com/~raven/crystal.htm MoonieCode(1.12.05) SM:7[8] F:sMe++Pl+:vNe+Bl:aNa+Gr:pS+* D:sCc-:vEs- X:**[*]:aGxs++++|ClRd++++ O:d:s-+:a-:h++[+]:x-- P:a++++:s++:w+++:f-:eBGBrg:hBrL++[+]m:t-:cWh:bA+:*Sc:y+:r[-]|+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2000 Report Share Posted July 25, 2000 <<Wish I had this citation around when my then young son & daughter declared " we're vegetarians " just as we approached the end of the line for a hot dog stand in Disney World! Ken>> Thanks Ken, I think that was just about the nicest response I got to my email. God bless you! Joanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2000 Report Share Posted July 26, 2000 At 04:32 PM 7/25/00 -0400, GypsyJo2@... wisely said: >If you read your Bible/Torah you'll see what early man ate... Wish I had this citation around when my then young son & daughter declared " we're vegetarians " just as we approached the end of the line for a hot dog stand in Disney World! Ken ____________NetZero Free Internet Access and Email_________ Download Now http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html Request a CDROM 1- ___________________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2000 Report Share Posted July 26, 2000 At 04:32 PM 7/25/00 -0400, GypsyJo2@... wisely said: >If you read your Bible/Torah you'll see what early man ate... Wish I had this citation around when my then young son & daughter declared " we're vegetarians " just as we approached the end of the line for a hot dog stand in Disney World! Ken ____________NetZero Free Internet Access and Email_________ Download Now http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html Request a CDROM 1- ___________________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2000 Report Share Posted July 26, 2000 At 04:32 PM 7/25/00 -0400, GypsyJo2@... wisely said: >If you read your Bible/Torah you'll see what early man ate... Wish I had this citation around when my then young son & daughter declared " we're vegetarians " just as we approached the end of the line for a hot dog stand in Disney World! Ken ____________NetZero Free Internet Access and Email_________ Download Now http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html Request a CDROM 1- ___________________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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