Re: KT in stead of Molkosan?

[Guest guest]

Hi Vera,

Sorry, I don't know for the use of KT in your case but have you milk

kefir grains or a source to get some? You could use the whey of kefir.

Groetjes,

(in Belgium)

2006/10/23, vera_chiara :

> Hi,

>

> I have a vaginal infection which could be thrush. I talked with my

> friend who is aromatherapist and she gave me a recipe where I mix aroma-

> oils in Molkosan (this is the liquid that is over when one makes

> cheese). She had heard of apple vinaigre being used too. Since I have

> neither, and the purpose is to make the spot more acidic, I wondered if

> I could use KT instead? And if so, do I use fresh or matured (few

> months) KT for this?

>

> groetjes,

> Vera

> in Belgium

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Well, you were my source, but I really didn't like it and the friend

I passed them on to had forgotten the kefir and couldn't get the

grains out any more.

anyway, it is not that I do not want to use the Molkosan, but if I

don't have to buy it, it would be great (since I have no other use

for it...) so that is why I'm asking...

groetjes, Vera

>

> Hi Vera,

>

> Sorry, I don't know for the use of KT in your case but have you milk

> kefir grains or a source to get some? You could use the whey of

kefir.

>

> Groetjes,

> (in Belgium)

>

> 2006/10/23, vera_chiara :

> > Hi,

> >

> > I have a vaginal infection which could be thrush. I talked with my

> > friend who is aromatherapist and she gave me a recipe where I mix

aroma-

> > oils in Molkosan (this is the liquid that is over when one makes

> > cheese). She had heard of apple vinaigre being used too. Since I

have

> > neither, and the purpose is to make the spot more acidic, I

wondered if

> > I could use KT instead? And if so, do I use fresh or matured (few

> > months) KT for this?

> >

> > groetjes,

> > Vera

> > in Belgium

>

[Guest guest]

Vera,

definitely use KT, the more aged the better. Also, cut a good size chunk

of SCOBY and insert. Good health.

--V

>Hi,

>

>I have a vaginal infection which could be thrush. I talked with my

>friend who is aromatherapist and she gave me a recipe where I mix aroma-

>oils in Molkosan (this is the liquid that is over when one makes

>cheese). She had heard of apple vinaigre being used too. Since I have

>neither, and the purpose is to make the spot more acidic, I wondered if

>I could use KT instead? And if so, do I use fresh or matured (few

>months) KT for this?

>

>groetjes,

>Vera

>in Belgium

~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

[Guest guest]

Hi V,

would you use more vinaigry KT? I have a starterspot, but somehow

that feels like tooo much acid...

Vera

>

> Vera,

>

> definitely use KT, the more aged the better. Also, cut a good size

chunk

> of SCOBY and insert. Good health.

>

> --V

>

>

>

> >Hi,

> >

> >I have a vaginal infection which could be thrush. I talked with my

> >friend who is aromatherapist and she gave me a recipe where I mix

aroma-

> >oils in Molkosan (this is the liquid that is over when one makes

> >cheese). She had heard of apple vinaigre being used too. Since I

have

> >neither, and the purpose is to make the spot more acidic, I

wondered if

> >I could use KT instead? And if so, do I use fresh or matured (few

> >months) KT for this?

> >

> >groetjes,

> >Vera

> >in Belgium

>

>

> ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

> --A.J. Muste

>

[Guest guest]

>Hi V,

>

>would you use more vinaigry KT? I have a starterspot, but somehow

>that feels like tooo much acid...

>

>Vera

Yes, I would. If you want to kill off the candida, you might try douching

(slowly and gently) with hydrogen peroxide (3% antiseptic solution), then

with the vinegary KT. This protocol (using distilled vinegar) is being

used to kill EVERYTHING in hospitals, it is completely nontoxic and is also

recommended for raw veggies and as a washing protocol for fruits and

veggies. After gently douching, then apply the SCOBY and some acidophilus

powder or yogurt if you have it (a capsule of acidophilus powder does

nicely). YOu don't want to repeatedly do that protocol, but it does kill

molds, yeasts, bacteria, etc. The SCOBY/acidophilus creates a nurturing

environment bringing back the probiotics, and the yeasts in the SCOBY are

believed to displace candida yeasts.

If you don't want to experiment with this, just do the essential oil/KT

combination. But, if the alternative is apple cider vinegar, then the

vinegary KT is no more acidic than that. You want an acidic environment.

If the hydrogen peroxide and acidic-KT feel too intense, you can dilute

with a little water. But you don't want the any undigested sugars from

young KT in there. I have not done the hydrogen peroxide/KT-vinegar

protocol for candida, but I plan to if I have another imbalance of

candida. I have done KT-vinegar (slightly diluted) and then the

SCOBY/acidophilus for imbalances. I just think adding the hydrogen

peroxide as a separate step (don't mix them together) would give faster relief.

Ah-- I found a link from a midwife about using hydrogen peroxide for

vaginal

candida. http://www.gentlebirth.org/archives/vagInfections.html Hope this

helps. (I'm excited to find this.) If you scroll down the page you'll see

the info under " Vaginal Wash " and then further down is more info on

candidiasis.

If people are interested in the hydrogen peroxide/distilled vinegar

protocol, here is a link:

http://www.sciencenews.org/pages/sn_arch/9_28_96/food.htm (the original

development of the protocol in 1996). Must use distilled vinegar for

guaranteed results (because KT vinegar is not reliably acidic for this

purpose).

--V

~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

[Guest guest]

Diluted apple cider vinegar is wonderful as a cleaner for yeast infections and

other feminine nastiness. Just do not douche with it. It is rather cheap in

the grocery store. If you have any bottled vinegar left over and don't know

what to do with it ~ use it as a rinse for your hair. It takes away any product

that doesn't wash out.

SARAH

vera_chiara wrote:

Hi ,

Well, you were my source, but I really didn't like it and the friend

I passed them on to had forgotten the kefir and couldn't get the

grains out any more.

anyway, it is not that I do not want to use the Molkosan, but if I

don't have to buy it, it would be great (since I have no other use

for it...) so that is why I'm asking...

groetjes, Vera

>

> Hi Vera,

>

> Sorry, I don't know for the use of KT in your case but have you milk

> kefir grains or a source to get some? You could use the whey of

kefir.

>

> Groetjes,

> (in Belgium)

>

> 2006/10/23, vera_chiara :

> > Hi,

> >

> > I have a vaginal infection which could be thrush. I talked with my

> > friend who is aromatherapist and she gave me a recipe where I mix

aroma-

> > oils in Molkosan (this is the liquid that is over when one makes

> > cheese). She had heard of apple vinaigre being used too. Since I

have

> > neither, and the purpose is to make the spot more acidic, I

wondered if

> > I could use KT instead? And if so, do I use fresh or matured (few

> > months) KT for this?

> >

> > groetjes,

> > Vera

> > in Belgium

>

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[Guest guest]

Dear and all,

Thank you. I don't even have a yeast infection and I am so glad for

the information you provided. It helps me see why I reach for

hydrogen peroxide as a gargle when I get a sore throat, with no

instruction ever to do so. Now I follow it up with kt so I have it

covered. The information you provide helps in many applications and

how inexpensive and easy to obtain can you get. I have increased my

water intake as you recommended and have not had a headache since. I

thank you for that also. Anyway, I learn something everytime I stop

in to read and I am glad for this list and the wonderful people who

post here.

3jsmom31