Guest guest Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 Nope, I don't buy it. I did have some sugar in the house from a cake I made for dh's birthday, but I threw that out last week. When we go out, party or whatnot, that's when they get sugar. Overall, it balances out since I don't buy it or (usually) keep it in the house. Last night Noah (9) went to a birthday party. I told him he could make his own choices about what to eat, but I asked that he scrape any dyed icing off the cake. He brought home his party favor, which was a huge pixie stick, and he threw it away when he got home. Re: sugar >> >> >> Well, I didn't believe it till one time we >> were at this sanctuary type place and in the gift shop Marlie was >> playing with stuff and started to play with ladybug foil covered >> chocolates. I was looking at some junk and all of a sudden she >> screamed. I looked over at her and she was spitting out a piece of >> the stuff. Someone had broken open a few and so she stuck a bit in >> her mouth. I'm now a believer sugar is the devil. >> > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 Oh yea, I do remember you saying something about baking a cake. Would he not eat a cake sweetened with brown rice syrup and maple syrup? It's good you don't buy it so it's probably better to not freak or something. I am way too anal once I get on something. That's really cool that Noah did that with the pixie stick, you must have been proud of him. You mean mean mom depriving him like that. ;O) I HATE when I hear ppl tell me that what is wrong with this world? hope everyone enjoys their extra day off work tomorrow. those that are in the states that is......... reg > >> > >> Sadly, all three of my children know and love sugar. When Finn > > was 2 she > >> got a taste of something sugary at a family event (I think it was > > chocolate, > >> too) and she spit it out and wiped off her tongue. Of course, now > > she loves > >> the stuff. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Re: sugar > >> > >> > >> Well, I didn't believe it till one time we > >> were at this sanctuary type place and in the gift shop Marlie was > >> playing with stuff and started to play with ladybug foil covered > >> chocolates. I was looking at some junk and all of a sudden she > >> screamed. I looked over at her and she was spitting out a piece of > >> the stuff. Someone had broken open a few and so she stuck a bit in > >> her mouth. I'm now a believer sugar is the devil. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 Oh yea, I do remember you saying something about baking a cake. Would he not eat a cake sweetened with brown rice syrup and maple syrup? It's good you don't buy it so it's probably better to not freak or something. I am way too anal once I get on something. That's really cool that Noah did that with the pixie stick, you must have been proud of him. You mean mean mom depriving him like that. ;O) I HATE when I hear ppl tell me that what is wrong with this world? hope everyone enjoys their extra day off work tomorrow. those that are in the states that is......... reg > >> > >> Sadly, all three of my children know and love sugar. When Finn > > was 2 she > >> got a taste of something sugary at a family event (I think it was > > chocolate, > >> too) and she spit it out and wiped off her tongue. Of course, now > > she loves > >> the stuff. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Re: sugar > >> > >> > >> Well, I didn't believe it till one time we > >> were at this sanctuary type place and in the gift shop Marlie was > >> playing with stuff and started to play with ladybug foil covered > >> chocolates. I was looking at some junk and all of a sudden she > >> screamed. I looked over at her and she was spitting out a piece of > >> the stuff. Someone had broken open a few and so she stuck a bit in > >> her mouth. I'm now a believer sugar is the devil. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 No, he would eat it. It was totally out of habit and ease that I chose the sugar route (that and I can't get a stinking copy of that Chef Sato book, dangit.) I was especially proud of Noah. He's usually the one that sneaks nasty stuff. My oldest is really sensitive to dyes and artificial flavors (rampant in sugar things). He had a panic attack after having a bit of movie popcorn (yellow #5) and he has never forgotten it. It was a scary thing. He routinely turns yucky stuff down. I've even had parents call me and tell me about Conrad reading ingredient lists before eating something or even asking questions about the dinner offered! He makes me proud. I was so proud of Noah for both bringing home the pixie stick and then throwing it away. What a tangent! Yes, we are such bad mamas, Reggie. For shame ;-) Re: sugar > >> > >> > >> Well, I didn't believe it till one time we > >> were at this sanctuary type place and in the gift shop Marlie was > >> playing with stuff and started to play with ladybug foil covered > >> chocolates. I was looking at some junk and all of a sudden she > >> screamed. I looked over at her and she was spitting out a piece of > >> the stuff. Someone had broken open a few and so she stuck a bit in > >> her mouth. I'm now a believer sugar is the devil. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 No, he would eat it. It was totally out of habit and ease that I chose the sugar route (that and I can't get a stinking copy of that Chef Sato book, dangit.) I was especially proud of Noah. He's usually the one that sneaks nasty stuff. My oldest is really sensitive to dyes and artificial flavors (rampant in sugar things). He had a panic attack after having a bit of movie popcorn (yellow #5) and he has never forgotten it. It was a scary thing. He routinely turns yucky stuff down. I've even had parents call me and tell me about Conrad reading ingredient lists before eating something or even asking questions about the dinner offered! He makes me proud. I was so proud of Noah for both bringing home the pixie stick and then throwing it away. What a tangent! Yes, we are such bad mamas, Reggie. For shame ;-) Re: sugar > >> > >> > >> Well, I didn't believe it till one time we > >> were at this sanctuary type place and in the gift shop Marlie was > >> playing with stuff and started to play with ladybug foil covered > >> chocolates. I was looking at some junk and all of a sudden she > >> screamed. I looked over at her and she was spitting out a piece of > >> the stuff. Someone had broken open a few and so she stuck a bit in > >> her mouth. I'm now a believer sugar is the devil. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2007 Report Share Posted February 11, 2007 > > The moderator of the group said that since sugar was used that this > was not allowed on the Budwig protocol and that anyone with cancer > should not drink this tea as cancer feeds on sugar. Hi Janet - Although sugur is used for the kt to ferment, the amount of sugur left when ready for drinking is really up to you. The longer the ferment the less sugur. The longer the ferment, however, the more tart. So, it all depends on how tart you're willing to go. I'm not a chemist and don't know at what point the sugur is totally consumed. I'll bet there is someone here that might be able to help further with this aspect. But, there is a lab that would be able to test your kt to determin the amount of sugur in your kt. Hope that helps - I wish you well in your recovery. Randie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2007 Report Share Posted February 11, 2007 > > The moderator of the group said that since sugar was used that this > was not allowed on the Budwig protocol and that anyone with cancer > should not drink this tea as cancer feeds on sugar. Hi Janet - Although sugur is used for the kt to ferment, the amount of sugur left when ready for drinking is really up to you. The longer the ferment the less sugur. The longer the ferment, however, the more tart. So, it all depends on how tart you're willing to go. I'm not a chemist and don't know at what point the sugur is totally consumed. I'll bet there is someone here that might be able to help further with this aspect. But, there is a lab that would be able to test your kt to determin the amount of sugur in your kt. Hope that helps - I wish you well in your recovery. Randie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 Can anyone suggest substitutes for sugar or any hints. We are fighting yeast and the sugar deprivation is not going down well! >>Removing sugar cold turkey gave us the biggest die off reaction ever, I sympathise. I use Xylitol occasionally, some of it is corn based which can also be a problem for many of our kids so best to check the source. Stevia is another one, I think that comes as a liquid. We found it best just to end up not doing sweet stuff at all, real or pretend Activated charcoal and hour either side of supps/food can be helpful with the die off Mandi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 Hi, Can anyone suggest substitutes for sugar or any hints. We are fighting yeast and the sugar deprivation is not going down well! Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 I've been trying to decide if I want to switch forms of chromium. From picolinate to polynicotinate. Have you looked into this? >>I use Chromium GTF (I think GTF stands for Glucose Tolerance Factor??) Mandi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 Stevia or xylitol. the latter sells in Sainsburys as " perfect sweet " x > > Hi, > Can anyone suggest substitutes for sugar or any hints. We are fighting > yeast and the sugar deprivation is not going down well! > Thanks. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 Stevia or xylitol. the latter sells in Sainsburys as " perfect sweet " x > > Hi, > Can anyone suggest substitutes for sugar or any hints. We are fighting > yeast and the sugar deprivation is not going down well! > Thanks. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 Stevia or xylitol. the latter sells in Sainsburys as " perfect sweet " x > > Hi, > Can anyone suggest substitutes for sugar or any hints. We are fighting > yeast and the sugar deprivation is not going down well! > Thanks. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 , Maybe there's another way to tackle this. I know when I take chromium I don't crave the morning cuppa stimulant and the booze in the evening ( I can easily 'kill' a bottle if left alone to my own devices.) . I buy chromium from Pharmanord. It may be that your son is not getting the sugar into his cells and his brain is telling him to keep eating more. Chromium facilitates entry of sugar into the cells. This trace element is easily used up in times during oxidative stress. In the old days, people got this from porridge (I think) and liver and kidney. The French and Germans continue to eat this in the form of pate de foie and liverwurst in big quantities while here in the UK the traditional source, liver and oinions or steak and kidney pie has fallen in popularity. Chromium makes a BIG difference to me. This morning I am not missing my cuppa and I am actually drinking a cuppa detox. Wonders never cease! I feelin so good this morning, I am actually going to take meself off for a swim at the pool. :-))) stephaniesirr schrieb: > > Stevia or xylitol. the latter sells in Sainsburys as " perfect sweet " x > > > > > > Hi, > > Can anyone suggest substitutes for sugar or any hints. We are fighting > > yeast and the sugar deprivation is not going down well! > > Thanks. > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.8.3/1746 - Release Date: 25/10/2008 17:55 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 , Maybe there's another way to tackle this. I know when I take chromium I don't crave the morning cuppa stimulant and the booze in the evening ( I can easily 'kill' a bottle if left alone to my own devices.) . I buy chromium from Pharmanord. It may be that your son is not getting the sugar into his cells and his brain is telling him to keep eating more. Chromium facilitates entry of sugar into the cells. This trace element is easily used up in times during oxidative stress. In the old days, people got this from porridge (I think) and liver and kidney. The French and Germans continue to eat this in the form of pate de foie and liverwurst in big quantities while here in the UK the traditional source, liver and oinions or steak and kidney pie has fallen in popularity. Chromium makes a BIG difference to me. This morning I am not missing my cuppa and I am actually drinking a cuppa detox. Wonders never cease! I feelin so good this morning, I am actually going to take meself off for a swim at the pool. :-))) stephaniesirr schrieb: > > Stevia or xylitol. the latter sells in Sainsburys as " perfect sweet " x > > > > > > Hi, > > Can anyone suggest substitutes for sugar or any hints. We are fighting > > yeast and the sugar deprivation is not going down well! > > Thanks. > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.8.3/1746 - Release Date: 25/10/2008 17:55 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 , One more thing..... Yesterday I was talking to a bee keeper about getting Royal Jelly. She didn't have any but told me about the how great propolis was. It's the stuff bees use to glue their house together. I looked it up http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL & _udi=B6WP9-4D4D26P-2 & _user=1\ 0 & _rdoc=1 & _fmt= & _orig=search & _sort=d & view=c & _version=1 & _urlVersion=0 & _userid=10 & \ md5=6c0a96fd12ab83b53d498bf8001d90ed and it has some wonderful properties, definately in rats, in terms of regulating blood sugars. Also it increases HDL cholesterol and reduces malionaldehyde, the marker which measures the level of oxidative stress in an organism.My biochemist says when tis ios high, then your B6 is too low. My daughter in her worst times had twice over the level of ML. I am planning to get this fresh from a local bee hive. stephaniesirr schrieb: > > Stevia or xylitol. the latter sells in Sainsburys as " perfect sweet " x > > > > > > Hi, > > Can anyone suggest substitutes for sugar or any hints. We are fighting > > yeast and the sugar deprivation is not going down well! > > Thanks. > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.8.3/1746 - Release Date: 25/10/2008 17:55 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 , One more thing..... Yesterday I was talking to a bee keeper about getting Royal Jelly. She didn't have any but told me about the how great propolis was. It's the stuff bees use to glue their house together. I looked it up http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL & _udi=B6WP9-4D4D26P-2 & _user=1\ 0 & _rdoc=1 & _fmt= & _orig=search & _sort=d & view=c & _version=1 & _urlVersion=0 & _userid=10 & \ md5=6c0a96fd12ab83b53d498bf8001d90ed and it has some wonderful properties, definately in rats, in terms of regulating blood sugars. Also it increases HDL cholesterol and reduces malionaldehyde, the marker which measures the level of oxidative stress in an organism.My biochemist says when tis ios high, then your B6 is too low. My daughter in her worst times had twice over the level of ML. I am planning to get this fresh from a local bee hive. stephaniesirr schrieb: > > Stevia or xylitol. the latter sells in Sainsburys as " perfect sweet " x > > > > > > Hi, > > Can anyone suggest substitutes for sugar or any hints. We are fighting > > yeast and the sugar deprivation is not going down well! > > Thanks. > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.8.3/1746 - Release Date: 25/10/2008 17:55 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 Correction: <<biochemist says when maliondialdehyde is high then B6 levels are too low.>> JULIE GRIFFITHS schrieb: > > , > > One more thing..... > > Yesterday I was talking to a bee keeper about getting Royal Jelly. She > didn't have any but told me about the how great propolis was. It's the > stuff bees use to glue their house together. I looked it up > > http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL & _udi=B6WP9-4D4D26P-2 & _user=1\ 0 & _rdoc=1 & _fmt= & _orig=search & _sort=d & view=c & _version=1 & _urlVersion=0 & _userid=10 & \ md5=6c0a96fd12ab83b53d498bf8001d90ed > <http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL & _udi=B6WP9-4D4D26P-2 & _user=\ 10 & _rdoc=1 & _fmt= & _orig=search & _sort=d & view=c & _version=1 & _urlVersion=0 & _userid=10\ & md5=6c0a96fd12ab83b53d498bf8001d90ed> > > and it has some wonderful properties, definately in rats, in terms of > regulating blood sugars. Also it increases HDL cholesterol and reduces > malionaldehyde, the marker which measures the level of oxidative stress > in an organism.My biochemist says when tis ios high, then your B6 is too > low. My daughter in her worst times had twice over the level of ML. > > I am planning to get this fresh from a local bee hive. > > > > stephaniesirr schrieb: > > > > Stevia or xylitol. the latter sells in Sainsburys as " perfect sweet " x > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > Can anyone suggest substitutes for sugar or any hints. We are fighting > > > yeast and the sugar deprivation is not going down well! > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG. > > Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.8.3/1746 - Release Date: > 25/10/2008 17:55 > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.8.3/1746 - Release Date: 25/10/2008 17:55 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 Correction: <<biochemist says when maliondialdehyde is high then B6 levels are too low.>> JULIE GRIFFITHS schrieb: > > , > > One more thing..... > > Yesterday I was talking to a bee keeper about getting Royal Jelly. She > didn't have any but told me about the how great propolis was. It's the > stuff bees use to glue their house together. I looked it up > > http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL & _udi=B6WP9-4D4D26P-2 & _user=1\ 0 & _rdoc=1 & _fmt= & _orig=search & _sort=d & view=c & _version=1 & _urlVersion=0 & _userid=10 & \ md5=6c0a96fd12ab83b53d498bf8001d90ed > <http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL & _udi=B6WP9-4D4D26P-2 & _user=\ 10 & _rdoc=1 & _fmt= & _orig=search & _sort=d & view=c & _version=1 & _urlVersion=0 & _userid=10\ & md5=6c0a96fd12ab83b53d498bf8001d90ed> > > and it has some wonderful properties, definately in rats, in terms of > regulating blood sugars. Also it increases HDL cholesterol and reduces > malionaldehyde, the marker which measures the level of oxidative stress > in an organism.My biochemist says when tis ios high, then your B6 is too > low. My daughter in her worst times had twice over the level of ML. > > I am planning to get this fresh from a local bee hive. > > > > stephaniesirr schrieb: > > > > Stevia or xylitol. the latter sells in Sainsburys as " perfect sweet " x > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > Can anyone suggest substitutes for sugar or any hints. We are fighting > > > yeast and the sugar deprivation is not going down well! > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG. > > Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.8.3/1746 - Release Date: > 25/10/2008 17:55 > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.8.3/1746 - Release Date: 25/10/2008 17:55 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 Correction: <<biochemist says when maliondialdehyde is high then B6 levels are too low.>> JULIE GRIFFITHS schrieb: > > , > > One more thing..... > > Yesterday I was talking to a bee keeper about getting Royal Jelly. She > didn't have any but told me about the how great propolis was. It's the > stuff bees use to glue their house together. I looked it up > > http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL & _udi=B6WP9-4D4D26P-2 & _user=1\ 0 & _rdoc=1 & _fmt= & _orig=search & _sort=d & view=c & _version=1 & _urlVersion=0 & _userid=10 & \ md5=6c0a96fd12ab83b53d498bf8001d90ed > <http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL & _udi=B6WP9-4D4D26P-2 & _user=\ 10 & _rdoc=1 & _fmt= & _orig=search & _sort=d & view=c & _version=1 & _urlVersion=0 & _userid=10\ & md5=6c0a96fd12ab83b53d498bf8001d90ed> > > and it has some wonderful properties, definately in rats, in terms of > regulating blood sugars. Also it increases HDL cholesterol and reduces > malionaldehyde, the marker which measures the level of oxidative stress > in an organism.My biochemist says when tis ios high, then your B6 is too > low. My daughter in her worst times had twice over the level of ML. > > I am planning to get this fresh from a local bee hive. > > > > stephaniesirr schrieb: > > > > Stevia or xylitol. the latter sells in Sainsburys as " perfect sweet " x > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > Can anyone suggest substitutes for sugar or any hints. We are fighting > > > yeast and the sugar deprivation is not going down well! > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG. > > Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.8.3/1746 - Release Date: > 25/10/2008 17:55 > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.8.3/1746 - Release Date: 25/10/2008 17:55 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 , I've been trying to decide if I want to switch forms of chromium. From picolinate to polynicotinate. Have you looked into this? Thanks, Anita In Autism-Biomedical-Europe , JULIE GRIFFITHS wrote: > > , > > Maybe there's another way to tackle this. I know when I take chromium I > don't crave the morning cuppa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 I haven't heard about polynicotinate. I know that picolinate is the synthetic form. Pharmanord chromium is natural so I tend to use that. Cheers, Anita schrieb: > > , > > I've been trying to decide if I want to switch forms of chromium. From > picolinate to polynicotinate. Have you looked into this? > > Thanks, > > Anita > > In Autism-Biomedical-Europe > <mailto:Autism-Biomedical-Europe%40yahoogroups.com>, JULIE GRIFFITHS > wrote: > > > > , > > > > Maybe there's another way to tackle this. I know when I take chromium > I > > don't crave the morning cuppa > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.8.3/1746 - Release Date: 25/10/2008 17:55 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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