Re: feeding cows grains - chaff hay

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Chaff hay is excellent and if you can get any, do. I am planning to buy a half of a semi load this spring-money reasons. That is a lot for two goats, but the nutrients and the ease. It comes in heavy duty plastic bags, 50 lbs.No wasted feed and storage is a dream. You open the stuff and most animals will climb the fence to get it. I fed it to horses first and had to take them entirely off grain, just good coastal and 2-3 lb. of chaff hay a day. I was roping on my gelding and jumping on the mare. More for the mare than gelding,appy and foundation QH.I have been able to get some for the goats,one bag.They love it, I don't have to feed grain with my milker, but I have to buy by the semi. So that kinda puts me back a pretty penny. My Nubain milker puts a gallon a day in the bucket, so you can see why I like feeding it. I can't wait to get everybody on it again.You need to keep it in a tight container and feed a bag within a week in the summer.The flies really like it. It is some of the strangest looking stuff when you first open it. The alfalfa is dark and it smells so good, from the molasses. There is a white yeasty looking material all over it. I flipped out when I saw this, called the guy who makes it in El Paso, he explained that it is yeast. I had to do some more research and had it tested and it was beneficial. It aids the absorbtion of nutrients,helps the animals realize full usage of the feed. So if you try it,but be prepared lol,its kind of differant. I sent the sample to A & M, they are the best,speedy and explain everything in simple terms over the phone.Please forgive the length and I am not trying to sell the stuff,just one of the few things I have had really good experainces with.

Thanks in Tx

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I have seen the operations outside of El Paso.The alfalfa is cut so young it is not sprayed.It is cut at between 12-15 inches.Then it is sprayed with a mixture of cane syrup,molasses and bewers yeast.Then it is left to ferment ?,lack of better words,for fourteen days.This breaks it down,kind of like the digestion process.This is what enables the gut to use the hay entirely,no waste.The molasses doesn't make the animals hot like grain, I think it has to with the fermentation. Its been a while since I did in-depth reading on it. I have used it with my goats, could only get a few bags, it worked great. I stopped using grain entirely on all my animals, even the milker. I can give you the mans name and number if you would like more info.Floyd is more than happy to send the info and chat over the phone. I have had great results with it. It is blister beetle free. I will try to find the literature and send it if you would like.

in TX

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I have a friend who has been raising dairy goats for years and years and she feeds grain with molasses to them and has for years. But, she won't sell the milk, have a share program or anything because she is an old timer and goes strickly by the law here. She drinks it and makes ice cream, etc. and has no problem with it, but feeds it back to the kids her goats have each year. The goats are shown in 4H by her grand kids. She's down to a few now because the grandkids have lost some interest, but still has some and has always raised the little Pigmy goats as well. They all get grain with molasses.

K.C.

RE: feeding cows grains - chaff hay

Have you been able to find any info about the possible spraying of the alfalfa crop for chaff hay? I have been concerned about that. Also, the molasses content I was a bit concerned about. How does that seem to work with the goats?

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From: ballardpaint@... Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 7:00 PMTo: RawDairy Subject: Re: feeding cows grains - chaff hay

Chaff hay is excellent and if you can get any, do. I am planning to buy a half of a semi load this spring-money reasons. That is a lot for two goats, but the nutrients and the ease. It comes in heavy duty plastic bags, 50 lbs.No wasted feed and storage is a dream. You open the stuff and most animals will climb the fence to get it. I fed it to horses first and had to take them entirely off grain, just good coastal and 2-3 lb. of chaff hay a day. I was roping on my gelding and jumping on the mare. More for the mare than gelding,appy and foundation QH.I have been able to get some for the goats,one bag.They love it, I don't have to feed grain with my milker, but I have to buy by the semi. So that kinda puts me back a pretty penny. My Nubain milker puts a gallon a day in the bucket, so you can see why I like feeding it. I can't wait to get everybody on it again.You need to keep it in a tight container and feed a bag within a week in the summer.The flies really like it. It is some of the strangest looking stuff when you first open it. The alfalfa is dark and it smells so good, from the molasses. There is a white yeasty looking material all over it. I flipped out when I saw this, called the guy who makes it in El Paso, he explained that it is yeast. I had to do some more research and had it tested and it was beneficial. It aids the absorbtion of nutrients,helps the animals realize full usage of the feed. So if you try it,but be prepared lol,its kind of differant. I sent the sample to A & M, they are the best,speedy and explain everything in simple terms over the phone.Please forgive the length and I am not trying to sell the stuff,just one of the few things I have had really good experainces with.

Thanks in Tx

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[Guest guest]

Have you been able to find any info about

the possible spraying of the alfalfa crop for chaff hay? I have been concerned

about that. Also, the molasses content I was a bit concerned about. How does

that seem to work with the goats?

www.MajestyFarm.com

It must be obvious that liberty necessarily means freedom to

choose foolishly as well as wisely; freedom to choose evil as well as good;

freedom to enjoy the rewards of good judgment, and freedom to suffer the

penalties of bad judgment. If this is not true, the word " freedom "

has no meaning. – Ben Moreell

From: ballardpaint@...

Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004

7:00 PM

To: RawDairy

Subject: Re: feeding

cows grains - chaff hay

Chaff

hay is excellent and if you can get any, do. I am planning to buy a half of a

semi load this spring-money reasons. That is a lot for two goats, but the

nutrients and the ease. It comes in heavy duty plastic bags, 50 lbs.No wasted

feed and storage is a dream. You open the stuff and most animals will climb the

fence to get it. I fed it to horses first and had to take them entirely off

grain, just good coastal and 2-3 lb. of chaff hay a day. I was roping on

my gelding and jumping on the mare. More for the mare than gelding,appy and

foundation QH.I have been able to get some for the goats,one bag.They love it,

I don't have to feed grain with my milker, but I have to buy by the semi. So

that kinda puts me back a pretty penny. My Nubain milker puts a gallon a day in

the bucket, so you can see why I like feeding it. I can't wait to get everybody

on it again.You need to keep it in a tight container and feed a bag within a

week in the summer.The flies really like it. It is some of the strangest

looking stuff when you first open it. The alfalfa is dark and it smells so

good, from the molasses. There is a white yeasty looking material all over it.

I flipped out when I saw this, called the guy who makes it in El Paso, he explained that it is yeast. I had

to do some more research and had it tested and it was beneficial. It aids the

absorbtion of nutrients,helps the animals realize full usage of the

feed. So if you try it,but be prepared lol,its kind of differant. I sent

the sample to A & M, they are the best,speedy and explain everything in

simple terms over the phone.Please forgive the length and I am not trying to

sell the stuff,just one of the few things I have had really good experainces

with.

Thanks

in Tx

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