Re: reliable sources for raw milk info & reasons to drink raw

[Guest guest]

Hi, Bev!

Ultimately, I've discovered, people are going to believe pretty

much what they want to believe, whether it's on the web, or handed

down from on high on stone tablets... But, I empathize with, and

cheer on, your efforts! :-)

The Weston A. Price Foundation has a website --

http://www.westonaprice.org -- but they also have a print journal,

" Wise Traditions, " and various other print resources, and

can point you to some excellent ones. Ditto the Price-Pottenger

Nutritional Foundation (http://www.price-pottenger.org/): Pottenger

was the one whose cat studies first sounded the alert that raw milk,

a " live " food, had more nutritional value than pasteurized

milk, a " dead " food. The " classic " texts are Dr.

Price's _Nutrition and Physical Degradation_, and _Pottenger's Cats:

A Study in Nutrition_, by Francis M. Pottenger, Jr., MD.

A couple of recent books I've found particularly helpful are

_Nourishing Traditions_, by Sally Fallon, _The Untold Story of Milk_,

by Ron Schmidt, ND, and _Keeping a Family Cow_, by Joann S. Grohman.

Fallon's and Schmidt's books, in particular, do a wonderful job or

summarizing (and citing) the relevant science. I've also heard that

, MD's _The Milk Book_ is excellent (and I've

seen quotes from it in other works), but haven't read it myself.

Hope this helps! :-)

Tom

At 8:03 PM -0700 12/29/04, Beverly wrote:

A grassfed beef seller is asking me for "reliable

sources" as to the information on raw milk vs. pasteurized.

He doesn't see why raw would be any better than pasteurized organic

milk. I pulled up some info on the web and sent it to him, but

not sure he's buying it because anyone can put anything on the web

and call it fact. Does anyone have any idea on where I could

get a hold of studies or more reliable info on the benefits of raw

milk? I am not doing a very good job on my own here, and could

use some help!

Thanks!

Bev

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[Guest guest]

Hi, Bev!

Ultimately, I've discovered, people are going to believe pretty

much what they want to believe, whether it's on the web, or handed

down from on high on stone tablets... But, I empathize with, and

cheer on, your efforts! :-)

The Weston A. Price Foundation has a website --

http://www.westonaprice.org -- but they also have a print journal,

" Wise Traditions, " and various other print resources, and

can point you to some excellent ones. Ditto the Price-Pottenger

Nutritional Foundation (http://www.price-pottenger.org/): Pottenger

was the one whose cat studies first sounded the alert that raw milk,

a " live " food, had more nutritional value than pasteurized

milk, a " dead " food. The " classic " texts are Dr.

Price's _Nutrition and Physical Degradation_, and _Pottenger's Cats:

A Study in Nutrition_, by Francis M. Pottenger, Jr., MD.

A couple of recent books I've found particularly helpful are

_Nourishing Traditions_, by Sally Fallon, _The Untold Story of Milk_,

by Ron Schmidt, ND, and _Keeping a Family Cow_, by Joann S. Grohman.

Fallon's and Schmidt's books, in particular, do a wonderful job or

summarizing (and citing) the relevant science. I've also heard that

, MD's _The Milk Book_ is excellent (and I've

seen quotes from it in other works), but haven't read it myself.

Hope this helps! :-)

Tom

At 8:03 PM -0700 12/29/04, Beverly wrote:

A grassfed beef seller is asking me for "reliable

sources" as to the information on raw milk vs. pasteurized.

He doesn't see why raw would be any better than pasteurized organic

milk. I pulled up some info on the web and sent it to him, but

not sure he's buying it because anyone can put anything on the web

and call it fact. Does anyone have any idea on where I could

get a hold of studies or more reliable info on the benefits of raw

milk? I am not doing a very good job on my own here, and could

use some help!

Thanks!

Bev

PLEASE BE KIND AND TRIM YOUR POSTS WHEN REPLYING!

Visit our Raw Dairy Files for a wealth of information!

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RawDairy/files/

Yahoo! Groups

Sponsor

ADVERTISEMENT

[Guest guest]

[bev] A grassfed beef seller is asking me for " reliable sources " as

to the information on raw milk vs. pasteurized. He doesn't see why

raw would be any better than pasteurized organic milk. I pulled up

some info on the web and sent it to him, but not sure he's buying it

because anyone can put anything on the web and call it fact. Does

anyone have any idea on where I could get a hold of studies or more

reliable info on the benefits of raw milk? I am not doing a very good

job on my own here, and could use some help!

[MAP] Just lend him your copy of _Untold_. Problem solved. Done.

(As far as the other books Tom mentioned, due to various serious flaws

in content and style, the book is **NOT** a

good alternative for introducing someone to the topic, even though

it's worth reading for knowledgeable folks with a dedicated interest

in the topic once they've read the better stuff like _Untold_. NT

contains virtually no content that could be used specifically to

defend or promote raw milk.)

Mike

SE Pennsylvania

The best way to predict the future is to invent it. --Alan Kay

[Guest guest]

[bev] A grassfed beef seller is asking me for " reliable sources " as

to the information on raw milk vs. pasteurized. He doesn't see why

raw would be any better than pasteurized organic milk. I pulled up

some info on the web and sent it to him, but not sure he's buying it

because anyone can put anything on the web and call it fact. Does

anyone have any idea on where I could get a hold of studies or more

reliable info on the benefits of raw milk? I am not doing a very good

job on my own here, and could use some help!

[MAP] Just lend him your copy of _Untold_. Problem solved. Done.

(As far as the other books Tom mentioned, due to various serious flaws

in content and style, the book is **NOT** a

good alternative for introducing someone to the topic, even though

it's worth reading for knowledgeable folks with a dedicated interest

in the topic once they've read the better stuff like _Untold_. NT

contains virtually no content that could be used specifically to

defend or promote raw milk.)

Mike

SE Pennsylvania

The best way to predict the future is to invent it. --Alan Kay

[Guest guest]

[bev] A grassfed beef seller is asking me for " reliable sources " as

to the information on raw milk vs. pasteurized. He doesn't see why

raw would be any better than pasteurized organic milk. I pulled up

some info on the web and sent it to him, but not sure he's buying it

because anyone can put anything on the web and call it fact. Does

anyone have any idea on where I could get a hold of studies or more

reliable info on the benefits of raw milk? I am not doing a very good

job on my own here, and could use some help!

[MAP] Just lend him your copy of _Untold_. Problem solved. Done.

(As far as the other books Tom mentioned, due to various serious flaws

in content and style, the book is **NOT** a

good alternative for introducing someone to the topic, even though

it's worth reading for knowledgeable folks with a dedicated interest

in the topic once they've read the better stuff like _Untold_. NT

contains virtually no content that could be used specifically to

defend or promote raw milk.)

Mike

SE Pennsylvania

The best way to predict the future is to invent it. --Alan Kay

[Guest guest]

Did you give him the www.real-milk.com site to check out? I know a lot of people here have more sites to peruse.

K.C.

reliable sources for raw milk info & reasons to drink raw

A grassfed beef seller is asking me for “reliable sources” as to the information on raw milk vs. pasteurized. He doesn’t see why raw would be any better than pasteurized organic milk. I pulled up some info on the web and sent it to him, but not sure he’s buying it because anyone can put anything on the web and call it fact. Does anyone have any idea on where I could get a hold of studies or more reliable info on the benefits of raw milk? I am not doing a very good job on my own here, and could use some help!

Thanks!

BevPLEASE BE KIND AND TRIM YOUR POSTS WHEN REPLYING!Visit our Raw Dairy Files for a wealth of information!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RawDairy/files/

[Guest guest]

Did you give him the www.real-milk.com site to check out? I know a lot of people here have more sites to peruse.

K.C.

reliable sources for raw milk info & reasons to drink raw

A grassfed beef seller is asking me for “reliable sources” as to the information on raw milk vs. pasteurized. He doesn’t see why raw would be any better than pasteurized organic milk. I pulled up some info on the web and sent it to him, but not sure he’s buying it because anyone can put anything on the web and call it fact. Does anyone have any idea on where I could get a hold of studies or more reliable info on the benefits of raw milk? I am not doing a very good job on my own here, and could use some help!

Thanks!

BevPLEASE BE KIND AND TRIM YOUR POSTS WHEN REPLYING!Visit our Raw Dairy Files for a wealth of information!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RawDairy/files/

[Guest guest]

Quoting Anton :

> [MAP] Just lend him your copy of _Untold_. Problem solved. Done.

>

> (As far as the other books Tom mentioned, due to various serious flaws

> in content and style, the book is **NOT** a

> good alternative for introducing someone to the topic, even though

> it's worth reading for knowledgeable folks with a dedicated interest

> in the topic once they've read the better stuff like _Untold_.

Thanks for the elaborate/caution, Mike.

> NT

> contains virtually no content that could be used specifically to

> defend or promote raw milk.)

Largely true. I was thinking more in terms of its use as a resource in general

-- there are a lot of works cited therein that might be applicable. I agree

that _The Untold Story of Milk_ covers all the bases, and that in a very

readable style. Say, is Dr. Ron still on this list? I seem to recall that he

was, over the summer... he might have some other specifics to add.

Tom