Guest guest Posted November 6, 2004 Report Share Posted November 6, 2004 Danna-- The person who needed to be muscle-tested was the Child, not the mother, as he's the one having the reaction. Mom already has an excellent diet that's working for her, so I'm betting something minor is the culprit. I know she's breastfeeding, but the DO could have tested both to see if there was a difference, as I strongly suspect there was. Not all muscle-testing is accurate, and here is one good reason why, esp when they then make the kind of recommendation they did. Testing gives lots of raw data, but not what that data means. The baby, being so young is very sensitive to everything. We know the crying can't be teething at 7 weeks. In years past, mothers were encouraged to keep their babies home until it could develop an immune system. My own mother goes nuts when she sees small babies being dragged through the mall at Christmas time. There is a connection to allergens, odors and food reactions we do not fully understand. I just read that Odors of an allergenic food being cooked registered in a sensitive person as strongly as if they'd eaten it!!! That being the case, I'd check what is coming into the baby's nostrils too. It may not be as obvious as some idiot blowing cigarette smoke into a baby's face. Preston/ Travolta's son reacted badly on laundry day. If it were something like a minor gas leak, everyone would be having Symptoms. How food is combined modulates how the body reacts to a mild allergen, and this may be your clue in the mother. I would react to a food tested alone, but put the full dinner plate up to be tested, and all was well. It is assimilated in the body as a Complex, and needs to be treated as such. If not, all our diets and food combining mean nothing. Something in the mother's diet or the home environment is not sitting well with the infant, and you need to figure out what that is. If for some reason you cannot get the milk to work right now, there are other ways to nourish such a sensitive child, such as Sally Fallon's babyfood recipes. Dare I suggest that Vaccines may be playing some sort of a role here too? Raw Milk and Vaccines are often a reactive combo. Be a detective before taking the DO's advice as the only possible answer. And if you ever figure it out, please let us know so we all can learn from it. --Terry Re: Friend w/Colicky Baby! Please Help! I could not drink cafinated coffee or my nursed babies would cry a lot. One of my sons is an insomniac from birth, being up 14 hrs of 24 was not unusual, he still is an insomniac but it's useful now. All 3 of my kids were the only kindergarteners who had a 10 pm bed time & woke at 6 am and could not understand the need of naps. Did she try regular old stuff like giving the baby a pacifier?My kids were all different, they made the rules as to what they needed not me, or ideals, or fantasies, or society. One really needed a pacifier, it was a godsend.I never let my babies cry without trying to comfort them in some way. I lived, they all turned out fine. I think raw mothers milk is the most important food for babies. After that I found that raw soft fresh banana helped them sleep. -sally l > > My friend has a 7 week old and just a couple weeks ago he began to > cry unconsolably for long periods of time. She is a WAPF member and > a member of our farm club so she's been eating raw grass fed dairy, > cream, butter....even kefir!! She went to an "alternative" DO who > muscle tested her with the raw milk and she did come up sensitive to > it. The Dr. recommended she completely eliminate all dairy until > the baby is 6 months old!! She has had problems in the past with > dairy sensitivity but we thought she had it whipped with the raw > dairy. She takes cod liver oil....eats organic....I just can't > figure it out. I feel so bad for her. Does anyone have any input > or advice?? I hate to see her baby miss out on the benefits of the > raw dairy. Is it possible that some people just can't do dairy at > all?? Thanks in advance for your input!!> Danna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2004 Report Share Posted November 6, 2004 Dear Danna, I agree with Terry that the infant should be muscled tested as well. Is the infant having only his/her mother's milk? Also, is the mother drinking raw cow's milk? Perhaps the mother could try raw goat's milk and see if the infant reacts differently. Often those that can't drink cow's milk can drink goat's milk. I have a personal anecdote and suggestion for the colicky baby. When my children were born, if I had it to do all over again, I'd always have a midwife and homebirths. Back then, I did not think I had the means to pay for a midwife and homebirth, having medical insurance which fully covered hospital births. With my second child I did hire my midwife to attend as labor support. Thankfully she was there to witness the traumatic delivery my son experienced. My doctor, in his hurry to *deliver* my child, took hold of his tiny head and proceeded to pull and twist and wrench in a figure 8 motion, trying to remove him quickly from my birth canal. In his defense, he thought he was doing his best to prevent my having to have a c-section. At any rate, my midwife suggested we have our newborn son adjusted by a chiropractor. I was leery of such practices and did not heed her advice -- at least not right away. When my son was just one week old, he began to cry inconsolably for hours on end. I walked, rocked, bounced, sang, nursed him -- until he puked from a too full belly -- around the clock. He was only able to sleep for a few minutes at a time before he'd wake up crying again. Finally I could take it no longer and called my midwife begging for the number of her chiropractor. My husband and I took our baby son to the chiropractor and had him adjusted. Due to the pulling on his head, his neck was badly misaligned and the chiropractor just pressed gently with her fingers. My son fell to sleep within minutes, and proceeded to sleep soundly for the next three hours. It was a miracle to us. He continued to need regular adjustments. We went in every Monday, Wednesday and Friday. He seemed to do best on every other day adjustments and would be happy and sleep well. But once Sunday arrived, he would begin to fuss again and couldn't sleep. With the Monday adjustment he was fine again. My youngest sister has had three homebirths with the same midwife in attendance each time. I was also present at his birth and it was as gentle as one would expect. However, at a few weeks of age he also began crying inconsolably. My sister was seeing a chiropractor intermittently, who is also our mother's chiropractor. They took the baby in to be adjusted and he also stopped crying and fussing, and turned into a different baby altogether. I would advise this dear sweet mother to try having her infant adjusted in hopes that she experiences the same relief that we did. Best of luck, Starlene Re: Re: Friend w/Colicky Baby! Please Help! Danna-- The person who needed to be muscle-tested was the Child, not the mother, as he's the one having the reaction. Mom already has an excellent diet that's working for her, so I'm betting something minor is the culprit. I know she's breastfeeding, but the DO could have tested both to see if there was a difference, as I strongly suspect there was. Not all muscle-testing is accurate, and here is one good reason why, esp when Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2004 Report Share Posted November 6, 2004 Danna, My second child was allergic to milk at birth. He eventually did out grow it, but at five weeks had a sever reaction. I nursed him and left him with my mom to go grocery shopping. Now remember, he is five ‘weeks’; I left her with 12 ounces of breast milk. She did not nurse us and has not been the best supporter of me nursing the babies. When I came home two hours later she was so proud as she had fed him all 12 ounces of my milk plus 6 ounces of formula. I hit the roof. The next thing I know he is projectile vomiting (no surprise there) and then stopped breathing. He spent five days in the hospital. He was constantly sick after that with cold symptoms. At six months I took him to another doctor who reviewed his entire history and said, I think he is simply allergic to milk. Cut out all milk and see if he gets better after two weeks. Then reintroduce it and see what happens. Long story short: he only had problems when I had milk! So, for the next 18 months, I gave up ALL milk and that means reading every package, inquiring at restaurants, etc. It was not fun, but I would do it all over again for him! My fourth son was what the old timers called colicky. At about five to six weeks of age, he started crying and NOTHING could console him! It was horrible! If he had been my first…he would have been my last! I could never relate to other people who had crying babies…I now could! I tried diet; I tried everything and anything; nothing worked. He just cried. I finally got a swing and he liked that and started to live in it! Maybe a swing will help. I just think some babies are like that. I also noticed what Terry said about vaccines. If she is having her baby vaccinated, encourage her to research these vaccines and not follow the other sheep off the cliff. My fourth child, the crier had his two weeks and two months shots and maybe his four months, but that is it. I had by that time seen to many things not right with him. He is perfectly healthy and normal, but he did not handle the vaccinations like his brothers and I do believe he is healthy because we stopped the vaccinations. My fifth son has had no vaccinations and won’t. I’m not sure if this is helpful information. I guess I’m just saying all babies are different and you may never know what the cause is. Encourage her to do her best and just love and hold that little one even when it seems not to help. in N. Fl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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