Guest guest Posted October 23, 2004 Report Share Posted October 23, 2004 So does freezing raw milk kill microbes or destroy enzymes? Simple answer. NO. ............................ Totally agree here. I make my cheese, soap and lotion with raw frozen milk, December through March when the does are dry. Certainly you would see some difference in the cheese if freezing did anything to the milk, we even freeze plain chevre. The butterfat in the milk does freeze at a different temp than the solids, so a whisking them back together is needed, not seen as much in breeds with lower butterfat, but my customers love the convienence of purchasing frozen milk every several months than the long treck to the woods to purchase fresh milk weekly. With all things on the internet, better to listen to folks who are actually doing things than the anit-this or that lists. Take the microwave article, one of their points is that Russia has banned them...nonsense, microwave ovens are alive and well. So if one point in their article is false, makes you wonder what else is. I am not much of a band wagon jumper! Vicki Vicki McGaugh Lonesome Doe Nubians 1986 NUBIAN SOAPS, Goats Milk, Soaps, Lotion, Soy Candles, etc.. North of Houston Texas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2004 Report Share Posted October 23, 2004 I freeze the milk from my goat as well, and because I only have one, it takes me a while to get enough to make a day of cheese making worth while. I talked to this really nice Nigerian Dwarf breeder at a goat show this summer, And I was complaining about the separation of the milk after freezing, you know how it gets watery, and she said to put it in the blender for just a few seconds. Viola! perfect just like before you froze it goat milk. Lovely and creamy and delicious. Before I learned to blend it(just a tad), I didn't even bother trying to drink the defrosted milk. Now I have high hopes for this years dry season. Has anyone tried to ship frozen milk, can it work? Kim > So does freezing raw milk kill microbes or destroy enzymes? Simple answer. > NO. > ........................... > > Totally agree here. I make my cheese, soap and lotion with raw frozen milk, > December through March when the does are dry. Certainly you would see some > difference in the cheese if freezing did anything to the milk, we even > freeze plain chevre. The butterfat in the milk does freeze at a different > temp than the solids, so a whisking them back together is needed, not seen > as much in breeds with lower butterfat, but my customers love the > convienence of purchasing frozen milk every several months than the long > treck to the woods to purchase fresh milk weekly. > > With all things on the internet, better to listen to folks who are actually > doing things than the anit-this or that lists. Take the microwave article, > one of their points is that Russia has banned them...nonsense, microwave > ovens are alive and well. So if one point in their article is false, makes > you wonder what else is. I am not much of a band wagon jumper! Vicki > > > > Vicki McGaugh > Lonesome Doe Nubians 1986 > NUBIAN SOAPS, Goats Milk, > Soaps, Lotion, Soy Candles, etc.. > North of Houston Texas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 I leave it out on the counter till it's not all the way defrosted and then put it in the veggie crisper to keep it nice. It's frozen and kept in a Ziplock freezer bag. I've never had mine crumble, not even the colby or any of the cheese I make or have bought. But, just thinking about this, maybe it has something to do with humidity? We have a very low humidity level, even in the winter, except for when it snows or rains. Maybe that has something to do with it. K.C. Re: Re: Freezing Milk At 07:36 AM 12/10/04 -0700, you wrote:>I beg to differ with you on this. I have no problem with freezing cow'smilk or cheddar cheese. I think it's in the defrost method as to how itturns out once thawed.> >K.C.>K.C. - How do you defrost the cheddar? I freeze cheddar all the time,knowing all the while that it will be a lot more crumbly afterward.Huh - that reminds me of something else. Uh oh, 's gonna post again!MFJPutting it in our hands gives us so much hope. ~C. MasterjohnPLEASE BE KIND AND TRIM YOUR POSTS WHEN REPLYING!Visit our Raw Dairy Files for a wealth of information!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RawDairy/files/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 You have not found cheddar to be more crumbly when frozen and thawed? When I know I am going to want crumbles I do it on purpose. Also, sour cream and cream cheese do not seem to handle the freeze/thaw cycle well. How do you generally thaw your milk? www.MajestyFarm.com It must be obvious that liberty necessarily means freedom to choose foolishly as well as wisely; freedom to choose evil as well as good; freedom to enjoy the rewards of good judgment, and freedom to suffer the penalties of bad judgment. If this is not true, the word " freedom " has no meaning. – Ben Moreell From: Tinybabe Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 6:36 AM To: RawDairy Subject: Re: Re: Freezing Milk I beg to differ with you on this. I have no problem with freezing cow's milk or cheddar cheese. I think it's in the defrost method as to how it turns out once thawed. K.C. Re: Freezing Milk > > Does freezing milk destroy the enzymes in the milk or alter any of the > beneficial properties? > > Thanks > Chas Chas, Freezing raw milk destroys none of the enzymes in raw milk, nor does it alter any of the beneficial properties. Previously frozen raw milk will still clabber (meaning all the bacteria are still happy) and raw milk is still easily digestible by lactose intolerant people, meaning all of the enzymes are still intact. Make sense? :-) PLEASE BE KIND AND TRIM YOUR POSTS WHEN REPLYING! Visit our Raw Dairy Files for a wealth of information! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RawDairy/files/ PLEASE BE KIND AND TRIM YOUR POSTS WHEN REPLYING! Visit our Raw Dairy Files for a wealth of information! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RawDairy/files/ PLEASE BE KIND AND TRIM YOUR POSTS WHEN REPLYING! Visit our Raw Dairy Files for a wealth of information! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RawDairy/files/ PLEASE BE KIND AND TRIM YOUR POSTS WHEN REPLYING! Visit our Raw Dairy Files for a wealth of information! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RawDairy/files/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 Could be. We are generally very humid here. Maybe I will try some in winter and see. www.MajestyFarm.com It must be obvious that liberty necessarily means freedom to choose foolishly as well as wisely; freedom to choose evil as well as good; freedom to enjoy the rewards of good judgment, and freedom to suffer the penalties of bad judgment. If this is not true, the word " freedom " has no meaning. – Ben Moreell From: Tinybabe Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 11:26 AM To: RawDairy Subject: Re: Re: Freezing Milk Yahoo! Groups Survey Please help us to improve Yahoo! Groups. Take the survey now! I leave it out on the counter till it's not all the way defrosted and then put it in the veggie crisper to keep it nice. It's frozen and kept in a Ziplock freezer bag. I've never had mine crumble, not even the colby or any of the cheese I make or have bought. But, just thinking about this, maybe it has something to do with humidity? We have a very low humidity level, even in the winter, except for when it snows or rains. Maybe that has something to do with it. K.C. Re: Re: Freezing Milk At 07:36 AM 12/10/04 -0700, you wrote: >I beg to differ with you on this. I have no problem with freezing cow's milk or cheddar cheese. I think it's in the defrost method as to how it turns out once thawed. > >K.C. > K.C. - How do you defrost the cheddar? I freeze cheddar all the time, knowing all the while that it will be a lot more crumbly afterward. Huh - that reminds me of something else. Uh oh, 's gonna post again! MFJ Putting it in our hands gives us so much hope. ~C. Masterjohn PLEASE BE KIND AND TRIM YOUR POSTS WHEN REPLYING! Visit our Raw Dairy Files for a wealth of information! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RawDairy/files/ PLEASE BE KIND AND TRIM YOUR POSTS WHEN REPLYING! Visit our Raw Dairy Files for a wealth of information! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RawDairy/files/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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