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nickel (and perhaps some other?)

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My oldest son has braces, and I was just thinking about all the metal in his

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I have had a permanent metal retainer in my mouth for years now (about

20) and I am convinced it is giving me metal poisoning. I am having it

out next month. I started with TMJ about 3 years after having my

braces off. I have pain radiating from the area of my jaw where the

retainer is all the time.

There is someone else on the loop that is nickel poisoined. I'm not

sure from what.

I will ask the ortho when I have the retainer out - let me know if you

want to know the answer (I'll try to remember).

Truly,

a

> My oldest son has braces, and I was just thinking about all the

metal in his

> mouth. Does anyone know what kind of metal it is, and is there any

danger

> from it?

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> S.

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It should be OK if you have no residual amalgam and are not sensitive

to nickel.

Chelation may sensitize you to nickel and require the braces be

removed, but I think this is not that likely. There is no good

information on this possibility to get statistics from.

Andy . . . . . . . ..

> I was wondering if anyone on the board has braces on their teeth and

> are also chelating. I have discovered I have high levels of mercury

> (previous amalgams) lead and arsenic and would like to get rid of

> them. I have also just had braces put on my teeth and was wondering

> if it is safe to chelate.

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> Thanks,

>

> Tina

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Jack,

According to Hal Huggins in IT'S ALL IN YOUR HEAD, getting braces is

introducing a different kind of metal to your mouth to interact with

silver amalgams. It is only a problem if you are allergic to nickel

or if you have other metals in your mouth.

After some of my dental procedures, especially where they were using

a device to place the braces I often felt a little charge in my

mouth almost akin to licking a battery and my lips twitched or

quivered involuntarily.

E.

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> >... Then in 1998, I got braces. I wore them

> >for an extended period, 6 years. ...

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Many orthodontists move the teeth too fast, breaking off the roots. My older

brother and I both had " buck " teeth (upper front) and had braces as teens for

about 2 years. X-rays show that the roots are broken off our upper front teeth.

This is quite common. Every dentist I've been to since (I've moved a lot) sees

the x-rays and says, " Oh, you had braces " . I wrote to the Association of

Orthodontists to complain. The letter they sent in response said they know it

happens all the time and don't really care. I think they figure patients and

patient's families wouldn't go through with it if it took more than 2 years, so

they just don't bother explaining the importance of going slower (for some

people).

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The metal ones are typically stainless steel. Please also be aware that many

orthodontists move upper front teeth too fast, breaking off the roots. This

happened to my older brother and I. Every dentist who has seen x-rays since

replies, " Oh, you had braces! " so it's not uncommon. I wrote to the Assoc of

Orthodontist and complained and they wrote back saying more of less, " Yes, we

know and don't plan to do anything about it. " Argh!

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my 9 year old will be needing braces. I am concerned about the<BR>

material they will use? any recommendations on what to use?<BR>

thanks<BR>

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Randi,

I know that the combined opinion is " no big deal' for stainless steel

BUT... Our daughter went through years of spacer bar/braces and

developmental delays that went from bad to worse, including all the

nasty symptoms of metal poisoning: migraines, seizures, lack of

feeling in hands and feet, off the wall pain tolerance, horrible bowel

function etc. It was not until 2000 that I discovered the mercury

connection. She was 15 and by this time had only a removable retainer

in her mouth. Her first testing showed very high urine/hair levels of

nickel and chromium. Our orthodontist inquired about the content of

the stainless steel braces and retainer wires - almost 10% nickel and

almost 20% chromium. I don't view this as a coincidence and would NOT

ever do the braces thing again. I had the metal removed in the

retainer - she needs the aappliance for cosmetic reasons as she lost 2

front teeth in an accident. I also had her NT brother's 'permanent'

retainer removed and his teeth are 'crooked' again. Better crooked

teeth that toxic brain! IMO B.

> Are braces going to be a problem?

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> Thanks Randi

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I don't know what's available today for brace material, but I'm really

glad I didn't get braces when I was a kid because the added toxic

metals and galvanic reactions with my 16 fillings probably would have

KILLED me (that's a guess from someone who has been studying amalgam

illness and root canals etc with relation to health problems for,

well, a long time..)

There are probably much better materials now, and if there are no

other toxic metals in the mouth, then it might be ok..(?)

-m

> Are braces going to be a problem?

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> Thanks Randi

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Hi! My 13 yr old daughter has braces on top for about 3 yrs now.. and she has spacers on the bottom also now to get ready for bottom braces.. usually childrens motrin works.. ice pops..we just try and explain to her.. that it is something that she needs..so she can have a healthy beautiful smile.. now getting her to brush her teeth well.. that`s a whole nuther story! ugh!

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maryann

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Hi! My 10 year old has to get braces and today they put rubber band spacer things (sorry I forgot the correct name for them) in his back teeth for preperation. It's the first day (hopefully it will be less annoying as time goes on) and he is begging to be allowed to take them out. I offered pain medication but he says it doesn't hurt it's just very annoying. Anyone have to deal with this or have any suggestions to make it more accepting for him?

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I know the feeling very well. I had braces as an adult and almost

ripped my own spacers out. It feels like you have a large piece of

meat stuck in between your teeth...very annoying...and it hurts.

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I know the feeling very well. I had braces as an adult and almost

ripped my own spacers out. It feels like you have a large piece of

meat stuck in between your teeth...very annoying...and it hurts.

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My daughter has had two sets of braces. The first set was extremely hard for her, she complained about pain when she got the spacers, when they tightened the wires, when her cheeks were rubbed by the metal. I always listened and checked the complaint carefully. Although she is ultra sensitive compared to most other children with braces, many of her complaints were due to a problem with the braces that needed to be fixed. I made sure she brushed well and rinsed with mouthwash. If her cheeks felt at all uncomfortable I made sure she put the wax on the braces. If she complained of pain I checked her braces carefully. Twice the wire had actually came out of the holders and once, the day after an appointment, her gums were so swollen (braces were tightened too quickly) that she was crying. I made an emergency appointment to have them loosened up. I requested that her treatment be more gradual, which the orthodontist has

done. This has worked out for her. I explained to the orthodontist at the beginning of treatment that she was extremely sensitive and he has been very good about taking his time with her. I talked to my daughter before each appointment to warn her that after the braces are tightened she may be uncomfortable for day or so. But if she had pain for more than say, half a day, I called the orthodontist. I hope some of this helps. W

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I have a problem with brushing her teeth. She does not want to do it! The orthodontist keeps threatening to remove the braces. She had a few good reports about brushing but not last month. She also has a malocclusion (tooth stuck way up high inside her gum). She had to go to the oral surgeon and he had to wrap a gold chain around it and the orthodontist has to work on that bringing that tooth down and out. That is very painful for her. But if it's not moved, it could affect her bone.

Now she wants contacts but I told her not until she can take care of her teeth!

Deb

In a message dated 10/8/2007 2:39:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, aspmom11@... writes:

My daughter has had two sets of braces. The first set was extremely hard for her, she complained about pain when she got the spacers, when they tightened the wires, when her cheeks were rubbed by the metal. I always listened and checked the complaint carefully. Although she is ultra sensitive compared to most other children with braces, many of her complaints were due to a problem with the braces that needed to be fixed. I made sure she brushed well and rinsed with mouthwash. If her cheeks felt at all uncomfortable I made sure she put the wax on the braces. If she complained of pain I checked her braces carefully. Twice the wire had actually came out of the holders and once, the day after an appointment, her gums were so swollen (braces were tightened too quickly) that she was crying. I made an emergency appointment to have them loosened up. I requested that her treatment be more gradual, which the orthodontist has done. This has worked out for her. I explained to the orthodontist at the beginning of treatment that she was extremely sensitive and he has been very good about taking his time with her. I talked to my daughter before each appointment to warn her that after the braces are tightened she may be uncomfortable for day or so. But if she had pain for more than say, half a day, I called the orthodontist. I hope some of this helps. W

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I have a prescription for a brace for my left foot. I live in

Northeast PA and am looking for a good orthotist. I have had two

braces in the past, neither of which worked to my satisfaction. Both

were from different orthotists. I want to go somewhere where I know

they are knowledgeable of CMT. If anyone lives in my area and has had

good experience with a good orthotist, please let me know. Thanks!

Pat

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HELP!!!!alright i got my braces for drop foot and balance. they are the white

plastic kind. i cant get my foot in any shoe. i have them on with my clogs right

now. i have seen alot of different kinds on here but i would like some help from

the group who have these kind of braces. i am looking for a tennis shoe. the man

who did my braces said the sole can't go in when you press it into an edge, and

you should not be able to turn or twist i guess the shoe.

thank you for your input

tina

cmt1a

michigan

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Tina,

Look into New Balance shoes. While I don't have braces, I do have in-shoe

orthotics and New Balance is a good match for me. You may also need a different

size and width your braces and at a New Balance Procare Fit Store, this can be

determined.

http://www.nbwebexpress.com

http://www.joesnewbalanceoutlet.com

http://www.newbalance.com/home.php

I have the NB Cross trainers, style # 855

Gretchen

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Tina,

If there is a arch support in the shoe ..take that out and see if that helps and

may have to get a larger shoe.

Geri

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Tina,

If he had used graphite and kevlar your braces could have been a lot thinner and

just as strong if not stronger. That would make getting shoes easier. I bet he

could cut back the footplate some too. A lot of the new research is showing that

afos don't have to be as thick or as long as they used to think they had to be.

C

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I second Gretchen's suggestion of New Balance shoes. I wear plastic AFOs

with a hinged ankle, and I buy my shoes about 1.5 sizes larger than my

without-brace size, and the widest width I can find. To get extra depth and

give me room for my braces, I remove the insoles. It's really best to go to

an actual New Balance store if you can, because they're very helpful with

measuring and they carry the largest selection of widths. Their men's shoes

run wider in general, and sometimes I have bought men's.

For me, cross training shoes work better than running shoes because they

have a flatter, more stable sole. Good luck!

Cyndi (CMT2 recessive)

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thank you. i will try the new balance.

tina

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From: cyndi@...

Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 10:42:20 -0400

Subject: Re: braces

I second Gretchen's suggestion of New Balance shoes. I wear plastic AFOs

with a hinged ankle, and I buy my shoes about 1.5 sizes larger than my

without-brace size, and the widest width I can find. To get extra depth and

give me room for my braces, I remove the insoles. It's really best to go to

an actual New Balance store if you can, because they're very helpful with

measuring and they carry the largest selection of widths. Their men's shoes

run wider in general, and sometimes I have bought men's.

For me, cross training shoes work better than running shoes because they

have a flatter, more stable sole. Good luck!

Cyndi (CMT2 recessive)

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Tina,

I have worn plastic and carbon composite braces,  They would only fit and feel

comfortable in shoes or sneakers that had removable insoles.  I have a closet

full of Sketchers as the insoles became unglued quite easily.  And they have

styles that work for dressy to casual.

I hope this was helpful.

Lyn from So Cal

 

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I love my braces Toe Offs and Walk On - I love them. Why do they still do the

plastic AFOs?

Thaks

Kim

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Kim,

Can you tell me what type of braces toe offs and walk ons are? I am always

looking for an alternative more comfortable set of braces for my son.

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