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Glenn et al:

Having been thoroughly shot down over my advice on skipping a drug for a day (i admit, skipping doses is bad, altho skipping once a week ain't exactly suicide), I'm hesitant to put in my two cents but here goes anyway.

A few years ago my doctor freaked out when her apparently healthy poz 40-year-old business manager had a heart attack one afternoon. All her hiv patients went in for ekg stress tests (the kind on a treadmill), and got on 81mg a day aspirin doses, which i did regularly.

However in the last year, i've cut down to 3 a week, and sometimes two. I figure that if a hospital demands you have NO aspirin TWO WEEKS before elective surgery, then aspirin probably lasts longer than a day. I also keep very close tabs on cardiovascular / lipid panel (or whatever your lab calls the cholesterol/trigs tests).

My doc had no complaints. It's part of my regimen to take as few drugs as possible.

And a happy new year to you all, and especially , without whom this list would be unbearable.

<<are most of the people in this group taking a daily aspirin? If so, why?>>

cheers edward

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Aspirin is anti-inflammatory and on a regular basis, new studies pop up that show us that it is helpful for numerous conditions of inflammation, more every year, it seems. ie. prostate cancer, breast cancer, heart disease, HIV(?), acne, psoriasis...etc.

If we look at nature, many, many of the natural disease fighting plants and herbs contain salicylic acid, which is basically the same as aspirin (acetyl-salicylic acid).

If we ate a truly natural diet with all that we should be getting we would get much more of this natural anti-inflammatory disease fighter. http://www.nutritionnewsfocus.com/archive/a3/22.html

Or, a person can take some aspirin on a regular basis............

Mooney

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From: GetWell@... Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 6:46 AMTo: PozHealth Cc: ROLYATFFEJ@...; PoWeRTX@...; mmooney@...Subject: Why should we take a daily aspirin?

> > Ask your doctor how much aspirin you can safely take > regularly--we should all be on at least the 81 mg/daily for our hearts.

>

Personally, I don't take a daily aspirin. I'm not against it -- it's just something that I never started doing.

My question is -- are most of the people in this group taking a daily aspirin? If so, why? Is it generally recommended that people with HIV should be on a daily aspirin? What are the reasons that would make us different from the general population? Are there any studies or reports showing that people with HIV should be on a daily aspirin?

Thanks,

Glenn

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Glenn - I take a daily baby aspirin just because I turned 50 and it's widely recommended for cardiovascular health. It really had nothing to do with HIV for me. (I have to say it is the "tastiest" of all my meds, though!) - BG

My question is -- are most of the people in this group taking a daily aspirin? If so, why? Is it generally recommended that people with HIV should be on a daily aspirin? What are the reasons that would make us different from the general population? Are there any studies or reports showing that people with HIV should be on a daily aspirin?

Thanks,

Glenn

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>> If we look at nature, many, many of the natural disease fighting plants and> herbs contain salicylic acid, which is basically the same as aspirin> (acetyl-salicylic acid). >

That's interesting. The Mediplast pads I recently used to remove a wart were salicylic acid pads. I never knew that they were aspirin pads.

I just looked up salicylic acid and noticed that some people want to classify it as a vitamin. Check this out:

"Vitamin S"

Aspirin

"Vitamin S" is a proposed alternative name for salicylate, which would have the effect of classifying it as a vitamin. There is no generally agreed definition of what constitutes a vitamin, though salicylate meets at least one of the requirements:

it is present in our natural diet in fruit and vegetables, particularly if they have had to defend themselves against damage or disease it isn't produced by our bodies trace amounts, it has been suggested, are required for the maintenance of life

This last point is controversial because salicylate deficiency, unlike, say, Vitamin C deficiency, which causes scurvy, does not result in any particular known symptoms. A low salicylate intake seems to be related to longer term problems, resulting in higher risks of age-related chronic diseases.

Whereas most vitamins are enzyme cofactors, promoting cellular biochemical reactions - Vitamin C boosts production of collagen - salicylate is not, but then nor is Vitamin E, which is an antioxidant, like salicylate.

Lack of salicylate appears to predispose humans to:

cancer heart attacks stroke Alzheimer's disease

It can be argued that salicylate has a better claim to be called a vitamin than vitamins A and D.

Whether or not you choose to call aspirin a vitamin, there is still a case to be made that salicylate is an important micronutrient.

There is evidence that salicylates in past ages were much more common in human diets than they are now. Salicylates are produced by fruit as a defense mechanism: inducing damaged and diseased cells to commit suicide. Modern man's predilection for fruit and vegetables in a pristine condition - with shoppers often rejecting fruit with bumps of bruises - means that we eat less salicylates than in the past. A study has shown that organic vegetable soups contain nearly six times as much salicylate as non-organic equivalents (European Journal of Nutrition, vol. 40 p 289).

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>> If we look at nature, many, many of the natural disease fighting plants and> herbs contain salicylic acid, which is basically the same as aspirin> (acetyl-salicylic acid). >

That's interesting. The Mediplast pads I recently used to remove a wart were salicylic acid pads. I never knew that they were aspirin pads.

I just looked up salicylic acid and noticed that some people want to classify it as a vitamin. Check this out:

"Vitamin S"

Aspirin

"Vitamin S" is a proposed alternative name for salicylate, which would have the effect of classifying it as a vitamin. There is no generally agreed definition of what constitutes a vitamin, though salicylate meets at least one of the requirements:

it is present in our natural diet in fruit and vegetables, particularly if they have had to defend themselves against damage or disease it isn't produced by our bodies trace amounts, it has been suggested, are required for the maintenance of life

This last point is controversial because salicylate deficiency, unlike, say, Vitamin C deficiency, which causes scurvy, does not result in any particular known symptoms. A low salicylate intake seems to be related to longer term problems, resulting in higher risks of age-related chronic diseases.

Whereas most vitamins are enzyme cofactors, promoting cellular biochemical reactions - Vitamin C boosts production of collagen - salicylate is not, but then nor is Vitamin E, which is an antioxidant, like salicylate.

Lack of salicylate appears to predispose humans to:

cancer heart attacks stroke Alzheimer's disease

It can be argued that salicylate has a better claim to be called a vitamin than vitamins A and D.

Whether or not you choose to call aspirin a vitamin, there is still a case to be made that salicylate is an important micronutrient.

There is evidence that salicylates in past ages were much more common in human diets than they are now. Salicylates are produced by fruit as a defense mechanism: inducing damaged and diseased cells to commit suicide. Modern man's predilection for fruit and vegetables in a pristine condition - with shoppers often rejecting fruit with bumps of bruises - means that we eat less salicylates than in the past. A study has shown that organic vegetable soups contain nearly six times as much salicylate as non-organic equivalents (European Journal of Nutrition, vol. 40 p 289).

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>> If we look at nature, many, many of the natural disease fighting plants and> herbs contain salicylic acid, which is basically the same as aspirin> (acetyl-salicylic acid). >

That's interesting. The Mediplast pads I recently used to remove a wart were salicylic acid pads. I never knew that they were aspirin pads.

I just looked up salicylic acid and noticed that some people want to classify it as a vitamin. Check this out:

"Vitamin S"

Aspirin

"Vitamin S" is a proposed alternative name for salicylate, which would have the effect of classifying it as a vitamin. There is no generally agreed definition of what constitutes a vitamin, though salicylate meets at least one of the requirements:

it is present in our natural diet in fruit and vegetables, particularly if they have had to defend themselves against damage or disease it isn't produced by our bodies trace amounts, it has been suggested, are required for the maintenance of life

This last point is controversial because salicylate deficiency, unlike, say, Vitamin C deficiency, which causes scurvy, does not result in any particular known symptoms. A low salicylate intake seems to be related to longer term problems, resulting in higher risks of age-related chronic diseases.

Whereas most vitamins are enzyme cofactors, promoting cellular biochemical reactions - Vitamin C boosts production of collagen - salicylate is not, but then nor is Vitamin E, which is an antioxidant, like salicylate.

Lack of salicylate appears to predispose humans to:

cancer heart attacks stroke Alzheimer's disease

It can be argued that salicylate has a better claim to be called a vitamin than vitamins A and D.

Whether or not you choose to call aspirin a vitamin, there is still a case to be made that salicylate is an important micronutrient.

There is evidence that salicylates in past ages were much more common in human diets than they are now. Salicylates are produced by fruit as a defense mechanism: inducing damaged and diseased cells to commit suicide. Modern man's predilection for fruit and vegetables in a pristine condition - with shoppers often rejecting fruit with bumps of bruises - means that we eat less salicylates than in the past. A study has shown that organic vegetable soups contain nearly six times as much salicylate as non-organic equivalents (European Journal of Nutrition, vol. 40 p 289).

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