Guest guest Posted July 9, 2005 Report Share Posted July 9, 2005 Thanks..... Again I'll say it...these groups and you moms are my rock, I couldnt do it without the support I get in just a few lines of email everyday!!! I guess if we all stick together and help eachother we can make a difference... Aimee ASNEEMA@... wrote: Girl you keep doing what you're doing. We have to do what we can for our kids. If along the way we are able to help each other and also maybe inform others to not be ignorant and question everything, no matter what. Don't just except what the medical profession says.....dig deeper...... I know my children's doctor had their best interest at heart, but because he just excepted what the journals and government told him. It is a combination of a lot of screw ups! Our children are blessed to have parents who advocate for them..just think about the children who don't and the children in the future who will be damaged. How fortunate for your Ella she has you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2005 Report Share Posted July 9, 2005 I don't know if this helps or not, but I have known kids who's parents were aware of the dangers, chose not to vaccinate, and still have kids with autism. Sometimes it happens no matter what you do. I know the dangers and I chose to vaccinate, on my own schedule, and according to what I read and researched. Doctors don't know everything, and neither do parents. You were doing what you thought was the best for her at the time and that's all anyone can do. Amnesty > There ya go! It is always the bottom line........whether its the drug > companies, school districts, etc., etc.. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2005 Report Share Posted July 9, 2005 I don't know if this helps or not, but I have known kids who's parents were aware of the dangers, chose not to vaccinate, and still have kids with autism. Sometimes it happens no matter what you do. I know the dangers and I chose to vaccinate, on my own schedule, and according to what I read and researched. Doctors don't know everything, and neither do parents. You were doing what you thought was the best for her at the time and that's all anyone can do. Amnesty > There ya go! It is always the bottom line........whether its the drug > companies, school districts, etc., etc.. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2005 Report Share Posted July 9, 2005 I don't know if this helps or not, but I have known kids who's parents were aware of the dangers, chose not to vaccinate, and still have kids with autism. Sometimes it happens no matter what you do. I know the dangers and I chose to vaccinate, on my own schedule, and according to what I read and researched. Doctors don't know everything, and neither do parents. You were doing what you thought was the best for her at the time and that's all anyone can do. Amnesty > There ya go! It is always the bottom line........whether its the drug > companies, school districts, etc., etc.. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2005 Report Share Posted July 9, 2005 I asked, and my regular ped said it would be fine. I asked the GI specialist and he said to wait. The allergist told me it was up to me. So I made the choices of which vaccines he got when. NOT ONE brought it up on their own, I had to ask. Amnesty > > Aimee, > > > > The MMR does not contain thimerosal, never has. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2005 Report Share Posted July 9, 2005 I asked, and my regular ped said it would be fine. I asked the GI specialist and he said to wait. The allergist told me it was up to me. So I made the choices of which vaccines he got when. NOT ONE brought it up on their own, I had to ask. Amnesty > > Aimee, > > > > The MMR does not contain thimerosal, never has. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2005 Report Share Posted July 9, 2005 THANKS AMNESTY...I HOPE YOU KNOW I DONT THINK ANY LESS OF PARENTS WHO CHOSE TO VACCINATE THEIR CHILDREN, I STILL FEEL TORN SOMETIMES, BUT I THINK PEDIATRICIANS SHOULD BE MORE HONEST AND CONCERNED FOR OUR CHILDREN RATHER THAN THE PAYOUTS THEY GET FOR KEEPING UP THEIR SCORES! I THINK VACCINES ARE SAFE...FOR SOME CHILDREN , AND IN SMALL SPREAD OUT DOSES! AIMEE Amnesty wrote: I don't know if this helps or not, but I have known kids who's parents were aware of the dangers, chose not to vaccinate, and still have kids with autism. Sometimes it happens no matter what you do. I know the dangers and I chose to vaccinate, on my own schedule, and according to what I read and researched. Doctors don't know everything, and neither do parents. You were doing what you thought was the best for her at the time and that's all anyone can do. Amnesty > There ya go! It is always the bottom line........whether its the drug > companies, school districts, etc., etc.. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2005 Report Share Posted July 9, 2005 THANKS AMNESTY...I HOPE YOU KNOW I DONT THINK ANY LESS OF PARENTS WHO CHOSE TO VACCINATE THEIR CHILDREN, I STILL FEEL TORN SOMETIMES, BUT I THINK PEDIATRICIANS SHOULD BE MORE HONEST AND CONCERNED FOR OUR CHILDREN RATHER THAN THE PAYOUTS THEY GET FOR KEEPING UP THEIR SCORES! I THINK VACCINES ARE SAFE...FOR SOME CHILDREN , AND IN SMALL SPREAD OUT DOSES! AIMEE Amnesty wrote: I don't know if this helps or not, but I have known kids who's parents were aware of the dangers, chose not to vaccinate, and still have kids with autism. Sometimes it happens no matter what you do. I know the dangers and I chose to vaccinate, on my own schedule, and according to what I read and researched. Doctors don't know everything, and neither do parents. You were doing what you thought was the best for her at the time and that's all anyone can do. Amnesty > There ya go! It is always the bottom line........whether its the drug > companies, school districts, etc., etc.. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2005 Report Share Posted July 9, 2005 THANKS AMNESTY...I HOPE YOU KNOW I DONT THINK ANY LESS OF PARENTS WHO CHOSE TO VACCINATE THEIR CHILDREN, I STILL FEEL TORN SOMETIMES, BUT I THINK PEDIATRICIANS SHOULD BE MORE HONEST AND CONCERNED FOR OUR CHILDREN RATHER THAN THE PAYOUTS THEY GET FOR KEEPING UP THEIR SCORES! I THINK VACCINES ARE SAFE...FOR SOME CHILDREN , AND IN SMALL SPREAD OUT DOSES! AIMEE Amnesty wrote: I don't know if this helps or not, but I have known kids who's parents were aware of the dangers, chose not to vaccinate, and still have kids with autism. Sometimes it happens no matter what you do. I know the dangers and I chose to vaccinate, on my own schedule, and according to what I read and researched. Doctors don't know everything, and neither do parents. You were doing what you thought was the best for her at the time and that's all anyone can do. Amnesty > There ya go! It is always the bottom line........whether its the drug > companies, school districts, etc., etc.. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2005 Report Share Posted July 9, 2005 ALL I EVER REMEMBER THEM ASKING ABOUT WAS ROLLING OVER, SITTING UP, CRAWLING AND WALKING...NO ONE EVER ASKED ABOUT BABBLE OR EYE CONTACT, I GUESS ITS NOT AS IMPORTANT (SURE) aIMEE Amnesty wrote: I asked, and my regular ped said it would be fine. I asked the GI specialist and he said to wait. The allergist told me it was up to me. So I made the choices of which vaccines he got when. NOT ONE brought it up on their own, I had to ask. Amnesty > > Aimee, > > > > The MMR does not contain thimerosal, never has. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2005 Report Share Posted July 9, 2005 ALL I EVER REMEMBER THEM ASKING ABOUT WAS ROLLING OVER, SITTING UP, CRAWLING AND WALKING...NO ONE EVER ASKED ABOUT BABBLE OR EYE CONTACT, I GUESS ITS NOT AS IMPORTANT (SURE) aIMEE Amnesty wrote: I asked, and my regular ped said it would be fine. I asked the GI specialist and he said to wait. The allergist told me it was up to me. So I made the choices of which vaccines he got when. NOT ONE brought it up on their own, I had to ask. Amnesty > > Aimee, > > > > The MMR does not contain thimerosal, never has. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2005 Report Share Posted July 9, 2005 Yes, I know what you mean. I've also seen parents whose children died from diseases and they think if their child would have had the vaccine they would be all right. I wonder if those same children have immune issues and would be the ones who also have vaccine complication. All I know is for now none of my girls are getting any vaccines. Debi > Vision problems and hearing loo are horrible, but isnt autism like both? > I know my little ella seems like shes deaf sometimes and I dont think she sees things quite like I do either, so not a huge difference. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2005 Report Share Posted July 9, 2005 Yes, I know what you mean. I've also seen parents whose children died from diseases and they think if their child would have had the vaccine they would be all right. I wonder if those same children have immune issues and would be the ones who also have vaccine complication. All I know is for now none of my girls are getting any vaccines. Debi > Vision problems and hearing loo are horrible, but isnt autism like both? > I know my little ella seems like shes deaf sometimes and I dont think she sees things quite like I do either, so not a huge difference. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2005 Report Share Posted July 9, 2005 Yes, I know what you mean. I've also seen parents whose children died from diseases and they think if their child would have had the vaccine they would be all right. I wonder if those same children have immune issues and would be the ones who also have vaccine complication. All I know is for now none of my girls are getting any vaccines. Debi > Vision problems and hearing loo are horrible, but isnt autism like both? > I know my little ella seems like shes deaf sometimes and I dont think she sees things quite like I do either, so not a huge difference. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2005 Report Share Posted July 9, 2005 You can help in the fight to get legislation passed in every state to ban thimerosal from vaccines. Yes there are still plenty of other things about vaccines that are questionable, but this would be one start, one thing that could help some kids. I've been working on this in my state, but St. Judes Childrens' Hospital is doing all it can to fight the bill. Go figure. Debi , I am a mother of a vaccine damnaged child! > What can we do? > > Aimee > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2005 Report Share Posted July 9, 2005 You can help in the fight to get legislation passed in every state to ban thimerosal from vaccines. Yes there are still plenty of other things about vaccines that are questionable, but this would be one start, one thing that could help some kids. I've been working on this in my state, but St. Judes Childrens' Hospital is doing all it can to fight the bill. Go figure. Debi , I am a mother of a vaccine damnaged child! > What can we do? > > Aimee > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2005 Report Share Posted July 9, 2005 You can help in the fight to get legislation passed in every state to ban thimerosal from vaccines. Yes there are still plenty of other things about vaccines that are questionable, but this would be one start, one thing that could help some kids. I've been working on this in my state, but St. Judes Childrens' Hospital is doing all it can to fight the bill. Go figure. Debi , I am a mother of a vaccine damnaged child! > What can we do? > > Aimee > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2005 Report Share Posted July 9, 2005 You're lucky, my ped didn't care that Allie didn't walk until 17 mos old. Debi > ALL I EVER REMEMBER THEM ASKING ABOUT WAS ROLLING OVER, SITTING UP, CRAWLING AND WALKING...NO ONE EVER ASKED ABOUT BABBLE OR EYE CONTACT, I GUESS ITS NOT AS IMPORTANT (SURE) > aIMEE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2005 Report Share Posted July 9, 2005 You're lucky, my ped didn't care that Allie didn't walk until 17 mos old. Debi > ALL I EVER REMEMBER THEM ASKING ABOUT WAS ROLLING OVER, SITTING UP, CRAWLING AND WALKING...NO ONE EVER ASKED ABOUT BABBLE OR EYE CONTACT, I GUESS ITS NOT AS IMPORTANT (SURE) > aIMEE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2005 Report Share Posted July 9, 2005 You're lucky, my ped didn't care that Allie didn't walk until 17 mos old. Debi > ALL I EVER REMEMBER THEM ASKING ABOUT WAS ROLLING OVER, SITTING UP, CRAWLING AND WALKING...NO ONE EVER ASKED ABOUT BABBLE OR EYE CONTACT, I GUESS ITS NOT AS IMPORTANT (SURE) > aIMEE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2005 Report Share Posted July 14, 2005 No, it is a preservative. In the ones that do not contain it the preservatives are just as scary or worse. Check it out. If you can, go check out Dr Tenpenny's website. I will see if I can find any other sources for you, but I do not believe it is that hard to confirm. Aliza Ratterree wrote:Are you sure about the older MMR's? I thought that since it is a live virus vaccine, thimerosal would be contraindicated. --- john smith wrote: > Actually, the older MMR vaccines do have thimerosal. > If you do not ask specifically that the vaccine does > not contain thimerosal, there is no guarantee that > you are receiving one thimerosal free, and even if > it is, the vaccine contains other elements that are > just as horrifying, such as Aluminum, formaldehyde, > etc. Do a googlesearch on an osteopath named Dr. > Tenpenny. She used to be pro-vaccine until she began > to educate herself. What you will learn will > undoubtedly be very eye-opening. Not only that, but > I believe Dr. Wakefield found that the MMR is > actually sequestered in the digestive systems of > autistic children, and that is why they typically > have digestive problems... > > TAAP wrote:The DPT is supposed to > have contained thimerosal (mercury) but the MMR DOES > NOT contain thimerosal. See.......... > > DPT > Diphtheria and Tetanus Toxoids and Pertussis Vaccine > Adsorbed > Kline Beecham Pharmaceuticals > 1- ext. 5231 > produced using aluminum phosphate, formaldehyde, > ammonium sulfate, washed sheep red blood cells, > glycerol, sodium chloride, thimerosal medium: > porcine (pig) pancreatic hydrolysate of casein > > MMR > Measles Mumps Rubella Live Virus Vaccine > Merck & Co., Inc. > 1- > produced using sorbitol, neomycin, hydrolyzed > gelatin > mediums: M & M - chick embryo > Rubella - human diploid cells (originating > from human aborted fetal tissue) > > I received the product insert package from Merck on > the MMR and it matches up to the above...no > thimerosal. > > MMR is a live virus vaccine and the measles, mumps, > rubella virus can cause encephalitis. Imagine three > of these viruses in one vaccine and hitting a baby > at 14-15 months. Before babies get the MMR they get > the DPT, which contains the pertussis and tetanus > bacteria. Pertussis and tetanus can cause > encephalitis...again this is in the DPT vaccine. > > All one has to do is to a search for vaccine > ingredients on the Internet to see what the > companies put in their vaccines. If people don't > believe what is on the Internet you can call the > manufacturers for the product inserts. I called > Merck and what is out there on the hepatitis B and > MMR match up. It is no mystery. > > Nor is the present autism epidemic.....parents and > educators know there is an autism epidemic....so > does the NJ DDD (Division of Developmental > Disabilities). They are seeing children as young as > five who have aggressions being put into residential > schools and residential centers. > > The only people not aware of this is the general > public until they start to see the tax tab that will > pay for this through state and Federal income taxes > as well as Medicaid/Medicare and Social Security > taxes.......yes, we all get hit!!! > > Ray > > DEFINITION * TREATMENT * PREVENTION > Autism is 1 in 150 children today, 1 in 68 families! > TAAP (The Autism Autoimmunity Project) is a > non-profit charity dedicated to obtaining funding > for independent research into the cause, treatment > and prevention of autism and other autoimmune > disorders. Please visit our new website at > http://www.TAAP.info and " TAAP into the Truth! " > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > Texas Autism Advocacy > www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org > > Texas Disability Network > Calendar of Events > www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2005 Report Share Posted July 14, 2005 I am almost certain that the MMR does not and never did contain Thimerosal. --- john smith wrote: > No, it is a preservative. In the ones that do not > contain it the preservatives are just as scary or > worse. Check it out. If you can, go check out Dr > Tenpenny's website. I will see if I can find any > other sources for you, but I do not believe it is > that hard to confirm. > > Aliza Ratterree wrote:Are > you sure about the older MMR's? I thought that > since it is a live virus vaccine, thimerosal would > be > contraindicated. > > --- john smith wrote: > > > Actually, the older MMR vaccines do have > thimerosal. > > If you do not ask specifically that the vaccine > does > > not contain thimerosal, there is no guarantee that > > you are receiving one thimerosal free, and even if > > it is, the vaccine contains other elements that > are > > just as horrifying, such as Aluminum, > formaldehyde, > > etc. Do a googlesearch on an osteopath named Dr. > > Tenpenny. She used to be pro-vaccine until she > began > > to educate herself. What you will learn will > > undoubtedly be very eye-opening. Not only that, > but > > I believe Dr. Wakefield found that the MMR > is > > actually sequestered in the digestive systems of > > autistic children, and that is why they typically > > have digestive problems... > > > > TAAP wrote:The DPT is supposed > to > > have contained thimerosal (mercury) but the MMR > DOES > > NOT contain thimerosal. See.......... > > > > DPT > > Diphtheria and Tetanus Toxoids and Pertussis > Vaccine > > Adsorbed > > Kline Beecham Pharmaceuticals > > 1- ext. 5231 > > produced using aluminum phosphate, formaldehyde, > > ammonium sulfate, washed sheep red blood cells, > > glycerol, sodium chloride, thimerosal medium: > > porcine (pig) pancreatic hydrolysate of casein > > > > MMR > > Measles Mumps Rubella Live Virus Vaccine > > Merck & Co., Inc. > > 1- > > produced using sorbitol, neomycin, hydrolyzed > > gelatin > > mediums: M & M - chick embryo > > Rubella - human diploid cells (originating > > from human aborted fetal tissue) > > > > I received the product insert package from Merck > on > > the MMR and it matches up to the above...no > > thimerosal. > > > > MMR is a live virus vaccine and the measles, > mumps, > > rubella virus can cause encephalitis. Imagine > three > > of these viruses in one vaccine and hitting a baby > > at 14-15 months. Before babies get the MMR they > get > > the DPT, which contains the pertussis and tetanus > > bacteria. Pertussis and tetanus can cause > > encephalitis...again this is in the DPT vaccine. > > > > All one has to do is to a search for vaccine > > ingredients on the Internet to see what the > > companies put in their vaccines. If people don't > > believe what is on the Internet you can call the > > manufacturers for the product inserts. I called > > Merck and what is out there on the hepatitis B and > > MMR match up. It is no mystery. > > > > Nor is the present autism epidemic.....parents and > > educators know there is an autism epidemic....so > > does the NJ DDD (Division of Developmental > > Disabilities). They are seeing children as young > as > > five who have aggressions being put into > residential > > schools and residential centers. > > > > The only people not aware of this is the general > > public until they start to see the tax tab that > will > > pay for this through state and Federal income > taxes > > as well as Medicaid/Medicare and Social Security > > taxes.......yes, we all get hit!!! > > > > Ray > > > > DEFINITION * TREATMENT * PREVENTION > > Autism is 1 in 150 children today, 1 in 68 > families! > > TAAP (The Autism Autoimmunity Project) is a > > non-profit charity dedicated to obtaining funding > > for independent research into the cause, treatment > > and prevention of autism and other autoimmune > > disorders. Please visit our new website at > > http://www.TAAP.info and " TAAP into the Truth! " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > Texas Autism Advocacy > > www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org > > > > Texas Disability Network > > Calendar of Events > > www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2005 Report Share Posted July 19, 2005 I read a book in the spring called Autism Spectrum Disorders by Chantal Sicile-Kira, which was a new release at the library (I HIGHLY recommend this book), and there was a very interesting passage in it regarding the MMR vaccine, " In rare cases, the measles virus has been found in the fluid that bathes the brain and cerebrospinal fluid. In some children, measles viruses have been found in the gut. It is theorized that these viruses cause inflammatory bowel disease, which in turn allows the peptides to cross the blood-brain barrier and affect neurotransmission, leading to some of the behaviors associated with ASDs. DNA analysis has shown that the strain of measles found in autistic children is from the vaccine, and not a wild virus " Nothing at all about thimerosal, but rather, the measles itself from the vaccine being the problem. Anne -- Re: MMR vaccine never contained thimerosal Actually, the older MMR vaccines do have thimerosal. If you do not ask specifically that the vaccine does not contain thimerosal, there is no guarantee that you are receiving one thimerosal free, and even if it is, the vaccine contains other elements that are just as horrifying, such as Aluminum, formaldehyde, etc. Do a googlesearch on an osteopath named Dr. Tenpenny. She used to be pro-vaccine until she began to educate herself. What you will learn will undoubtedly be very eye-opening. Not only that, but I believe Dr. Wakefield found that the MMR is actually sequestered in the digestive systems of autistic children, and that is why they typically have digestive problems... TAAP wrote:The DPT is supposed to have contained thimerosal (mercury) but the MMR DOES NOT contain thimerosal. See.......... DPT Diphtheria and Tetanus Toxoids and Pertussis Vaccine Adsorbed Kline Beecham Pharmaceuticals 1- ext. 5231 produced using aluminum phosphate, formaldehyde, ammonium sulfate, washed sheep red blood cells, glycerol, sodium chloride, thimerosal medium: porcine (pig) pancreatic hydrolysate of casein MMR Measles Mumps Rubella Live Virus Vaccine Merck & Co., Inc. 1- produced using sorbitol, neomycin, hydrolyzed gelatin mediums: M & M - chick embryo Rubella - human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue) I received the product insert package from Merck on the MMR and it matches up to the above...no thimerosal. MMR is a live virus vaccine and the measles, mumps, rubella virus can cause encephalitis. Imagine three of these viruses in one vaccine and hitting a baby at 14-15 months. Before babies get the MMR they get the DPT, which contains the pertussis and tetanus bacteria. Pertussis and tetanus can cause encephalitis...again this is in the DPT vaccine. All one has to do is to a search for vaccine ingredients on the Internet to see what the companies put in their vaccines. If people don't believe what is on the Internet you can call the manufacturers for the product inserts. I called Merck and what is out there on the hepatitis B and MMR match up. It is no mystery. Nor is the present autism epidemic.....parents and educators know there is an autism epidemic....so does the NJ DDD (Division of Developmental Disabilities). They are seeing children as young as five who have aggressions being put into residential schools and residential centers. The only people not aware of this is the general public until they start to see the tax tab that will pay for this through state and Federal income taxes as well as Medicaid/Medicare and Social Security taxes.......yes, we all get hit!!! Ray DEFINITION * TREATMENT * PREVENTION Autism is 1 in 150 children today, 1 in 68 families! TAAP (The Autism Autoimmunity Project) is a non-profit charity dedicated to obtaining funding for independent research into the cause, treatment and prevention of autism and other autoimmune disorders. Please visit our new website at http://www TAAP.info and " TAAP into the Truth! " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2005 Report Share Posted July 19, 2005 That is Wakefield's research. He is practicing at Thoughtful House in Austin now. Aliza --- Anne wrote: > I read a book in the spring called Autism Spectrum > Disorders by Chantal > Sicile-Kira, which was a new release at the library > (I HIGHLY recommend this > book), and there was a very interesting passage in > it regarding the MMR > vaccine, " In rare cases, the measles virus has been > found in the fluid that > bathes the brain and cerebrospinal fluid. In some > children, measles viruses > have been found in the gut. It is theorized that > these viruses cause > inflammatory bowel disease, which in turn allows the > peptides to cross the > blood-brain barrier and affect neurotransmission, > leading to some of the > behaviors associated with ASDs. DNA analysis has > shown that the strain of > measles found in autistic children is from the > vaccine, and not a wild virus > " Nothing at all about thimerosal, but rather, the > measles itself from the > vaccine being the problem. > > Anne > > -- Re: MMR vaccine > never contained thimerosal > > Actually, the older MMR vaccines do have thimerosal. > If you do not ask > specifically that the vaccine does not contain > thimerosal, there is no > guarantee that you are receiving one thimerosal > free, and even if it is, the > vaccine contains other elements that are just as > horrifying, such as > Aluminum, formaldehyde, etc. Do a googlesearch on an > osteopath named Dr. > Tenpenny. She used to be pro-vaccine until she began > to educate herself. > What you will learn will undoubtedly be very > eye-opening. Not only that, but > I believe Dr. Wakefield found that the MMR is > actually sequestered in > the digestive systems of autistic children, and that > is why they typically > have digestive problems... > > TAAP wrote:The DPT is supposed to > have contained > thimerosal (mercury) but the MMR DOES NOT contain > thimerosal. See.......... > > DPT > Diphtheria and Tetanus Toxoids and Pertussis Vaccine > Adsorbed > Kline Beecham Pharmaceuticals > 1- ext. 5231 > produced using aluminum phosphate, formaldehyde, > ammonium sulfate, washed > sheep red blood cells, glycerol, sodium chloride, > thimerosal medium: porcine > (pig) pancreatic hydrolysate of casein > > MMR > Measles Mumps Rubella Live Virus Vaccine > Merck & Co., Inc. > 1- > produced using sorbitol, neomycin, hydrolyzed > gelatin > mediums: M & M - chick embryo > Rubella - human diploid cells (originating > from human aborted fetal > tissue) > > I received the product insert package from Merck on > the MMR and it matches > up to the above...no thimerosal. > > MMR is a live virus vaccine and the measles, mumps, > rubella virus can cause > encephalitis. Imagine three of these viruses in one > vaccine and hitting a > baby at 14-15 months. Before babies get the MMR they > get the DPT, which > contains the pertussis and tetanus bacteria. > Pertussis and tetanus can cause > encephalitis...again this is in the DPT vaccine. > > All one has to do is to a search for vaccine > ingredients on the Internet to > see what the companies put in their vaccines. If > people don't believe what > is on the Internet you can call the manufacturers > for the product inserts. I > called Merck and what is out there on the hepatitis > B and MMR match up. It > is no mystery. > > Nor is the present autism epidemic.....parents and > educators know there is > an autism epidemic....so does the NJ DDD (Division > of Developmental > Disabilities). They are seeing children as young as > five who have > aggressions being put into residential schools and > residential centers. > > The only people not aware of this is the general > public until they start to > see the tax tab that will pay for this through state > and Federal income > taxes as well as Medicaid/Medicare and Social > Security taxes.......yes, we > all get hit!!! > > Ray > > DEFINITION * TREATMENT * PREVENTION > Autism is 1 in 150 children today, 1 in 68 families! > TAAP (The Autism > Autoimmunity Project) is a non-profit charity > dedicated to obtaining funding > for independent research into the cause, treatment > and prevention of autism > and other autoimmune disorders. Please visit our > new website at http://www > TAAP.info and " TAAP into the Truth! " > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > Texas Autism Advocacy > www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org > > Texas Disability Network > Calendar of Events > www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 I thought it might be. Very thought provoking. Anne -- Re: MMR vaccine > never contained thimerosal > > Actually, the older MMR vaccines do have thimerosal. > If you do not ask > specifically that the vaccine does not contain > thimerosal, there is no > guarantee that you are receiving one thimerosal > free, and even if it is, the > vaccine contains other elements that are just as > horrifying, such as > Aluminum, formaldehyde, etc. Do a googlesearch on an > osteopath named Dr. > Tenpenny. She used to be pro-vaccine until she began > to educate herself. > What you will learn will undoubtedly be very > eye-opening. Not only that, but > I believe Dr. Wakefield found that the MMR is > actually sequestered in > the digestive systems of autistic children, and that > is why they typically > have digestive problems... > > TAAP wrote:The DPT is supposed to > have contained > thimerosal (mercury) but the MMR DOES NOT contain > thimerosal. See.......... > > DPT > Diphtheria and Tetanus Toxoids and Pertussis Vaccine > Adsorbed > Kline Beecham Pharmaceuticals > 1- ext. 5231 > produced using aluminum phosphate, formaldehyde, > ammonium sulfate, washed > sheep red blood cells, glycerol, sodium chloride, > thimerosal medium: porcine > (pig) pancreatic hydrolysate of casein > > MMR > Measles Mumps Rubella Live Virus Vaccine > Merck & Co., Inc. > 1- > produced using sorbitol, neomycin, hydrolyzed > gelatin > mediums: M & M - chick embryo > Rubella - human diploid cells (originating > from human aborted fetal > tissue) > > I received the product insert package from Merck on > the MMR and it matches > up to the above...no thimerosal. > > MMR is a live virus vaccine and the measles, mumps, > rubella virus can cause > encephalitis. Imagine three of these viruses in one > vaccine and hitting a > baby at 14-15 months. Before babies get the MMR they > get the DPT, which > contains the pertussis and tetanus bacteria. > Pertussis and tetanus can cause > encephalitis...again this is in the DPT vaccine. > > All one has to do is to a search for vaccine > ingredients on the Internet to > see what the companies put in their vaccines. If > people don't believe what > is on the Internet you can call the manufacturers > for the product inserts. I > called Merck and what is out there on the hepatitis > B and MMR match up. It > is no mystery. > > Nor is the present autism epidemic.....parents and > educators know there is > an autism epidemic....so does the NJ DDD (Division > of Developmental > Disabilities). They are seeing children as young as > five who have > aggressions being put into residential schools and > residential centers. > > The only people not aware of this is the general > public until they start to > see the tax tab that will pay for this through state > and Federal income > taxes as well as Medicaid/Medicare and Social > Security taxes.......yes, we > all get hit!!! > > Ray > > DEFINITION * TREATMENT * PREVENTION > Autism is 1 in 150 children today, 1 in 68 families! > TAAP (The Autism > Autoimmunity Project) is a non-profit charity > dedicated to obtaining funding > for independent research into the cause, treatment > and prevention of autism > and other autoimmune disorders. Please visit our > new website at http://www > TAAP.info and " TAAP into the Truth! " > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > Texas Autism Advocacy > www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org > > Texas Disability Network > Calendar of Events > www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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