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JAck,

As I mentioned in that post earlier, when I did the metabolic

self-test, it said I am a fruit-nut-arian with a minor omnivore. The

test amounted to hundreds of questions to elicit what foods one's body

tolerates. The downside of the diet you propose, for me, is I won't

count calories. I just won't take the time to weigh foods and figure

caloric content. I KNOW that is not part of the master plan!

I have always preferred to eat one food at a time, and do it most of the

time. It annoys girlfriends who like to cook fancy meals for their men,

but not as much as that kind of food annoys my body. I have decided that

I would rather not have a partner, than have one whose diet differs

greatly from mine.I just don't believe two different diets belong in the

same household.

I find salads all the time a little too boring to tolerate, but am

attracted to the ideas you present of eating predominantly single fruit

meals, with one salad at night. I'll read the books you recommend and

make some changes, to give it a try. I'm willing to give up meats if

something actually works as a substitute. I have been CFS/fibro most of

my life, and don't have much trouble with low energy any more, so I will

know if basically fruits work for me or not, and quickly. Off the top of

my head, I would say that I could probably be content eating & drinking

the juice of organic oranges and pink grapefruit, without limit. But I

believe that whatever the diet, eclecticism is a good principle to get a

better balance of micronutrients. But I'm always willing to be proven wrong.

I also understand that it may involve trying the diet strictly for a

while to adjust my metabolism, which is now accustomed to a higher

protein content. I have intended to cut down on my protein consumption

anyway, and have progressed along with my discovery of veggies and

fruits to eat, and how to eat them. The only thing that concerns me

about a high fruit diet is will the sugars support candida overgrowth?

Then again, if my Ph raises my terrain won't be so hospitable to c.

albicans.

As I have said before, I don't believe everyone will benefit from the

same diet. There are genetic backgrounds that evolved near the equator,

and further from it. But, I prefer plums and oranges and apples, etc. to

most foods. But, having developed a taste for raw fish, especially wild

ocean salmon, and several roes, especially smelt roe, I doubt I will

give them up totally. Then again, never say never. The only concept to

which I am married is raw.

Ah, what fun! Something new, with promise, to try! And sweet to boot!

jim

Jack Whitley wrote:

>Hello group,

>

>I¹m Jack, the low fat, raw vegan that Jim referred to in an earlier post

>today. I¹m an old member of the Oxyplus group, but I¹ve been away for a

>while. I remember Vilik from before. I¹m happy to see her still here. At the

>time just before I left, in 1999, I was involved heavily in fasting, the

>master cleanser, and urine therapy. I¹ve continued, unabated, my search for

>optimum health, and it has led me down many paths, most of them dead ends.

>My roommate has an eating disorder, so out of self defense and compassion,

>I¹ve researched and tested most of the fad diets that have been and are

>circulating out there. In March 1999, I encountered the raw foods movement,

>and I felt challenged to try it. It was difficult giving up cooked food; the

>last thing I gave up was cooked brown rice in my salad.

>

>I¹ve spent the last four years working with the raw diet, falling out of the

>diet with occasional cooked food, then getting back on it again and going

>for periods before falling out again. There are many gurus of this movement,

>each with his or her own spin on how it should be done properly. Often they

>are at variance with each other, so it is not surprising that someone who is

>skeptical in the first place, should declare a pox on all their houses, and

>turn away in disgust. Nevertheless, I knew there was something correct at

>the core of this way of eating, so I persisted, even though I was acting

>more on faith than science. Finally, in November of last year, I stumbled

>upon some books online written by Ross Horne, an Australian health writer,

>that made sense for me. Then, not too long afterward, I tuned into the

>writings of a young French Canadian who blew the lid off the raw food

>movement by pointing out how and why raw vegans were not succeeding in their

>diets. His conclusion: too many raw fats, i.e., nuts and seeds, avocados and

>oils. That resonated with me, but it still didn¹t provide me with the steps

>of what should be done affirmatively. All well and good to say what

>shouldn¹t be done, but how does one do this diet successfully, over a long

>period of time?

>

>Then, my roommate, mentioned a certain sports chiropractor, Dr. Doug Graham,

>who has been professing a formula for eating that works for sports

>nutrition. I remember him from earlier, but had dismissed him because of a

>personal incident that had happened when my roommate attended his diet and

>exercise camp. Hubris on my part, so I tuned back into his writings. Sure

>enough, he was saying that the reason why most people fail at the raw diet

>was because of too much fat and not enough simple carbohydrates from fruit.

>

>So, I decided to adopt his approach to see if it would work, and behold, it

>does. He recommends an 80% carbohydrate, 10% fat, and 10% protein daily

>diet. By that it meant, of calories for the day: 10% of the daily calories

>should come from fat. So, if one eats 2500 calories, then no more than 250

>calories should be of fat or protein. The diet consists of eating fruit

>during the day and a green salad at night, often with some fat such as

>avocado, nuts, seeds or olives. He also recommends what are called mono

>meals, eating a lot of one fruit at a time for a meal, such as 8-16 bananas,

>or 10-12 oranges, depending on how much exercise you intend or have

>accomplished that day. He has worked with such athletes at a

>Navratilova, and this is how he gives them extra endurance. Interestingly,

>he says that fruit provides the fuel, but sleep provides the energy. Diet is

>just one of many components of good health.

>

>Anyway, it has taken me quite a while to relearn how to eat this way. I had

>so many addictions to overcome. Addiction to cooked foods is the big one;

>addiction to variety is another one. Learning how to enjoy one fruit at a

>time sent me back to school, but I understand it now; it was kind of subtle,

>at first, just eating a breakfast of five grapefruit, then nothing more

>until lunch when I had eight bananas. When I knew I was on it was when I

>could eat an entire watermelon during the morning, then have ten mangos

>later in the afternoon after yoga.

>

>By the way, the way I measure my endurance is how I perform at yoga. I have

>a year pass at the local Bikram yoga studio, where a very intensive form of

>health yoga is done in an hour and a half in a heated room (105-110 degrees

>F.). It¹s done wonders for my flexibility and my physique. I¹m 6¹1/2² and

>weigh about 150. Not much body fat; very flat stomach. Going to yoga

>regularly is a challenge; it exhausts me many days, but I replenish quickly.

>>From January to February, I went 50 days in a row, uninterrupted.

>

>So, I still have a few health issues, infectious rather than metabolism,

>that have been hanging on over the years, but I¹ve been using ozone and H2O2

>regularly and they are starting to give way. More about these later.

>

>For now, I just wanted to reintroduce myself and where I am and will be

>coming from in subsequent posts. My philosophy is that most health issues

>are self created from improper eating, and adjustments to the diet will

>prevent new ones from occurring. When a problems has persisted for a long

>period of time, it is unfair to wait for a corrected diet to resolve the

>entirety of the problem, slowly, when ozone and hydrogen peroxide can speed

>up the healing process. However, to accept a health issue, like cancer,

>without questioning its origin, and focus only on the ³cure² misses the

>point. Even if one is able to make the cancer manifestation go away, the

>lump or growth, using whatever magic health process, it is guaranteed to

>come back over time, unless the underlying lifestyle choices, including

>diet, are changed dramatically. However, I have found that most people would

>rather die than give up their cooked foods. Shocking, but true. The

>addiction is too strong. They¹ll do raw foods to cure the cancer, but when

>it¹s gone, they¹ll go back to their old cooked food habits, the cancer comes

>back and they die. Happens like clockwork.

>

>So, I¹ll be a voice for raw foods, done properly, from time to time. Good to

>be back. I¹ve always respected Jim¹s powerful intellect and his steadfast

>integrity. We¹ll just have to help him to let go of this raw meat madness

>that must be inspired from a previous lifetime as an Eskimo. :-) Speaking of

>which, I¹m going to make a new post on the Eskimo raw meat issue. Here it

>comes, Jim.

>

>Regards,

>

>Jack

>

>

>

>

>

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i was reading an email, and someone had written something about frozen shoulder, from use of crixivan?....does any one have more info. on this problem? this is the first i have heard of this? and oddly enough, for the last 2 yrs. i have had horrible shoulder pain, and thought it was due from work, so i went in for 2 mri's and countless cortozone shots, but it still hurts terribly, no wonder the mri's showed nothing wrong with my shoulder?!.....i just thought i was getting older and this was part of aging?...so any info. on frozen shoulde would be greatly appreciated....thanks to all of you who belong to this group, i have learned alot!.....thanks, len

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a websearch on frozen shoulder. I was able to find a lot of info online

after my diagnosis. Physical therapy is supposed to help – I’ll

find out soon enough.

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was reading an email, and someone had written something about frozen shoulder,

from use of crixivan?....does any one have more info. on this problem? this is

the first i have heard of this? and oddly enough, for the last 2 yrs. i have

had horrible shoulder pain, and thought it was due from work, so i went in for

2 mri's and countless cortozone shots, but it still hurts terribly, no wonder

the mri's showed nothing wrong with my shoulder?!.....i just thought i was

getting older and this was part of aging?...so any info. on frozen shoulde

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LEN,

As a physical therapist I treat frozen shoulders all the time. A frozen shoulder is characterized by a loss of range of motion, usually a moderate to serve decrease in elevation. Have you seen a good manual physical therapist.? It sounds like if you are getting "countless" cortisone injections, yes, in fact, your docs don't know what's going on and are only treating you symptomatically and incorrectly. Let me know where you are and I can try to find a good PT for you. They should be able to identify which structure is causing you pain and treat you accordingly. If you, in fact, really do have a frozen shoulder you need to be mobilized to stretch the capsule, or if it is of long standing, they sometimes will manipulate the shoulder under anesthesia.

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