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Have read this before and loved it just as much tonight!

Mad.

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Hi everyone I just wanted to take soem time totell everyone THANKS I have

enjoyed your posts and have printed out most.

I will be unfortunately with out a computer as of Sun.

This one has to return to " Active Duty " at the VA Offices.

Jeff

jkeith@...

& The Hounds of Hooterville

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You are right; there are errors. Thanks for the WHO ref. Although I

have translated for years, I am relatively new online, so I am still

amassing sources. Thanks to all listeros. Keep suggesting sources, because

one never knows what someone else may not have seen.

Bob

randerso@...

MD Munoa wrote:

> ,

>

> http://www.cof.es/bot/farma.htm is a good reference indeed, but you

> can also find some errors: e.g., " tetracosactido " instead of

> " tetracosactida " . I would suggest the WHO Terminology Products

> webpage

> http://www.who.int/terminology/ter/WHO_terminology_products.en.htm

> (International Nonproprietary Names for Pharmaceutical Substances) as

> the most reliable source.

>

> Best regards,

>

>

>

>

> > Carmen-

> > Sorry, I should have given you my source for TAZOBACTAM. It is a

> > pretty good one:

> > http://www.cof.es/bot/farma.htm

> >

> > Bob

> > randerso@...

>

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> already registered at Classmates.com, there's a good chance you'll

> find her here. Visit your online high school class reunion at:

> http://click./1/3139/2/_/98296/_/956185555/

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,

http://www.cof.es/bot/farma.htm is a good reference indeed, but you

can also find some errors: e.g., " tetracosactido " instead of

" tetracosactida " . I would suggest the WHO Terminology Products

webpage

http://www.who.int/terminology/ter/WHO_terminology_products.en.htm

(International Nonproprietary Names for Pharmaceutical Substances) as

the most reliable source.

Best regards,

> Carmen-

> Sorry, I should have given you my source for TAZOBACTAM. It is a

> pretty good one:

> http://www.cof.es/bot/farma.htm

>

> Bob

> randerso@...

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Joan

Thank you for sharing your story. I am glad you are in this group and

look forward to seeing more posts from you. Best of luck to you and God

bless you.

Sandie

Des Moines, IA

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Thank You Joan,

You are fortunate to have such a caring family. I wish there was a way to

get my parent's to live next door to me. Best wishes for your husband and

family......Shirley

When I get to feel sorry for us, I read your

>letters and count my blessings! Which are really too numerous to count! I

>know that God is in control here, and if I just give it all to Him, He'll

>always be there to do the job.

>My prayers are with all of you.

>

>

>

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Welcome, Joan. You are indeed fortunate to have a large family that pulls

together for your husband's care. Nonetheless, it is hard to watch the

person we have chosen to spend our life with as partner, deteriorate to

someone so different. You didn't say if your husband's dementia is Lewy Body

Disease, but certainly his reaction to Haldol could be an indicator.

Looking forward to hearing more from you.

Cheryl (caring for husband Bob, diagnosed with LBD in March 1998 but showing

symptoms for 4 years earlier)

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Hello Cheryl, Thanks for your welcome.

My husband was diagnosed with Lewy Body after his reaction to haldol. Of

course the haldol made it easier to diagnose! We were able to get an

appointment with a wonderful geriatric psych. He talked to me and my family

about caring for Bob and taking care of ourselves. We know we are in this for

the long haul, and I just hope that our son and daughter won't burn

themselves out. As we all know---this is not an easy life!

I look forward to teading all your messages each day.

Joan

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Tom, I am a research scientist and know how to conduct controlled and

uncontrolled research.

What you also must for sure know, is that for doing systematic studies, one

needs some form of budget, and then eventually a peer-reviewed publication

of the study results.

I am in no position to do any of those, being an independent professional

now.

So, go ahead, plan a study and do it. I will be happy to review it. Or if

you are well connected with a research institution who is willing to

undertake such a study, I will be very happy to join them and contribute in

whatever capacity they would want me to. But then, what product will be

patented to cover the expenses and to produce Mega Profits? Cilantro????

:-)

I guess what Dick Loyd is doing now is pretty cool, considering. And there

is no control group, as each client serves as his/her own control with the

'before' and 'after' measurements. That is also a valid form of study.

As to the hair analyses: there are tons of results that Analytical Lab has

even reported on. You may want to contact Dr. Bill Risley and he will

supply you with results, however he will not know what exactly caused the

reduction in heavy metal concentration in the hair, because he had no

control over what the clients were doing following their initial testing.

The company usually recommends nutritional support of all kinds based on the

hair analysis results.

Sara

" Labnuts@... " wrote:

> Sara:

> The research in question is only as good as the format it is modeled after.

> One must have before and after measurements from individuals in two groups; a

> placebo group and a group that is receiving the real product. Also, as Dr.

> Rife always insisted in his experiments, you must always have a control

> group....this group receives nothing and their urine must also be tested for

> excretion

> of the suspect material. And yes, I do take credence in hair analysis.

>

> Tom

> Arcadia, CA

>

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Sara:

If, as you say, you are a research scientist, then you know that without

controls, the results are purely anecdotal. What kind of scientist are you?

Dr. Hart

Arcadia, CA

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Labnuts@... wrote:

> Sara:

> If, as you say, you are a research scientist, then you know that without

> controls, the results are purely anecdotal. What kind of scientist are you?

>

> Dr. Hart

> Arcadia, CA

If this kind of research is a *problem* for you, why don't you share

with all of us exactly why your here?

Oh, and in answer to your question, I would say the " research " kind...

Khepri

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Whooppeeeee! Mel's doing ok and got more bang for her buck!! Thanks

Sharon for letting us know.

Hugs

Jo

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Why can't we sue these SOBs? That's the reason they haven't some out and

admitted it.

Anne

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Text from Meet the Press interview with Dr. Harvey Fineberg, President of

Institute of Medicine:

DR. FINEBERG said: " There's no question that mercury is a neurotoxin. And

if there were ways, which there are, to protect vaccines without using

mercury-containing substances, it was prudent to remove it, not because

there was

evidence that it caused autism or even definitive evidence that the amounts

in

those vaccines caused any neuro problems, but because it was an added

measure of precaution that was sensible and correct "

Why can't we sue these SOBs for putting poisons in our children's

vaccinations and causing them brain damage? Because they're all protected by

the

Federal Government! Where was my son's measure of precaution? I'm so sick

of this

sh_t, I hope these unrepentant people burn in h_ll. JMO, sorry if I have

offended anyone but I'm in a rage tonight.

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They need to pay for all their B.S.--

Anne wrote:Why can't we sue these SOBs? That's the

reason they haven't some out and

admitted it.

Anne

-- (no subject)

Text from Meet the Press interview with Dr. Harvey Fineberg, President of

Institute of Medicine:

DR. FINEBERG said: " There's no question that mercury is a neurotoxin. And

if there were ways, which there are, to protect vaccines without using

mercury-containing substances, it was prudent to remove it, not because

there was

evidence that it caused autism or even definitive evidence that the amounts

in

those vaccines caused any neuro problems, but because it was an added

measure of precaution that was sensible and correct "

Why can't we sue these SOBs for putting poisons in our children's

vaccinations and causing them brain damage? Because they're all protected by

the

Federal Government! Where was my son's measure of precaution? I'm so sick

of this

sh_t, I hope these unrepentant people burn in h_ll. JMO, sorry if I have

offended anyone but I'm in a rage tonight.

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Hi

I so totally understand and share your rage. Why is a child affected

by measles a " tragedy " and a child affected by a vaccine a " casualty " .

Take your rage darlin' and put it into letters to meet the press,

both of the Texas senators and your representative. Tell them in

no uncertain terms that this is an issue that you will vote on.

S

(no subject)

Text from Meet the Press interview with Dr. Harvey Fineberg, President of

Institute of Medicine:

DR. FINEBERG said: " There's no question that mercury is a neurotoxin. And

if there were ways, which there are, to protect vaccines without using

mercury-containing substances, it was prudent to remove it, not because

there was

evidence that it caused autism or even definitive evidence that the amounts

in

those vaccines caused any neuro problems, but because it was an added

measure of precaution that was sensible and correct "

Why can't we sue these SOBs for putting poisons in our children's

vaccinations and causing them brain damage? Because they're all protected by

the

Federal Government! Where was my son's measure of precaution? I'm so sick

of this

sh_t, I hope these unrepentant people burn in h_ll. JMO, sorry if I have

offended anyone but I'm in a rage tonight.

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Everyone who is mad about this, take your rage and put it into

three very important letters: Sen. Cornyn, Sen. Kay -

Hutchison, and your congressman.

Quote Dr. Fineberg's words, tell them you demand an investigation

into the CDC as to why an entire generation of children were allowed

exposure to mercury when " there were ways. . . to protect vaccines

without using mercury-containing substances. " Ask them why a

child damaged by rubella is a tragedy when a child damaged by

a vaccine is an " acceptable casualty " .

Inform them that this is an issue that you will vote on in the

next general election. Politicians count on people have very

short memories about what they do in between elections. Inform

them that just like the evidence linking thimerosal to autism,

you won't go away.

Urge the senators to support S 1422 and oppose S 354.

Urge your congressperson to support HR 881.

Sign up for the www.a-champ.org action list and do as many action

alert postings as you can.

Use your rage. Focus it into action that will help build the

autism voting block into something more powerful than the MADD

group.

S

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Text from Meet the Press interview with Dr. Harvey Fineberg, President of

Institute of Medicine:

DR. FINEBERG said: " There's no question that mercury is a neurotoxin. And

if there were ways, which there are, to protect vaccines without using

mercury-containing substances, it was prudent to remove it, not because

there was

evidence that it caused autism or even definitive evidence that the amounts

in

those vaccines caused any neuro problems, but because it was an added

measure of precaution that was sensible and correct "

Why can't we sue these SOBs for putting poisons in our children's

vaccinations and causing them brain damage? Because they're all protected by

the

Federal Government! Where was my son's measure of precaution? I'm so sick

of this

sh_t, I hope these unrepentant people burn in h_ll. JMO, sorry if I have

offended anyone but I'm in a rage tonight.

[Guest guest]

,

I join you in your rage....

Although, I don't know for sure whether thimerosal has caused my son's

Autism or not, there sure is plenty of evidence out there to suspect it and

warrant an investigation and clinical trials by our " prestigious " government

agencies. Here is what Dr. " IOM " said on Meet the Press that really irked

me:

DR. FINEBERG: ....... The only way to know whether a treatment works or

does not work compared to other things is to do the clinical trial,

comparing those who are given the treatment in a systematic and balanced way

with those who are not........

Someone should have followed by asking: Why don't you go ahead then and

have those clinical trials?!!!!

I, for once, want an answer. In the meantime, i have lost my trust in all

doctors, medicines, treatments, and stopped vaccinating without knowing the

real truth about any thing related. If they can't admit that putting a

neurotoxin in a 1 day old baby's body could lead to potential hazard, what

else are they hiding from us?

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>

>

> Text from Meet the Press interview with Dr. Harvey Fineberg, President of

> Institute of Medicine:

>

> DR. FINEBERG said: " There's no question that mercury is a neurotoxin.

> And

> if there were ways, which there are, to protect vaccines without using

> mercury-containing substances, it was prudent to remove it, not because

> there was

> evidence that it caused autism or even definitive evidence that the

> amounts

> in

> those vaccines caused any neuro problems, but because it was an added

> measure of precaution that was sensible and correct "

>

> Why can't we sue these SOBs for putting poisons in our children's

> vaccinations and causing them brain damage? Because they're all protected

> by

> the

> Federal Government! Where was my son's measure of precaution? I'm so sick

> of this

> sh_t, I hope these unrepentant people burn in h_ll. JMO, sorry if I have

> offended anyone but I'm in a rage tonight.

>

>

>

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I agree. We got the test results back yesterday from 's hair analysis

and he has a high

level of mercury in his body. We are considering chelation.

I would definitely participate in any clinical trials to prove this point.

(no subject)

>

>

> Text from Meet the Press interview with Dr. Harvey Fineberg, President of

> Institute of Medicine:

>

> DR. FINEBERG said: " There's no question that mercury is a neurotoxin.

> And

> if there were ways, which there are, to protect vaccines without using

> mercury-containing substances, it was prudent to remove it, not because

> there was

> evidence that it caused autism or even definitive evidence that the

> amounts

> in

> those vaccines caused any neuro problems, but because it was an added

> measure of precaution that was sensible and correct "

>

> Why can't we sue these SOBs for putting poisons in our children's

> vaccinations and causing them brain damage? Because they're all protected

> by

> the

> Federal Government! Where was my son's measure of precaution? I'm so sick

> of this

> sh_t, I hope these unrepentant people burn in h_ll. JMO, sorry if I have

> offended anyone but I'm in a rage tonight.

>

>

>

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Awwwww that is too funny. LOL Love JanetSHARON CROSBY wrote: Sharon in NW Washington Knitting is...time and love made tangible. Alison Hyde One day Mrs. went to have a talk with the minister at the local church. "Reverend," she said, "I have a problem, my husband keeps falling asleep during your sermons. It's very embarrassing. What should I do?" "I have an idea," said the minister. "Take this hatpin with you. I will be able to tell when Mr. is sleeping, and I will motion to you at specific times. When I motion, you give him a good poke in the leg." In church the following Sunday, Mr. dozed off. Noticing this, the preacher put his plan to work. "And who made the ultimate sacrifice for you?" he said, nodding to Mrs. . "Jesus!", cried as his wife jabbed him the leg with the hatpin. "Yes, you are right, Mr. ," said the minister. Soon, Mr. nodded off again. Again, the minister

noticed. "Who is your redeemer?" he asked the congregation, motioning towards Mrs. . "God!" Mr. cried out as he was stuck again with the hatpin. "Right again," said the minister, smiling. Before long, Mr. again winked off. However, this time the minister did not notice. As he picked up the tempo of his sermon, he made a few motions that Mrs. mistook as signals to bayonet her husband with the hatpin again. The minister asked, "And what did Eve say to Adam after she bore him his 99th son?" Mrs. poked her husband, who yelled, "You stick that goddamned thing in me one more time and I'll break it in half and shove it up your ass!" "Amen," replied the congregation. "There are souls in this world that have the gift of finding joy everywhere and of leaving it behind them when they go" Frederick Faber

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