Guest guest Report post Posted September 23, 2005 Good post, Jane, and good advice, Ric. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 23, 2005 Good post, Jane, and good advice, Ric. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 23, 2005 Good post, Jane, and good advice, Ric. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 23, 2005 Ric, Often when I post, I will delete all the stuff that doesn't pertain to the subject I am currently posting about. And yes I totally approve of being sure that OT is put in the subject line. Love Janet > > Good Post Jane. And I do know that some people, especially > outside the US, have to pay for every word used in their e-mail > program or minutes. and some only get 30 minutes in the library. > so, please, if you can, set your own e-mail program to 'don't > copy the original message in replys' You can just copy and paste > the part of the message you want to answer. That saves so much > time, please? Also remember to keep the subject line fairly > close and use the OT if it's completely off the wall. These are > common courtesy's. ric Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 23, 2005 Ric, Often when I post, I will delete all the stuff that doesn't pertain to the subject I am currently posting about. And yes I totally approve of being sure that OT is put in the subject line. Love Janet > > Good Post Jane. And I do know that some people, especially > outside the US, have to pay for every word used in their e-mail > program or minutes. and some only get 30 minutes in the library. > so, please, if you can, set your own e-mail program to 'don't > copy the original message in replys' You can just copy and paste > the part of the message you want to answer. That saves so much > time, please? Also remember to keep the subject line fairly > close and use the OT if it's completely off the wall. These are > common courtesy's. ric Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 23, 2005 Ric, Often when I post, I will delete all the stuff that doesn't pertain to the subject I am currently posting about. And yes I totally approve of being sure that OT is put in the subject line. Love Janet > > Good Post Jane. And I do know that some people, especially > outside the US, have to pay for every word used in their e-mail > program or minutes. and some only get 30 minutes in the library. > so, please, if you can, set your own e-mail program to 'don't > copy the original message in replys' You can just copy and paste > the part of the message you want to answer. That saves so much > time, please? Also remember to keep the subject line fairly > close and use the OT if it's completely off the wall. These are > common courtesy's. ric Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 23, 2005 At 05:18 PM 9/22/2005, you wrote: >Well I think I am going to have to re-think school,, >this has upset me more than anything has in the past, >I have struggled so hard to get good grades, I have to >re read things a million times and sometimes I still >cant remember what I read,, so I dont know,, maybe he >is right, I will never make a good doc, Who knows,, >anyway, have a good time,, >I love you too >jax >jax- dont give up.It's very easy to be overwhelmed but NEVER let someone >else influence what you think you are able to accomplish. >josie > > > >---------- JoEllen Donahue Hermes, L.Ac. Acupuncture & Herbal Medicine www.medicinemom.com ******************************************** CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are the property of JoEllen Donahue Hermes, L.Ac., are confidential, and intended only for the named recipient(s) above. If it has been sent to you in error, please notify the sender at and delete this message immediately from your computer. Any other use, retention,dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this e-mail is strictly forbidden. Thank you for your consideration. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 23, 2005 At 05:18 PM 9/22/2005, you wrote: >Well I think I am going to have to re-think school,, >this has upset me more than anything has in the past, >I have struggled so hard to get good grades, I have to >re read things a million times and sometimes I still >cant remember what I read,, so I dont know,, maybe he >is right, I will never make a good doc, Who knows,, >anyway, have a good time,, >I love you too >jax >jax- dont give up.It's very easy to be overwhelmed but NEVER let someone >else influence what you think you are able to accomplish. >josie > > > >---------- JoEllen Donahue Hermes, L.Ac. Acupuncture & Herbal Medicine www.medicinemom.com ******************************************** CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are the property of JoEllen Donahue Hermes, L.Ac., are confidential, and intended only for the named recipient(s) above. If it has been sent to you in error, please notify the sender at and delete this message immediately from your computer. Any other use, retention,dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this e-mail is strictly forbidden. Thank you for your consideration. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 25, 2005 Sylvia, you have AOL and thats a complete mystery to me. all I can tell you is GET RID OF IT!.. I hate aol. can you tell?....r Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 25, 2005 Sylvia, you have AOL and thats a complete mystery to me. all I can tell you is GET RID OF IT!.. I hate aol. can you tell?....r Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 25, 2005 Sylvia, you have AOL and thats a complete mystery to me. all I can tell you is GET RID OF IT!.. I hate aol. can you tell?....r Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 25, 2005 At 04:58 PM 9/25/2005, you wrote: >JoEllen....may I ask you a question? During treatment for a Black lady >(they have a very low success rate with treatment), since we needed >to use whatever would increase her chances of success, we made the >decision to give her hormone replacement since she's post- >menopausal. She is now done with her treatment (she cleared!) and >would like to stop the Premarin....but doesn't want the hot >flashes....LOL... > >I said I would look into natural hormones, risk, etc. I would >appreciate your advice. Thanks. >Silvia > Hi Silvia We treat patients for menopausal sx all the time using acupuncture itself or combined with herbs. THere are some very commonly used formulas that Clear heat and nourish the Kidney.In this context, the Kidney system, not just the viscera itself as in western medicine but - In Chinese Medicine " Kidney " pertains to aging, growth, reproduction. Often someone complaining of sx like night sweats, thirst, irritability, will be given a standard formula depending on the pattern of sx they present. This can vary sa menopuase can be very involved for some patients yet others breeze through it barely noticing it. So for example someone with alot of internal heat, night sweats, etc. will be given a different rx for example Zhi Bai Di Huang Wan than someone whose symptoms are different like for example insomnia, difficulty concentrating, poor memory- might be given somethign like An Shen Bu Xin Wan which means roughly Strengthen the Heart formula. If this patient made it through the Hep tx- the rest - managing her menopausal sx should be a piece of cake! I would encourage her to see a local acupuncturist/herbalist. for a local referral www.nccaom.org The above formulas are commonly used with success but she really should get someone local to treat and prescribe specifically for her. Often patients with HepC who are taking the pharmaceutical treatment dont want to bother with herbs too. Which I can understand sometimes. These types of herbs would have to be taken consistently or its not worth taking at all. I know I am biased because I love acupuncture and do indeed think it is the coolest thing in the world - but I still strongly suggest to anyone with hep (or menopause for that matter) to consider trying acupuncture because it really can do wonders to help manage the sx. Sorry if my replies seem so general but TCM (traditional Chinese MEd) views health and illness differently. If you sent me 12 patients with HEP C, they could possibly all have a different diagnosis - with some overlap in TCM terms. So they might all be given different acupuncture points and different herbs. Hope this helps somewhat and doesnt confuse everyone Peace Josie I > > > >Well I think I am going to have to re-think school,, > > >this has upset me more than anything has in the past, > > >I have struggled so hard to get good grades, I have to > > >re read things a million times and sometimes I still > > >cant remember what I read,, so I dont know,, maybe he > > >is right, I will never make a good doc, Who knows,, > > >anyway, have a good time,, > > >I love you too > > >jax > > > > > > > > >jax- dont give up.It's very easy to be overwhelmed but NEVER let >someone > > >else influence what you think you are able to accomplish. > > >josie > > > > > > > > > > > >---------- > > > > JoEllen Donahue Hermes, L.Ac. > > Acupuncture & Herbal Medicine > > www.medicinemom.com > > ******************************************** > > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > > This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are the property of >JoEllen > > Donahue Hermes, L.Ac., are confidential, and intended > > only for the named recipient(s) above. If it has been sent to you >in error, > > please notify the sender at and delete this message > > immediately from your computer. Any other use, >retention,dissemination, > > forwarding, printing, or copying of this e-mail is > > strictly forbidden. Thank you for your consideration. > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 25, 2005 At 04:58 PM 9/25/2005, you wrote: >JoEllen....may I ask you a question? During treatment for a Black lady >(they have a very low success rate with treatment), since we needed >to use whatever would increase her chances of success, we made the >decision to give her hormone replacement since she's post- >menopausal. She is now done with her treatment (she cleared!) and >would like to stop the Premarin....but doesn't want the hot >flashes....LOL... > >I said I would look into natural hormones, risk, etc. I would >appreciate your advice. Thanks. >Silvia > Hi Silvia We treat patients for menopausal sx all the time using acupuncture itself or combined with herbs. THere are some very commonly used formulas that Clear heat and nourish the Kidney.In this context, the Kidney system, not just the viscera itself as in western medicine but - In Chinese Medicine " Kidney " pertains to aging, growth, reproduction. Often someone complaining of sx like night sweats, thirst, irritability, will be given a standard formula depending on the pattern of sx they present. This can vary sa menopuase can be very involved for some patients yet others breeze through it barely noticing it. So for example someone with alot of internal heat, night sweats, etc. will be given a different rx for example Zhi Bai Di Huang Wan than someone whose symptoms are different like for example insomnia, difficulty concentrating, poor memory- might be given somethign like An Shen Bu Xin Wan which means roughly Strengthen the Heart formula. If this patient made it through the Hep tx- the rest - managing her menopausal sx should be a piece of cake! I would encourage her to see a local acupuncturist/herbalist. for a local referral www.nccaom.org The above formulas are commonly used with success but she really should get someone local to treat and prescribe specifically for her. Often patients with HepC who are taking the pharmaceutical treatment dont want to bother with herbs too. Which I can understand sometimes. These types of herbs would have to be taken consistently or its not worth taking at all. I know I am biased because I love acupuncture and do indeed think it is the coolest thing in the world - but I still strongly suggest to anyone with hep (or menopause for that matter) to consider trying acupuncture because it really can do wonders to help manage the sx. Sorry if my replies seem so general but TCM (traditional Chinese MEd) views health and illness differently. If you sent me 12 patients with HEP C, they could possibly all have a different diagnosis - with some overlap in TCM terms. So they might all be given different acupuncture points and different herbs. Hope this helps somewhat and doesnt confuse everyone Peace Josie I > > > >Well I think I am going to have to re-think school,, > > >this has upset me more than anything has in the past, > > >I have struggled so hard to get good grades, I have to > > >re read things a million times and sometimes I still > > >cant remember what I read,, so I dont know,, maybe he > > >is right, I will never make a good doc, Who knows,, > > >anyway, have a good time,, > > >I love you too > > >jax > > > > > > > > >jax- dont give up.It's very easy to be overwhelmed but NEVER let >someone > > >else influence what you think you are able to accomplish. > > >josie > > > > > > > > > > > >---------- > > > > JoEllen Donahue Hermes, L.Ac. > > Acupuncture & Herbal Medicine > > www.medicinemom.com > > ******************************************** > > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > > This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are the property of >JoEllen > > Donahue Hermes, L.Ac., are confidential, and intended > > only for the named recipient(s) above. If it has been sent to you >in error, > > please notify the sender at and delete this message > > immediately from your computer. Any other use, >retention,dissemination, > > forwarding, printing, or copying of this e-mail is > > strictly forbidden. Thank you for your consideration. > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 25, 2005 At 04:58 PM 9/25/2005, you wrote: >JoEllen....may I ask you a question? During treatment for a Black lady >(they have a very low success rate with treatment), since we needed >to use whatever would increase her chances of success, we made the >decision to give her hormone replacement since she's post- >menopausal. She is now done with her treatment (she cleared!) and >would like to stop the Premarin....but doesn't want the hot >flashes....LOL... > >I said I would look into natural hormones, risk, etc. I would >appreciate your advice. Thanks. >Silvia > Hi Silvia We treat patients for menopausal sx all the time using acupuncture itself or combined with herbs. THere are some very commonly used formulas that Clear heat and nourish the Kidney.In this context, the Kidney system, not just the viscera itself as in western medicine but - In Chinese Medicine " Kidney " pertains to aging, growth, reproduction. Often someone complaining of sx like night sweats, thirst, irritability, will be given a standard formula depending on the pattern of sx they present. This can vary sa menopuase can be very involved for some patients yet others breeze through it barely noticing it. So for example someone with alot of internal heat, night sweats, etc. will be given a different rx for example Zhi Bai Di Huang Wan than someone whose symptoms are different like for example insomnia, difficulty concentrating, poor memory- might be given somethign like An Shen Bu Xin Wan which means roughly Strengthen the Heart formula. If this patient made it through the Hep tx- the rest - managing her menopausal sx should be a piece of cake! I would encourage her to see a local acupuncturist/herbalist. for a local referral www.nccaom.org The above formulas are commonly used with success but she really should get someone local to treat and prescribe specifically for her. Often patients with HepC who are taking the pharmaceutical treatment dont want to bother with herbs too. Which I can understand sometimes. These types of herbs would have to be taken consistently or its not worth taking at all. I know I am biased because I love acupuncture and do indeed think it is the coolest thing in the world - but I still strongly suggest to anyone with hep (or menopause for that matter) to consider trying acupuncture because it really can do wonders to help manage the sx. Sorry if my replies seem so general but TCM (traditional Chinese MEd) views health and illness differently. If you sent me 12 patients with HEP C, they could possibly all have a different diagnosis - with some overlap in TCM terms. So they might all be given different acupuncture points and different herbs. Hope this helps somewhat and doesnt confuse everyone Peace Josie I > > > >Well I think I am going to have to re-think school,, > > >this has upset me more than anything has in the past, > > >I have struggled so hard to get good grades, I have to > > >re read things a million times and sometimes I still > > >cant remember what I read,, so I dont know,, maybe he > > >is right, I will never make a good doc, Who knows,, > > >anyway, have a good time,, > > >I love you too > > >jax > > > > > > > > >jax- dont give up.It's very easy to be overwhelmed but NEVER let >someone > > >else influence what you think you are able to accomplish. > > >josie > > > > > > > > > > > >---------- > > > > JoEllen Donahue Hermes, L.Ac. > > Acupuncture & Herbal Medicine > > www.medicinemom.com > > ******************************************** > > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > > This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are the property of >JoEllen > > Donahue Hermes, L.Ac., are confidential, and intended > > only for the named recipient(s) above. If it has been sent to you >in error, > > please notify the sender at and delete this message > > immediately from your computer. Any other use, >retention,dissemination, > > forwarding, printing, or copying of this e-mail is > > strictly forbidden. Thank you for your consideration. > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 26, 2005 Liz....where have you been? We've been making sure nobody run out of meds. Same with people who get their prescriptions from mail in pharmacies in Lousiana. The drug companies were very generous and gave us whatever we needed. Getting them there was the difficult part. Sivia > > I hadnt even thought about how Katrina was going to effect those on treatment in the effected areas . I am so glad that your insurance for now is going to not be canceled . Take care > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 26, 2005 Liz....where have you been? We've been making sure nobody run out of meds. Same with people who get their prescriptions from mail in pharmacies in Lousiana. The drug companies were very generous and gave us whatever we needed. Getting them there was the difficult part. Sivia > > I hadnt even thought about how Katrina was going to effect those on treatment in the effected areas . I am so glad that your insurance for now is going to not be canceled . Take care > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 26, 2005 Liz....where have you been? We've been making sure nobody run out of meds. Same with people who get their prescriptions from mail in pharmacies in Lousiana. The drug companies were very generous and gave us whatever we needed. Getting them there was the difficult part. Sivia > > I hadnt even thought about how Katrina was going to effect those on treatment in the effected areas . I am so glad that your insurance for now is going to not be canceled . Take care > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 26, 2005 Is msn better? Silvia > Sylvia, you have AOL and thats a complete mystery to me. all I > can tell you is GET RID OF IT!.. I hate aol. can you tell?....r Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 26, 2005 Is msn better? Silvia > Sylvia, you have AOL and thats a complete mystery to me. all I > can tell you is GET RID OF IT!.. I hate aol. can you tell?....r Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 26, 2005 Is msn better? Silvia > Sylvia, you have AOL and thats a complete mystery to me. all I > can tell you is GET RID OF IT!.. I hate aol. can you tell?....r Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 26, 2005 Thank you....I have copied your response and forwarded it to her. You're right....this lady is amazing. One of the lucky ones that breezed through treatment. I'm ashamed to say that I know very little about herbal products. I probably know more about the ones that can be dangerous/ I am always afraid of herbs being contaminated or having fungal growth or something like that.....or even worse, interfering with the treatment meds. One of the boys on this site....I think it's (still can't keep names straight).....who has anemia and fatigue and asked about the root. I saw another post where he asked about gingseng......so I did a little research and found that high doses can cause anxiety, insomnia, etc. and it can be contaminated with small amounts of lead or have fungal growth on the roots. That's enough for me to tell him to forget it. Plus I think it may cause people to become a little " hyper " but that is not going to improve the hemoglobin. Since I know will just look for something else, I thought I'd find him something safe that may actually raise the hemoglobin....and after careful consideration, my choice would have to be.....Juzen-Taiho-To...one of the Kampo products which contains bone marrow-stimulating compounds. What do you think? Silvia > > > >Well I think I am going to have to re-think school,, > > > >this has upset me more than anything has in the past, > > > >I have struggled so hard to get good grades, I have to > > > >re read things a million times and sometimes I still > > > >cant remember what I read,, so I dont know,, maybe he > > > >is right, I will never make a good doc, Who knows,, > > > >anyway, have a good time,, > > > >I love you too > > > >jax > > > > > > > > > > > > >jax- dont give up.It's very easy to be overwhelmed but NEVER let > >someone > > > >else influence what you think you are able to accomplish. > > > >josie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >---------- > > > > > > JoEllen Donahue Hermes, L.Ac. > > > Acupuncture & Herbal Medicine > > > www.medicinemom.com > > > ******************************************** > > > > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > > > This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are the property of > >JoEllen > > > Donahue Hermes, L.Ac., are confidential, and intended > > > only for the named recipient(s) above. If it has been sent to you > >in error, > > > please notify the sender at and delete this message > > > immediately from your computer. Any other use, > >retention,dissemination, > > > forwarding, printing, or copying of this e-mail is > > > strictly forbidden. Thank you for your consideration. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 26, 2005 Thank you....I have copied your response and forwarded it to her. You're right....this lady is amazing. One of the lucky ones that breezed through treatment. I'm ashamed to say that I know very little about herbal products. I probably know more about the ones that can be dangerous/ I am always afraid of herbs being contaminated or having fungal growth or something like that.....or even worse, interfering with the treatment meds. One of the boys on this site....I think it's (still can't keep names straight).....who has anemia and fatigue and asked about the root. I saw another post where he asked about gingseng......so I did a little research and found that high doses can cause anxiety, insomnia, etc. and it can be contaminated with small amounts of lead or have fungal growth on the roots. That's enough for me to tell him to forget it. Plus I think it may cause people to become a little " hyper " but that is not going to improve the hemoglobin. Since I know will just look for something else, I thought I'd find him something safe that may actually raise the hemoglobin....and after careful consideration, my choice would have to be.....Juzen-Taiho-To...one of the Kampo products which contains bone marrow-stimulating compounds. What do you think? Silvia > > > >Well I think I am going to have to re-think school,, > > > >this has upset me more than anything has in the past, > > > >I have struggled so hard to get good grades, I have to > > > >re read things a million times and sometimes I still > > > >cant remember what I read,, so I dont know,, maybe he > > > >is right, I will never make a good doc, Who knows,, > > > >anyway, have a good time,, > > > >I love you too > > > >jax > > > > > > > > > > > > >jax- dont give up.It's very easy to be overwhelmed but NEVER let > >someone > > > >else influence what you think you are able to accomplish. > > > >josie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >---------- > > > > > > JoEllen Donahue Hermes, L.Ac. > > > Acupuncture & Herbal Medicine > > > www.medicinemom.com > > > ******************************************** > > > > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > > > This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are the property of > >JoEllen > > > Donahue Hermes, L.Ac., are confidential, and intended > > > only for the named recipient(s) above. If it has been sent to you > >in error, > > > please notify the sender at and delete this message > > > immediately from your computer. Any other use, > >retention,dissemination, > > > forwarding, printing, or copying of this e-mail is > > > strictly forbidden. Thank you for your consideration. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 26, 2005 Thank you....I have copied your response and forwarded it to her. You're right....this lady is amazing. One of the lucky ones that breezed through treatment. I'm ashamed to say that I know very little about herbal products. I probably know more about the ones that can be dangerous/ I am always afraid of herbs being contaminated or having fungal growth or something like that.....or even worse, interfering with the treatment meds. One of the boys on this site....I think it's (still can't keep names straight).....who has anemia and fatigue and asked about the root. I saw another post where he asked about gingseng......so I did a little research and found that high doses can cause anxiety, insomnia, etc. and it can be contaminated with small amounts of lead or have fungal growth on the roots. That's enough for me to tell him to forget it. Plus I think it may cause people to become a little " hyper " but that is not going to improve the hemoglobin. Since I know will just look for something else, I thought I'd find him something safe that may actually raise the hemoglobin....and after careful consideration, my choice would have to be.....Juzen-Taiho-To...one of the Kampo products which contains bone marrow-stimulating compounds. What do you think? Silvia > > > >Well I think I am going to have to re-think school,, > > > >this has upset me more than anything has in the past, > > > >I have struggled so hard to get good grades, I have to > > > >re read things a million times and sometimes I still > > > >cant remember what I read,, so I dont know,, maybe he > > > >is right, I will never make a good doc, Who knows,, > > > >anyway, have a good time,, > > > >I love you too > > > >jax > > > > > > > > > > > > >jax- dont give up.It's very easy to be overwhelmed but NEVER let > >someone > > > >else influence what you think you are able to accomplish. > > > >josie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >---------- > > > > > > JoEllen Donahue Hermes, L.Ac. > > > Acupuncture & Herbal Medicine > > > www.medicinemom.com > > > ******************************************** > > > > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > > > This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are the property of > >JoEllen > > > Donahue Hermes, L.Ac., are confidential, and intended > > > only for the named recipient(s) above. If it has been sent to you > >in error, > > > please notify the sender at and delete this message > > > immediately from your computer. Any other use, > >retention,dissemination, > > > forwarding, printing, or copying of this e-mail is > > > strictly forbidden. Thank you for your consideration. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 26, 2005 One of the natural hormone replacements is black cohosh , tell her to stay away from it . It is hepatatoxic . " JoEllen Donahue Hermes L.Ac. " wrote:At 04:58 PM 9/25/2005, you wrote: >JoEllen....may I ask you a question? During treatment for a Black lady >(they have a very low success rate with treatment), since we needed >to use whatever would increase her chances of success, we made the >decision to give her hormone replacement since she's post- >menopausal. She is now done with her treatment (she cleared!) and >would like to stop the Premarin....but doesn't want the hot >flashes....LOL... > >I said I would look into natural hormones, risk, etc. I would >appreciate your advice. Thanks. >Silvia > Hi Silvia We treat patients for menopausal sx all the time using acupuncture itself or combined with herbs. THere are some very commonly used formulas that Clear heat and nourish the Kidney.In this context, the Kidney system, not just the viscera itself as in western medicine but - In Chinese Medicine " Kidney " pertains to aging, growth, reproduction. Often someone complaining of sx like night sweats, thirst, irritability, will be given a standard formula depending on the pattern of sx they present. This can vary sa menopuase can be very involved for some patients yet others breeze through it barely noticing it. So for example someone with alot of internal heat, night sweats, etc. will be given a different rx for example Zhi Bai Di Huang Wan than someone whose symptoms are different like for example insomnia, difficulty concentrating, poor memory- might be given somethign like An Shen Bu Xin Wan which means roughly Strengthen the Heart formula. If this patient made it through the Hep tx- the rest - managing her menopausal sx should be a piece of cake! I would encourage her to see a local acupuncturist/herbalist. for a local referral www.nccaom.org The above formulas are commonly used with success but she really should get someone local to treat and prescribe specifically for her. Often patients with HepC who are taking the pharmaceutical treatment dont want to bother with herbs too. Which I can understand sometimes. These types of herbs would have to be taken consistently or its not worth taking at all. I know I am biased because I love acupuncture and do indeed think it is the coolest thing in the world - but I still strongly suggest to anyone with hep (or menopause for that matter) to consider trying acupuncture because it really can do wonders to help manage the sx. Sorry if my replies seem so general but TCM (traditional Chinese MEd) views health and illness differently. If you sent me 12 patients with HEP C, they could possibly all have a different diagnosis - with some overlap in TCM terms. So they might all be given different acupuncture points and different herbs. Hope this helps somewhat and doesnt confuse everyone Peace Josie I > > > >Well I think I am going to have to re-think school,, > > >this has upset me more than anything has in the past, > > >I have struggled so hard to get good grades, I have to > > >re read things a million times and sometimes I still > > >cant remember what I read,, so I dont know,, maybe he > > >is right, I will never make a good doc, Who knows,, > > >anyway, have a good time,, > > >I love you too > > >jax > > > > > > > > >jax- dont give up.It's very easy to be overwhelmed but NEVER let >someone > > >else influence what you think you are able to accomplish. > > >josie > > > > > > > > > > > >---------- > > > > JoEllen Donahue Hermes, L.Ac. > > Acupuncture & Herbal Medicine > > www.medicinemom.com > > ******************************************** > > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > > This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are the property of >JoEllen > > Donahue Hermes, L.Ac., are confidential, and intended > > only for the named recipient(s) above. If it has been sent to you >in error, > > please notify the sender at and delete this message > > immediately from your computer. Any other use, >retention,dissemination, > > forwarding, printing, or copying of this e-mail is > > strictly forbidden. Thank you for your consideration. > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 26, 2005 One of the natural hormone replacements is black cohosh , tell her to stay away from it . It is hepatatoxic . " JoEllen Donahue Hermes L.Ac. " wrote:At 04:58 PM 9/25/2005, you wrote: >JoEllen....may I ask you a question? During treatment for a Black lady >(they have a very low success rate with treatment), since we needed >to use whatever would increase her chances of success, we made the >decision to give her hormone replacement since she's post- >menopausal. She is now done with her treatment (she cleared!) and >would like to stop the Premarin....but doesn't want the hot >flashes....LOL... > >I said I would look into natural hormones, risk, etc. I would >appreciate your advice. Thanks. >Silvia > Hi Silvia We treat patients for menopausal sx all the time using acupuncture itself or combined with herbs. THere are some very commonly used formulas that Clear heat and nourish the Kidney.In this context, the Kidney system, not just the viscera itself as in western medicine but - In Chinese Medicine " Kidney " pertains to aging, growth, reproduction. Often someone complaining of sx like night sweats, thirst, irritability, will be given a standard formula depending on the pattern of sx they present. This can vary sa menopuase can be very involved for some patients yet others breeze through it barely noticing it. So for example someone with alot of internal heat, night sweats, etc. will be given a different rx for example Zhi Bai Di Huang Wan than someone whose symptoms are different like for example insomnia, difficulty concentrating, poor memory- might be given somethign like An Shen Bu Xin Wan which means roughly Strengthen the Heart formula. If this patient made it through the Hep tx- the rest - managing her menopausal sx should be a piece of cake! I would encourage her to see a local acupuncturist/herbalist. for a local referral www.nccaom.org The above formulas are commonly used with success but she really should get someone local to treat and prescribe specifically for her. Often patients with HepC who are taking the pharmaceutical treatment dont want to bother with herbs too. Which I can understand sometimes. These types of herbs would have to be taken consistently or its not worth taking at all. I know I am biased because I love acupuncture and do indeed think it is the coolest thing in the world - but I still strongly suggest to anyone with hep (or menopause for that matter) to consider trying acupuncture because it really can do wonders to help manage the sx. Sorry if my replies seem so general but TCM (traditional Chinese MEd) views health and illness differently. If you sent me 12 patients with HEP C, they could possibly all have a different diagnosis - with some overlap in TCM terms. So they might all be given different acupuncture points and different herbs. Hope this helps somewhat and doesnt confuse everyone Peace Josie I > > > >Well I think I am going to have to re-think school,, > > >this has upset me more than anything has in the past, > > >I have struggled so hard to get good grades, I have to > > >re read things a million times and sometimes I still > > >cant remember what I read,, so I dont know,, maybe he > > >is right, I will never make a good doc, Who knows,, > > >anyway, have a good time,, > > >I love you too > > >jax > > > > > > > > >jax- dont give up.It's very easy to be overwhelmed but NEVER let >someone > > >else influence what you think you are able to accomplish. > > >josie > > > > > > > > > > > >---------- > > > > JoEllen Donahue Hermes, L.Ac. > > Acupuncture & Herbal Medicine > > www.medicinemom.com > > ******************************************** > > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > > This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are the property of >JoEllen > > Donahue Hermes, L.Ac., are confidential, and intended > > only for the named recipient(s) above. If it has been sent to you >in error, > > please notify the sender at and delete this message > > immediately from your computer. Any other use, >retention,dissemination, > > forwarding, printing, or copying of this e-mail is > > strictly forbidden. Thank you for your consideration. > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
