RE: Anyone not anti-depressants during treatment?

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Worry wart , lmao

[Hepatitis_C_ Central] Anyone not anti-depressants during treatment?

Quick question. Is their anyone here on treatment that is NOT onanti-depressants? I ask because I am starting treatment and my drsaid that I did not need to be on them because I have had no historyof depression. I guess I am going to see how I feel while on peg/rib and if I feelsad, etc then I will get a script for them.

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I don’t dispute the fact that

interferon can cause serious problems.  I already knew that.  My estranged

husband refused to tx years ago because of his mental instability and knew it

could send him over the edge.  I did a lot of research back then and that was

at least 10 years ago and long before I considered my own tx.

At each visit with my hepatologist during

tx, I was asked to complete a questionnaire that I called the “Suicide

Survey” with questions such as, “Do you feel sad?” and “Have

you made excuses not to see friends or family?” and “Have you

thought about suicide?”  They did not take the possibility lightly.

My objection is that someone starting out

on tx shouldn’t be led to believe that depression is inevitable.  This tx

is scary enough and it’s just not true.  I may not have taken a poll of

50,000 patients, but I do know a handful of close friends who lived it and none

of us were on anti-depressants.

Is it an easy treatment?  No.  We all know

that.  You are absolutely right……..your outlook and support

structure mean a lot.  I tried to see past the 24 weeks and knew that it wouldn’t

last forever.  I came close to quitting when my arthritis got so bad, I could

hardly get out of bed.  I got encouragement here from the members of this group

and from my family and friends which meant a lot in keeping me going.

I am not suggesting that anti-depressants

don’t play an important role in the tx of HCV……..just not in

every case.

Dorothy

From: Hepatitis_C_Central [mailto:Hepatitis_C_Central ] On Behalf Of elizabethnv1

Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008

12:15 AM

To: Hepatitis_C_Central

Subject: Re:

Anyone not anti-depressants during treatment?

I am on your side of this one Dorothy , but I also know a

few people who went kinda wacko on treatment . I think allot of it depends on

your outlook and support structure

[Hepatitis_C_ Central]

Anyone not anti-depressants during treatment?

Quick

question. Is their anyone here on treatment that is NOT on

anti-depressants? I ask because I am starting treatment and my dr

said that I did not need to be on them because I have had no history

of depression.

I guess I am going to see how I feel while on peg/rib and if I feel

sad, etc then I will get a script for them.

[Guest guest]

I think the anti-depressant issue is a personal circumstances

situation, based on the fact that interferon has been proven to cause

depression. My Dr suggested it when I was on treatment, because I

already had bouts of depression regarding infertility (we never had

kids). Im glad I went on Lexapro , it helped during treatment and

overall. I still ended up divorced, but that was bound to happen either

way, as my ex had unkind words about my hep (and many other things I

dont need to share here lol). So, if you feel a tendency toward

depression and are going on Interferon I think its a good idea to take

them. Ok thats my two cents.

>

> Quick question. Is their anyone here on treatment that is NOT on

> anti-depressants? I ask because I am starting treatment and my dr

> said that I did not need to be on them because I have had no history

> of depression.

>

> I guess I am going to see how I feel while on peg/rib and if I feel

> sad, etc then I will get a script for them.

>

[Guest guest]

“Has

been shown to moderate” is not the same as “always depletes.”

Then

again, I’ve been depressed all my life, and was on 3 anti-depressants

before starting this last treatment.

m

From:

Hepatitis_C_Central

[mailto:Hepatitis_C_Central ] On

Behalf Of Jackie on

Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 10:24

PM

To:

Hepatitis_C_Central

Subject: RE:

Re: Anyone not anti-depressants during treatment?

here is one of many article regarding interferon

induced depression

Neurotransmitter

changes by interferon-alpha and therapeutic implications

by

Schaefer M, Schwaiger M, Pich M, Lieb K, Heinz A.

Department of Psychiatry and Psychotherapy,

Charite - University Medicine Berlin,

Campus Charite-Mitte (CCM), Berlin, Germany.

Pharmacopsychiatry. 2003 Dec;36

Suppl 3:203-6

ABSTRACT

Interferon alpha

(IFN-alpha) is a cytokine that is widely used for the treatment of chronic

viral infection or malignant disorders. During treatment with IFN-alpha,

severe neuropsychiatric syndromes may occur such as depression with suicidal

ideation, paranoid psychoses or confusional states. The neurobiological

correlates of these side effects are widely unknown. Besides induction of

other cytokines and hormonal changes, IFN-alpha has been shown to modulate

the opioid, serotonin, dopamine and glutamate neurotransmitter system.

Positive therapeutic effects of antidepressants such as selective

serotonin-reuptake-inhibitors (SSRI) or of opioid receptor antagonists

support the hypothesis that neurotransmitter changes play an important role

in the development of IFN-alpha associated neuropsychiatric side effects. We

review recent research about IFN-associated neurotransmitter changes in the

central nervous system and discuss treatment strategies.

_,_._,___

[Guest guest]

That is my point. I was never

arguing the fact that interferon has been known to present problems associated

with depression. I just objected to the suggestion that just about

everyone will have problems and should consider the use of anti-depressants.

I feel very fortunate to have completed tx without the use of any more drugs

beside Procrit. Anti-depressants alone can cause a multitude of problems

so why add those to a tx that is already challenging…..to say the least.

I hope that massgal and anyone else

looking to this group for advice and answers will understand that because

Jackie states that “nearly everyone” of the 50,000+ people she

refers to did need anti-d’s, it doesn’t mean that there isn’t

another 50,000 who didn’t. Lots of people lose their hair…….lots

of people don’t. Lots of people experience insomnia and lots don’t.

Let’s just say that your mileage may

vary. Those just starting tx have enough stress about their

illness and tx without having to worry about something that not occur.

Many people DO require anti-d’s to

help them manage through tx and for those people, they are a Godsend.

Dorothy

From: Hepatitis_C_Central [mailto:Hepatitis_C_Central ] On Behalf Of Matchinsky

Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008

10:04 AM

To: Hepatitis_C_Central

Subject: RE:

Re: Anyone not anti-depressants during treatment?

“Has been shown to moderate” is not the same

as “always depletes.”

Then again, I’ve been depressed all my life, and

was on 3 anti-depressants before starting this last treatment.

m

From: Hepatitis_C_Central

[mailto:Hepatitis_C_Central ]

On Behalf Of Jackie on

Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 10:24

PM

To: Hepatitis_C_Central

Subject: RE:

Re: Anyone not anti-depressants during treatment?

here is one of

many article regarding interferon induced depression

Neurotransmitter changes by

interferon-alpha and therapeutic implications

by

Schaefer M, Schwaiger M, Pich M, Lieb K, Heinz A.

Department of Psychiatry and Psychotherapy,

Charite - University Medicine Berlin,

Campus Charite-Mitte (CCM), Berlin,

Germany.

Pharmacopsychiatry. 2003 Dec;36

Suppl 3:203-6

ABSTRACT

Interferon

alpha (IFN-alpha) is a cytokine that is widely used for the treatment of

chronic viral infection or malignant disorders. During treatment with

IFN-alpha, severe neuropsychiatric syndromes may occur such as depression

with suicidal ideation, paranoid psychoses or confusional states. The

neurobiological correlates of these side effects are widely unknown. Besides

induction of other cytokines and hormonal changes, IFN-alpha has been shown

to modulate the opioid, serotonin, dopamine and glutamate neurotransmitter

system. Positive therapeutic effects of antidepressants such as selective

serotonin-reuptake-inhibitors (SSRI) or of opioid receptor antagonists

support the hypothesis that neurotransmitter changes play an important role

in the development of IFN-alpha associated neuropsychiatric side effects. We

review recent research about IFN-associated neurotransmitter changes in the

central nervous system and discuss treatment strategies.

_,_._,___

[Guest guest]

including genotypes?

brandi

To: Hepatitis_C_Central From: elizabethnv1@...Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 21:09:53 -0700Subject: Re: Anyone not anti-depressants during treatment?

I went through 15 months of treatment , then treated 4 other times ( varying time lengths) and I never had to take an antidepressant . I have an excellent support system at home and at anytime if I started to suffer from severe depression my family would have told my doctors . So not all people have to take them , there are allot of mitigating factors

Anyone not anti-depressants during treatment?

Quick question. Is their anyone here on treatment that is NOT onanti-depressants? I ask because I am starting treatment and my drsaid that I did not need to be on them because I have had no historyof depression. I guess I am going to see how I feel while on peg/rib and if I feelsad, etc then I will get a script for them.

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There seems to be a trend of those with prior depression needing more help while on tx. I know I have been depressed all my life and am now, 1 year post tx, still fighting to find the right pill or combination of pills to keep me off the floor. Perhaps it too is an individual need that people on tx need?Sharon in NW Washington Knitting is...time and love made tangible. Alison Hyde Re: Anyone not anti-depressants during treatment?I think the anti-depressant issue is a personal circumstances situation, based on the fact that interferon has been proven to cause depression. My Dr suggested it when I was on treatment, because I already had bouts of depression regarding infertility (we never had kids). Im glad I went on Lexapro , it helped during treatment and overall. I still ended up divorced, but that was bound to happen either way, as my ex had unkind words about my hep (and many other things I dont need to share here lol). So, if you feel a tendency toward depression and are going on Interferon I think its a good idea to take them. Ok thats my two cents.

[Guest guest]

I don’t believe your genotype has

anything to do with depression or the need for anti-depressants. It could,

however, have some bearing due to the fact that some genotypes require longer

treatment.

The longer the treatment time, the longer

the time when the interferon could cause problems whether they be physical side

effects or mental/emotional ones.

Dorothy

From: Hepatitis_C_Central [mailto:Hepatitis_C_Central ] On Behalf Of Sandie Snyder

Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008

1:17 PM

To:

hepatitis_c_central

Subject: RE:

Anyone not anti-depressants during treatment?

including genotypes?

brandi

To: Hepatitis_C_Central

From: elizabethnv1earthlink (DOT) net

Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 21:09:53 -0700

Subject: Re: Anyone not anti-depressants during

treatment?

I went through 15 months of treatment , then treated 4 other

times ( varying time lengths) and I never had to take an antidepressant . I

have an excellent support system at home and at anytime if I started to suffer

from severe depression my family would have told my doctors . So not all people

have to take them , there are allot of mitigating factors

Anyone not anti-depressants during treatment?

Quick question. Is their anyone here on treatment that

is NOT on

anti-depressants? I ask because I am starting treatment and my dr

said that I did not need to be on them because I have had no history

of depression.

I guess I am going to see how I feel while on peg/rib and if I feel

sad, etc then I will get a script for them.

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[Guest guest]

The genotype is not a factor since each are treated with interferon type drugs , just the length of time of treatment is different

Anyone not anti-depressants during treatment?

Quick question. Is their anyone here on treatment that is NOT onanti-depressants? I ask because I am starting treatment and my drsaid that I did not need to be on them because I have had no historyof depression. I guess I am going to see how I feel while on peg/rib and if I feelsad, etc then I will get a script for them.

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[Guest guest]

I dont think genotype has anything to do with depression unless it correlates with the amount of time one needs to do treatment. Geno 1 and 4's do tx for 48 weeks while geno 2 and 3 do 24 weeks unless the doc has a reason to make it longerJackieSubject: RE: Anyone not anti-depressants during treatment?To: hepatitis_c_central Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 10:16 AM

including genotypes?

brandi

To: Hepatitis_C_ Central@yahoogro ups.comFrom: elizabethnv1@ earthlink. netDate: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 21:09:53 -0700Subject: Re: [Hepatitis_C_ Central] Anyone not anti-depressants during treatment?

I went through 15 months of treatment , then treated 4 other times ( varying time lengths) and I never had to take an antidepressant . I have an excellent support system at home and at anytime if I started to suffer from severe depression my family would have told my doctors . So not all people have to take them , there are allot of mitigating factors

[Hepatitis_C_ Central] Anyone not anti-depressants during treatment?

Quick question. Is their anyone here on treatment that is NOT onanti-depressants? I ask because I am starting treatment and my drsaid that I did not need to be on them because I have had no historyof depression. I guess I am going to see how I feel while on peg/rib and if I feelsad, etc then I will get a script for them.

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Bi-Polar Disorder.

brandi

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> > I was already on them when I started treatment so I will probably

> continue on them during and after treatment.  I just wish they would

> wean me off the Lithium already

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> > Quick question. Is their anyone here on treatment that is NOT on

> > anti-depressants? I ask because I am starting treatment and my dr

> > said that I did not need to be on them because I have had no

history

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> > I guess I am going to see how I feel while on peg/rib and if I

feel

> > sad, etc then I will get a script for them.

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[Guest guest]

Can the genotype also affect other things? Like...TYPE of symptoms,

duration of illness, probability of more liver damage, or anything

else?

Thanx!!

brandi

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> The genotype is not a factor since each are treated with interferon

type drugs , just the length of time of treatment is different

> Anyone not anti-depressants

during treatment?

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> Quick question. Is their anyone here on treatment that is NOT

on

> anti-depressants? I ask because I am starting treatment and

my dr

> said that I did not need to be on them because I have had no

history

> of depression.

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> I guess I am going to see how I feel while on peg/rib and if

I feel

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not that I know of .. genotype is more important when trying to figure out how long one has to do treatment.. but geno 1's and 4's are harder to treat with geno 1b the hardest. Geno 3 tend to get 'fatty liver' and cirrhosis quicker than some of the others,, geno 2 is the most easily treated genotype. but unfortunately, they all move toward cirrhosis if not treated and they are active. JackieSubject: Re: Anyone not anti-depressants during treatment?To: Hepatitis_C_Central Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 6:37 PM

Can the genotype also affect other things? Like...TYPE of symptoms,

duration of illness, probability of more liver damage, or anything

else?

Thanx!!

brandi

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> The genotype is not a factor since each are treated with interferon

type drugs , just the length of time of treatment is different

> [Hepatitis_C_ Central] Anyone not anti-depressants

during treatment?

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> Quick question. Is their anyone here on treatment that is NOT

on

> anti-depressants? I ask because I am starting treatment and

my dr

> said that I did not need to be on them because I have had no

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> I guess I am going to see how I feel while on peg/rib and if

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Genotyping doesn't really have any significant difference as far as symptoms go , but duration a person has been sick does .

Anyone not anti-depressants during treatment?> > > Quick question. Is their anyone here on treatment that is NOT on> anti-depressants? I ask because I am starting treatment and my dr> said that I did not need to be on them because I have had no history> of depression. > > I guess I am going to see how I feel while on peg/rib and if I feel> sad, etc then I will get a script for them.> > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------> Need to know now? Get instant answers with Windows Live Messenger. IM on your terms.>

[Guest guest]

Excellent info Jackie, cleared up alot for me! Thanx!!

brandi

PS-if they are " active " , which tests show if they are " active " ?

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I thought this was a good plan too until I talked to my Doctors about

needing it during treatment. She explained why I needed to start now

and not wait until I had no serotonin left in my brain. It took 2

weeks of feeling sick to my stomach and adjusting the time to take it

that worked best. Then it took 2 months before it started to work.

If you had a problem it would be too late to fix it or it most

certainly would make me even sicker while on TX

That's why I chose to start now rather than wait until I hear voices

or some horrible thing like suicide is attempted. Personally I have a

very stable life and I still freaked out about the HepC and the

antidepressants have made it so much easier to deal with all the gawd

awful tests and Doctor visits and that fack that I need a liver

transplant.

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> >

> > Quick question. Is their anyone here on treatment that is NOT on

> > anti-depressants? I ask because I am starting treatment and my dr

> > said that I did not need to be on them because I have had no

history

> > of depression.

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> > I guess I am going to see how I feel while on peg/rib and if I

feel

> > sad, etc then I will get a script for them.

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[Guest guest]

" duration a person has been sick " ?

You mean like if a person had it over 30 years for example, chances

are higher that it be one type? As opoosed to someone only recently

exposed, they would likely be another type?

brandi

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> > The genotype is not a factor since each are treated with

interferon

> type drugs , just the length of time of treatment is different

> > Anyone not anti-depressants

> during treatment?

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> >

> > Quick question. Is their anyone here on treatment that is NOT

> on

> > anti-depressants? I ask because I am starting treatment and

> my dr

> > said that I did not need to be on them because I have had no

> history

> > of depression.

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People who are newly infected have less damage to their livers opposed to someone who has been sick for 20yrs . Genotyping only is important in figuring the duration of treatment time .

Anyone not anti-depressants > during treatment?> > > > > > Quick question. Is their anyone here on treatment that is NOT > on> > anti-depressants? I ask because I am starting treatment and > my dr> > said that I did not need to be on them because I have had no > history> > of depression. > > > > I guess I am going to see how I feel while on peg/rib and if > I feel> > sad, etc then I will get a script for them.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------> ----------> > Need to know now? Get instant answers with Windows Live > Messenger. IM on your terms.> >>

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what I think Liz was trying to say is that genotype has nothing to do with how much damage you have,, duration does,, if you're a genotype 2 and have had it for 30 years, you can expect to have damage,, same thing if you're a geno 1.. but if you've only had it maybe 5 years, you might not have much damage. Most in America have geno 1 or so they say, ppl in china typically have another genotype, but all genotypes are found in every continent throughout the world..JackieSubject: Re: Anyone not anti-depressants during treatment?To: Hepatitis_C_Central Date:

Thursday, June 26, 2008, 10:19 AM

"duration a person has been sick"?

You mean like if a person had it over 30 years for example, chances

are higher that it be one type? As opoosed to someone only recently

exposed, they would likely be another type?

brandi

> >

> > The genotype is not a factor since each are treated with

interferon

> type drugs , just the length of time of treatment is different

> > [Hepatitis_C_ Central] Anyone not anti-depressants

> during treatment?

> >

> >

> > Quick question. Is their anyone here on treatment that is NOT

> on

> > anti-depressants? I ask because I am starting treatment and

> my dr

> > said that I did not need to be on them because I have had no

> history

> > of depression.

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> > I guess I am going to see how I feel while on peg/rib and if

> I feel

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Your doc was very wise .. had you waited and gotten seriously depressed or unstable, you would have been pulled from treatment BECAUSE these drugs take awhile to start working... Im glad you had a very proactive doc.. I had one too and it saved me on tx.JackieSubject: Re: Anyone not anti-depressants during treatment?To: Hepatitis_C_Central Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008, 6:46 AM

I thought this was a good plan too until I talked to my Doctors about

needing it during treatment. She explained why I needed to start now

and not wait until I had no serotonin left in my brain. It took 2

weeks of feeling sick to my stomach and adjusting the time to take it

that worked best. Then it took 2 months before it started to work.

If you had a problem it would be too late to fix it or it most

certainly would make me even sicker while on TX

That's why I chose to start now rather than wait until I hear voices

or some horrible thing like suicide is attempted. Personally I have a

very stable life and I still freaked out about the HepC and the

antidepressants have made it so much easier to deal with all the gawd

awful tests and Doctor visits and that fack that I need a liver

transplant.

>

> >

> > Quick question. Is their anyone here on treatment that is NOT on

> > anti-depressants? I ask because I am starting treatment and my dr

> > said that I did not need to be on them because I have had no

history

> > of depression.

> >

> > I guess I am going to see how I feel while on peg/rib and if I

feel

> > sad, etc then I will get a script for them.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

the test that shows if the virus is active is part of the biopsy.. they tell what stage of damage you have, thats rated from 0-4 with 4 being fully cirrhosed, stage 0-1 being little to no damage.. THEN they also give you a GRADE of inflammation, that is the part that tells if your virus is active,, its graded on a 0-1 to 4 as well with 4 being very very active and 0-1 being low activity. When they do the blood tests, the PCR, it tells if you are positive to the virus antibodies and your viral load will tell if you have any virus in your blood.. see some ppl test pos to the antibodies but when they do the pcr, they have no viral load which means that their own immune system put the virus into remission.. but the viral load when you have an active virus can vary alot.. so the viral load, if you have any doesnt really tell you how active the virus is, just that

its alive and cooking.. so to speak.. does this make sense? if not, let me know and I'll try to explain it again.. its very confusing at first to make sense of all of this.. I remember...JackieSubject: Re: Anyone not anti-depressants during treatment?To: Hepatitis_C_Central Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008, 5:29 AM

Excellent info Jackie, cleared up alot for me! Thanx!!

brandi

PS-if they are "active", which tests show if they are "active"?

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interferon

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> type drugs , just the length of time of treatment is different

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> my dr

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> > said that I did not need to be on them because I have had

no

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> > of depression.

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if

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Which med did they put you on, ?

glad they are working for you!

I thought this was a good plan too until I talked to my Doctors about needing it during treatment. She explained why I needed to start now and not wait until I had no serotonin left in my brain. It took 2 weeks of feeling sick to my stomach and adjusting the time to take it that worked best. Then it took 2 months before it started to work. If you had a problem it would be too late to fix it or it most certainly would make me even sicker while on TXThat's why I chose to start now rather than wait until I hear voices or some horrible thing like suicide is attempted. Personally I have a very stable life and I still freaked out about the HepC and the antidepressants have made it so much easier to deal with all the gawd awful tests and Doctor visits and that fack that I need a liver transplant. > > >> > Quick question. Is their anyone here on treatment that is NOT on> > anti-depressants? I ask because I am starting treatment and my dr> > said that I did not need to be on them because I have had no history> > of depression. > > > > I guess I am going to see how I feel while on peg/rib and if I feel> > sad, etc then I will get a script for them.> >>

[Guest guest]

As the original owner of this group, nurse with over 26 years experience and as a person who has been through treatment twice. I have to agree with Jackie. I had to be on anti-depressants during treatment. Both times. I would not have made it. Even with the anti depressants I would have times that I thought about ending it all. It was just the medications, and the ravages of the disease. But I think anyone who does treatment it is a must to take anti depressants. It just helps with alot of the mental side effects that you get. And that is my opinion and If anyone has a problem with what I said then they can deal with hash it out with me.

Janet

"There are souls in this world that have the gift of finding joy everywhere and of leaving it behind them when they go"

Frederick Faber

From: Dorothy <dorvoptonline (DOT) net>Subject: RE: [Hepatitis_C_ Central] Anyone not anti-depressants during treatment?To: Hepatitis_C_ Central@yahoogro ups.comDate: Tuesday, June 24, 2008, 7:53 PM

I did not take anti-depressants before or during treatment.

You can¢t assume that everyone will need them.

Good luck Friday!!

Dorothy

From: Hepatitis_C_ Central@yahoogro ups.com [mailto: Hepatitis_C_ Central@yahoogro ups.com ] On Behalf Of massgal08Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 10:24 PMTo: Hepatitis_C_ Central@yahoogro ups.comSubject: [Hepatitis_C_ Central] Anyone not anti-depressants during treatment?

Quick question. Is their anyone here on treatment that is NOT onanti-depressants? I ask because I am starting treatment and my drsaid that I did not need to be on them because I have had no historyof depression. I guess I am going to see how I feel while on peg/rib and if I feelsad, etc then I will get a script for them.

[Guest guest]

It’s interesting since I feel that I

was depressed to begin with.  I was unemployed, my marriage had fallen apart, I

had recently been told I could lose my sight, I was struggling with other

medical problems and had financial problems.  I didn’t take

anti-depressants before, during or after tx and I feel fortunate in that I didn’t

have to add another med to everything I was taking.

Everyone is different and for those who

require these meds, it can mean the difference between finishing tx or not.

I admire all who have endured tx more than

once, Janet, as you have done.  I don’t know if I could do it.  I see my

doctor a week from tomorrow for the results from the first tests since I ended

tx.  If there are any problems, I’m not sure what I’ll do.  Now

that it is behind me, I’m trying to pull the pieces of my life back

together and if I had to face living through it again, I would not be happy

camper!

Dorothy

From: Hepatitis_C_Central [mailto:Hepatitis_C_Central ] On Behalf Of Janet

Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 12:05

AM

To: Hepatitis_C_Central

Subject: Re:

Anyone not anti-depressants during treatment?

As the

original owner of this group, nurse with over 26 years experience and

as a person who has been through treatment twice. I have to agree with

Jackie. I had to be on anti-depressants during treatment. Both times. I would

not have made it. Even with the anti depressants I would have times that I

thought about ending it all. It was just the medications, and the ravages of

the disease. But I think anyone who does treatment it is a must to take anti

depressants. It just helps with alot of the mental side effects that you get.

And that is my opinion and If anyone has a problem with what I said then they

can deal with hash it out with me.

Janet

" There are souls in this world that have the

gift of finding joy everywhere and of leaving it behind them when they

go "

Frederick Faber

From:

Dorothy <dorvoptonline (DOT) net>

Subject: RE: [Hepatitis_C_ Central] Anyone not anti-depressants during

treatment?

To: Hepatitis_C_ Central@yahoogro ups.com

Date: Tuesday, June 24, 2008, 7:53 PM

I did not take anti-depressants before or

during treatment.

You can¢t assume that everyone will need

them.

Good luck Friday!!

Dorothy

From:

Hepatitis_C_ Central@yahoogro ups.com [mailto: Hepatitis_C_

Central@yahoogro ups.com ] On Behalf

Of massgal08

Sent: Tuesday, June 24,

2008 10:24 PM

To: Hepatitis_C_

Central@yahoogro ups.com

Subject: [Hepatitis_C_

Central] Anyone not anti-depressants during treatment?

Quick

question. Is their anyone here on treatment that is NOT on

anti-depressants? I ask because I am starting treatment and my dr

said that I did not need to be on them because I have had no history

of depression.

I guess I am going to see how I feel while on peg/rib and if I feel

sad, etc then I will get a script for them.

[Guest guest]

You are an exception Dorothy. Most humans could not endure the kind

of emotional upheaval that you had going on when you went on TX. I

know I struggle with a fraction of what you went through. That's why

I say you are my inspiration If you can go through all this and

come out the other end saying " it was not so bad " well jumpin jiminy

cricket I sure as heck can deal with it!! Plus if I remember

correctly you lived alone? That was dangerous and I am so glad it

worked out for you.

Heck just dealing with the emotional BS from menopause is bad enough.

>

> It's interesting since I feel that I was depressed to begin with.

I was

> unemployed, my marriage had fallen apart, I had recently been told

I could

> lose my sight, I was struggling with other medical problems and had

> financial problems. I didn't take anti-depressants before, during

or after

> tx and I feel fortunate in that I didn't have to add another med to

> everything I was taking.

>

>

>

> Everyone is different and for those who require these meds, it can

mean the

> difference between finishing tx or not.

>

>

>

> I admire all who have endured tx more than once, Janet, as you have

done. I

> don't know if I could do it. I see my doctor a week from tomorrow

for the

> results from the first tests since I ended tx. If there are any

problems,

> I'm not sure what I'll do. Now that it is behind me, I'm trying to

pull the

> pieces of my life back together and if I had to face living through

it

> again, I would not be happy camper!

>

>

>

> Dorothy

>

>

>

> _____

>

> From: Hepatitis_C_Central

> [mailto:Hepatitis_C_Central ] On Behalf Of Janet

> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 12:05 AM

> To: Hepatitis_C_Central

> Subject: Re: Anyone not anti-depressants

during

> treatment?

>

>

>

>

> As the original owner of this group, nurse with over 26 years

experience

> and as a person who has been through treatment twice. I have to

agree with

> Jackie. I had to be on anti-depressants during treatment. Both

times. I

> would not have made it. Even with the anti depressants I would have

times

> that I thought about ending it all. It was just the medications,

and the

> ravages of the disease. But I think anyone who does treatment it is

a must

> to take anti depressants. It just helps with alot of the mental

side effects

> that you get. And that is my opinion and If anyone has a problem

with what I

> said then they can deal with hash it out with me.

>

>

>

> Janet

>

>