RE: Use of NFP in the United States

[Guest guest]

Has this website ever collated a list of methods on how to market NFP to the general public? I am certain everyone has their own opinion and their own methods, some of which have worked and some of which have not. I was wondering if everyone sent in their successes on this site, I would be willing to collate them in one document and send them back to everyone. Thanks. There HAS to be a way to let this info out in a better manner.

Les Ruppersberger Use of NFP in the United States

Hello NFP group FYI:

The following data is from the CDC and Cycle 6 of the National Survey of Family Growth (NSFG) – conducted by the CDC through the University of Michigan every 7 years or so.

Natural family planning

NOTE: In "Natural family planning or safe period by temperature or cervical mucus test," a woman checks the temperature and consistency of her cervical mucus to determine her fertile days and abstains from intercourse on those fertile days.

Natural family planning use among women 15-44 years of age who have ever had intercourse, 2002:

Percent of women who have ever used natural family planning: 3.5%

Percent of women currently using natural family planning: 0.2%

Percent of Catholic women using natural family planning: 0.4%

This data applies to all women in the US of reproductive age 14-44. The third open bullet point is from my analysis of the NSFG data set. The actual number of women with current use is around 124,000.

See: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nsfg/abc_list_n.htm#natural

Cycle 7 of the NSFG is supposed to be coming out before the end of the year – so we can see if these numbers will change at all. The percentage of ever use has ranged from around 3-4% since the early 1980s. There is a lot of other data on this Web site that might be of interest to NFP teachers, e.g., cohabitation rates, pregnancy rates, sexual activity, etc. Data and figures that you should be aware of and can quote.

I wish you all well with promoting NFP.

J. Fehring, PhD, RN

Professor

Marquette University

[Guest guest]

I don't know how this fits with other peoples' experience, but over the last

five years our own entire base of contacts for NFP teaching has come from two

sources:

- Direct word of mouth referral

- Our website.

One area where I think more could be done - internationally, not just for the

USA - would be in the provision of good-quality and well thought out general

NFP information on the Internet, referring to individual

organizations/teachers at the point at which a user already has enough

information to know that s/he wants to know more.

I have a site - http://nfpsite.aldred.org - which has attracted a good deal of

traffic in the past, but it needs a facelift, and, more importantly,

collaborators to make it more authoritative and more up to date on contacts,

related materials etc.

I have sometimes wondered whether the community around this mailing list would

be interested in collaborating in such a site - building it into something

which provided not only basic information but also a repository of research

findings, information on particular conditions etc, to lift it somewhat up the

league.

So would people be interested?

--

Aldred

[Guest guest]

I have sometimes wondered whether the community around this mailing list would

be interested in collaborating in such a site -

So would people be interested?

--

Aldred

__Probably, if they didn't have to do more than 5% of the work.

jim-- Jim & Margaret Van DammeCouple to Couple League-Central New Yorkhttp://nfp.freehostia.com/   <== Big NFP siteOur real address is vandamme@...!

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[Guest guest]

Fr. McCaffrey's iInternet site www.nfpoutreach.org is a good NFP resource.

Fr. Tom Bartolomeo

 

I have sometimes wondered whether the community around this mailing list would be interested in collaborating in such a site -

So would people be interested? -- Aldred

__Probably, if they didn't have to do more than 5% of the work. jim

-- Jim & Margaret Van DammeCouple to Couple League-Central New Yorkhttp://nfp.freehostia.com/   <== Big NFP siteOur real address is vandamme@...!

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Lots of hours were put into creating a database of NFP related research that can

be found at http://www.omsoul.com/search.php. this was completed a few years

ago, so anything more recent would not be included. It would be great if the

database could be more widely used. Any suggestions.?

Steve Koob, Co-Founder

One More Soul

cel

steve@...

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I don't know how this fits with other peoples' experience, but over the last

five years our own entire base of contacts for NFP teaching has come from two

sources:

- Direct word of mouth referral

- Our website.

One area where I think more could be done - internationally, not just for the

USA - would be in the provision of good-quality and well thought out general

NFP information on the Internet, referring to individual

organizations/teachers at the point at which a user already has enough

information to know that s/he wants to know more.

I have a site - http://nfpsite.aldred.org - which has attracted a good deal of

traffic in the past, but it needs a facelift, and, more importantly,

collaborators to make it more authoritative and more up to date on contacts,

related materials etc.

I have sometimes wondered whether the community around this mailing list would

be interested in collaborating in such a site - building it into something

which provided not only basic information but also a repository of research

findings, information on particular conditions etc, to lift it somewhat up the

league.

So would people be interested?

--

Aldred

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[Guest guest]

I’ve been following this discussion

with interest.

I live in one of those parishes where the

priests mandate a full NFP course by our engaged couples, and we prepare about

10% of all the couples of our annual diocesan marriage total because we have

the Univ of VA campus ministry, including

jurisdiction over those who want to marry at the UVa chapel,

whether from our parish or not.

We offer classes in STM and Creighton Fertility Care. Along with our parish, we get some non-Catholic

couples from the area, and couples preparing for marriage from a city about 40

miles away with a requirement for preparation but no teachers.

Couples have been variably receptive, but

our philosophy is that we’re planting the seeds and maybe they’ll

bear fruit in the future if not now.

Honestly, some of our young couples

are incredibly receptive to the joys of family, and there are lots of babies

being baptized here. And

actually many of the non-Catholic couples who take our class have converted to

the Catholic faith when they see how beautiful these teachings are!

When the decision was made to mandate the

classes for our parish, our pastor told us that he felt in good conscience he

couldn’t witness these marriages unless we had given these couples the

Truth about what the Church teaches, and the means to work with it. I’m not saying it’s

always been easy for us to grow to this point, but the Grace has been there. We’re Dominicans here (I’m

in the Laity), so it’s all about Truth!

I could use some good web links for our

parish webpage where couples go to learn about the classes and register. I’m keeping my eyes open as this

develops.

God Bless,

D. Poehailos, MD

Family Physician/STM instructor trainer

St.

Aquinas University Parish

Charlottesville, VA

Re:

Use of NFP in the United States

Fr. McCaffrey's iInternet site www.nfpoutreach.org

is a good NFP resource.

Fr. Tom Bartolomeo

On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 7:12 PM, Van Damme <vandammesgmail>

wrote:

On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at

12:22 PM, Aldred <nrfamilyaldred (DOT) org.uk> wrote:

I have sometimes wondered whether the community around this mailing list would

be interested in collaborating in such a site -

So would people be

interested?

--

Aldred

__

Probably, if they didn't have to do more than 5% of the work.

jim

--

Jim & Margaret Van Damme

Couple to Couple League-Central New York

http://nfp.freehostia.com/

<== Big NFP site

Our real address is vandammejuno!

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[Guest guest]

Maybe the need is not so much for one universal website, but for

everyone to link generously to other websites.

While our website only offers contact info for California teachers,

physicians, and clergy, it has a feature that is very popular and well utilized

globally (by English speaking). We have an Ask the Experts feature, with over

800 responses posted to questions we have received over the internet. Responses

are written by CANFP experts-----teachers, physicians, clergy, etc. It attracts

a great number of people to our site who are totally unfamiliar with NFP, and

is also a great resource for NFP clients, doing research on issues they may be

experiencing, and professionals, looking for other opinions.

Sheila St.

Executive Director

California Association of Natural Family Planning

1217 Tyler St.

Salinas, Ca. 93906

1-877-33-CANFP

www.canfp.org

From: nfpprofessionals

[mailto:nfpprofessionals ] On Behalf Of D.

Poehailos

Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 6:41 PM

To: nfpprofessionals

Subject: RE: Use of NFP in the United States

I’ve been following this

discussion with interest.

I live in one of those parishes

where the priests mandate a full NFP course by our engaged couples, and we

prepare about 10% of all the couples of our annual diocesan marriage total

because we have the Univ of VA campus ministry, including jurisdiction over

those who want to marry at the UVa chapel, whether from our parish or

not. We offer classes in STM and Creighton Fertility Care.

Along with our parish, we get some non-Catholic couples from the area, and

couples preparing for marriage from a city about 40 miles away with a

requirement for preparation but no teachers.

Couples have been variably

receptive, but our philosophy is that we’re planting the seeds and maybe

they’ll bear fruit in the future if not now. Honestly, some

of our young couples are incredibly receptive to the joys of family, and there

are lots of babies being baptized here. And actually many of the

non-Catholic couples who take our class have converted to the Catholic faith

when they see how beautiful these teachings are!

When the decision was made to

mandate the classes for our parish, our pastor told us that he felt in good

conscience he couldn’t witness these marriages unless we had given these

couples the Truth about what the Church teaches, and the means to work with

it. I’m not saying it’s always been easy for us to grow

to this point, but the Grace has been there. We’re Dominicans here

(I’m in the Laity), so it’s all about Truth!

I could use some good web links

for our parish webpage where couples go to learn about the classes and

register. I’m keeping my eyes open as this develops.

God Bless,

D. Poehailos, MD

Family Physician/STM instructor

trainer

St. Aquinas University

Parish

Charlottesville, VA

Re: Use of NFP in the United States

Fr. McCaffrey's iInternet site www.nfpoutreach.org is a

good NFP resource.

Fr. Tom Bartolomeo

On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 7:12 PM,

Van Damme

wrote:

On Mon, Oct 12,

2009 at 12:22 PM, Aldred wrote:

I have sometimes wondered whether the community around this mailing list would

be interested in collaborating in such a site -

So would people

be interested?

--

Aldred

__

Probably, if they didn't have to do more than 5% of the work.

jim

--

Jim & Margaret Van Damme

Couple to Couple League-Central New York

http://nfp.freehostia.com/

<== Big NFP site

Our real address is vandamme@...!

-------------------------------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

Wow, Steve, I don't think I was aware of that resource! It is excellent!

Sheila St.

Executive Director

California Association of Natural Family Planning

1217 Tyler St.

Salinas, Ca. 93906

1-877-33-CANFP

www.canfp.org

Re: Use of NFP in the United States

Hi ,

Lots of hours were put into creating a database of NFP related research that

can be found at http://www.omsoul.com/search.php. this was completed a

few years ago, so anything more recent would not be included. It would be

great if the database could be more widely used. Any suggestions.?

Steve Koob, Co-Founder

One More Soul

cel

steve@...

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I don't know how this fits with other peoples' experience, but over the last

five years our own entire base of contacts for NFP teaching has come from

two

sources:

- Direct word of mouth referral

- Our website.

One area where I think more could be done - internationally, not just for

the

USA - would be in the provision of good-quality and well thought out general

NFP information on the Internet, referring to individual

organizations/teachers at the point at which a user already has enough

information to know that s/he wants to know more.

I have a site - http://nfpsite.aldred.org - which has attracted a good deal

of

traffic in the past, but it needs a facelift, and, more importantly,

collaborators to make it more authoritative and more up to date on contacts,

related materials etc.

I have sometimes wondered whether the community around this mailing list

would

be interested in collaborating in such a site - building it into something

which provided not only basic information but also a repository of research

findings, information on particular conditions etc, to lift it somewhat up

the

league.

So would people be interested?

--

Aldred

------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

I have sent e-mails out to those organizations whose websites are

currently listed on my website. (Except Aldred, because I couldn’t

find the contact link on your website – please respond to this e-mail ).

I didn’t find contact us links found on the OMSoul website, or My

Fertility Cycle websit, but I found those e-mail addresses in the NFP discussion

board.

The e-mail says, I am requesting permission to put a link

to your website on my website www.healthvista.net

in the Natural Family Planning webpage that lists NFP resources. Your

website is also referenced in the Natural Family Planning: A Healthy

Alternative Powerpoint. Thanks in advance for letting me know if this is

OK with you. Knutson

Please respond to your organization’s e-mail with a reply

to mbknutson@... so I can have

permission in writing. Thanks!

Knutson

From:

nfpprofessionals [mailto:nfpprofessionals ] On

Behalf Of Knutson

Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 10:17 PM

To: nfpprofessionals

Subject: RE: Use of NFP in the United States

Thanks for the feedback, Hannah and

Sue. I have made the changes you recommended. Any other

suggestions are welcome.

Knutson

From:

nfpprofessionals [mailto:nfpprofessionals ] On

Behalf Of Hanna Klaus

Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 10:48 AM

To: nfpprofessionals

Cc: 'BOMA - USA'

Subject: RE: Use of NFP in the United States

That’s a very comprehensive

site, . I do wish though that you would state that the Billings

Method and the S-T methods are all theoretically 99% effective, and that is the

figure you cite for the Creighton model. Use effectiveness is computed

differently by that model, but the “perfect use” figure of

99% pertains equally to all the methods I cite above.

Hanna Klaus, M.D., F.A.C.O.G.

From:

nfpprofessionals [mailto:nfpprofessionals ] On

Behalf Of Knutson

Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 11:35 AM

To: nfpprofessionals

Subject: RE: Use of NFP in the United States

The link to my NFP web page is http://healthvista.freehosting.net/Natural%20Family%20Planning.htm

From:

nfpprofessionals [mailto:nfpprofessionals ] On

Behalf Of Hanna Klaus

Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 9:10 AM

To: nfpprofessionals

Subject: RE: Use of NFP in the United States

Have you added the two Billings

sites? www.boma-usa.org gives

US resources, and www.woomb .org has world wide resources plus all the

scientific background and publications as well as instructional links.

Hanna Klaus, M.D.

Natural Family Planning Center of

Washington, D.C. and Teen STAR Program

8514 Bradmoor Drive

Bethesda, MD 20817-3810

hannaklaus@...

http://www.teenstarprogram.org

From:

nfpprofessionals [mailto:nfpprofessionals ] On

Behalf Of Knutson

Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 10:54 PM

To: nfpprofessionals

Subject: RE: Use of NFP in the United States

Your website is very good, as are the

other ones that are listed. I will plan to add many of them to my website

for health education resources at www.healthvista.net.

I have a Powerpoint presentation made for nursing students about Natural Family

Planning at http://healthvista.freehosting.net/Natural%20Family%20Planning.htm

if anyone is interested. I will probably update it and submit it to

MERLOT (Multimedia Education Resources for Learning and Online Technologies) at

www.merlot.org Perhaps some of you

with websites and learning modules that are free to use would like to do the

same. That collection of online educational materials is used by many science,

health care and educational systems.

If I had more time, I would offer

to do more, like combine your excellent websites and links into one that

includes information about many of the methods, as well as the basics. In

the meantime, Sheila’s suggestion to link to each other’s websites

sounds like a good idea.

Knutson, RN, FCP

Caledonia, MN

From:

nfpprofessionals [mailto:nfpprofessionals ] On

Behalf Of Aldred

Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 11:23 AM

To: nfpprofessionals

Subject: Re: Use of NFP in the United States

I don't know how this fits with other peoples' experience, but over the last

five years our own entire base of contacts for NFP teaching has come from two

sources:

- Direct word of mouth referral

- Our website.

One area where I think more could be done - internationally, not just for the

USA - would be in the provision of good-quality and well thought out general

NFP information on the Internet, referring to individual

organizations/teachers at the point at which a user already has enough

information to know that s/he wants to know more.

I have a site - http://nfpsite.aldred.org

- which has attracted a good deal of

traffic in the past, but it needs a facelift, and, more importantly,

collaborators to make it more authoritative and more up to date on contacts,

related materials etc.

I have sometimes wondered whether the community around this mailing list would

be interested in collaborating in such a site - building it into something

which provided not only basic information but also a repository of research

findings, information on particular conditions etc, to lift it somewhat up the

league.

So would people be interested?

--

Aldred