Re: question

[Guest guest]

I would like to ask two questions?

1. What complementary/alternative medicines or treatments have people found

useful for neuropathic type pain? eg herbs, acupuncture, swedish massage,

etc.

2. How and why do they work?

Rose Lee

[Guest guest]

Hi, all!

Because my injured nerves are messed up with injured muscles, doing anything

to relax those muscles helps. I find aquatic therapy and massage therapy

help me a lot to loosen up tight muscles and get some pain relief.

I also have facet joint disease, a slightly herniated and torn disc. These

cause inflammation in my lumbar/sacral area. Oddly enough I have found that

ice packs help the swelling and therefore the pain.

Lois & Cherie (the Pooh Bear) in PA (awaiting the next snow storm!)

RE: question

I would like to ask two questions?

1. What complementary/alternative medicines or treatments have people found

useful for neuropathic type pain? eg herbs, acupuncture, swedish massage,

etc.

2. How and why do they work?

Rose Lee

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[Guest guest]

At 08:20 AM 1/25/00 +1100, Rose Power wisely said:

>1. What complementary/alternative medicines or treatments have people found

>useful for neuropathic type pain? eg herbs, acupuncture, swedish massage,

>etc.

Ok, this is a big question. But I'm only going to give a short,

personal answer. Right now I use Valerian Root for lower body neuropathy, &

it gives pretty good relief, 4 hours at a time. Increasing dose past 2 caps

(1000 mg) does not improve results.

I had a lot of acupuncture while I lived in NY for about 12 years,

and it gave relief that tapered down over about 3 weeks. I also had

constant chiropractic, that not only gave relief, but kept my spine from

getting a lot worse. Still have the chiropractic, but not as frequently.

As to why they work: Indian & Chinese medicine are 6000 years old.

Ours is about 300. Maybe they learned something. And chiropractic, although

thought to be new, is referred to in some old and even maybe ancient

references.

I also get relief from an electronic device called an alpha-stim,

which modifies brain waves (alpha waves). This is not a TENS. Medicine,

except for a few people interested in electrophysiology, has largely

ignored the electronics of the body. Those few have produced some devices

that work on total body pain and mood as well, and electronic devices that

give complete dental anaesthesia.

Why do they work? Why is the sky blue?

Ken

[Guest guest]

Hi RP,

I have described the alpha stim a number of times on the list in

the past, and will try to search up those posts. If you call the

manufacturer at 1 800 FOR PAIN, they will send you literature. It was

developed by an MD researcher in electrophysiology who pioneered tens

development. The alpha is quite different. Ordinarily, it needs to be

prescribed, or recommended for you by a healthcare professional.

Unfortunately, not too many medical people are that familiar with it. Stay

tuned. Will add more as soon as I can. Meantime, the literature, which is

accurate, is available from the 800 #. There is also a packet for doctors

that is quite complete. If it is purchased from the manufacturer, it is

returnable if you find it is not for you.

Ken

At 08:31 AM 1/26/00 +1100, Rose Power wisely said:

>

>

>Ken mentioned an electronic device called an alpha-stim,

>which modifies brain waves (alpha waves). Please explain more. Who

>produces/manufacturers it? where is it made? how do you use it? i have

>never heard of it? tell me more?

>Regards

>Rose-lee

>

>

>---------------------------

[Guest guest]

Ken,

Is this different from a Tens Unit?

Kathleen

[Guest guest]

Hi Rose,

There is a very good alpha-stim faq written by one of our members

in our files section at onelist. Log in to Onelist & the chronic_pain list.

on the left menu, select files, download & get the file.

Ken

At 08:31 AM 1/26/00 +1100, Rose Power wisely said:

>

>

>Ken mentioned an electronic device called an alpha-stim,

>which modifies brain waves (alpha waves). Please explain more. Who

>produces/manufacturers it? where is it made? how do you use it? i have

>never heard of it? tell me more?

>Regards

>Rose-lee

>

>

>---------------------------

[Guest guest]

Hi Rose,

There is a very good alpha-stim faq written by one of our members

in our files section at onelist. Log in to Onelist & the chronic_pain list.

on the left menu, select files, download & get the file.

Ken

At 08:31 AM 1/26/00 +1100, Rose Power wisely said:

>

>

>Ken mentioned an electronic device called an alpha-stim,

>which modifies brain waves (alpha waves). Please explain more. Who

>produces/manufacturers it? where is it made? how do you use it? i have

>never heard of it? tell me more?

>Regards

>Rose-lee

>

>

>---------------------------

[Guest guest]

<<I was on darvacett too and it made me dizzy too!!!! Good luck w/ the

vioxx......>>

Well, you all, I tried the Vioxx....boy did I have a bad reaction! Ringing

ears, heart/blood pounding in my ears, racing heart, swollen tongue and

throat and to top it all off, NO, and I mean absolutely NO pain relief! I'm

going back to the Darvocet! It may make me dizzy but it at least takes some

of the pain away without all the awful side effects!

I have so many bad reactions to so many different meds that I guess it's best

to stick with something I KNOW works and I can take without all the bad side

effects. The doc wanted to take me off the Darvocett to see if I'd be able to

drive, but I can't drive while I'm in pain...I can't concentrate, the pain is

so distracting. Oh well, another drug down the tubes for me!

God bless,

Joanne

[Guest guest]

I was on darvacett too and it made me dizzy too!!!! Good luck w/ the

vioxx......

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> From: GypsyJo2@...

> To: chronic_painonelist

> Subject: question

> Date: Friday, March 31, 2000 1:21 AM

>

> Hi all!

>

> Hey, is anyone out there on Vioxx? And if so, what's it supposed to do?

My

> doc gave it to me today and I took one as he directed (one per day) and

I'm

> hurting like crazy still. The Darvocett worked lots better, but also

makes me

> dizzy, which is why the doc wanted me to try the Vioxx. Can anyone give

me

> any feedback?

> God bless,

> joanne

>

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Vioxx is a new class of drugs called " COX @ Inhibitors " that are designed

to control inflammation. It is similar to Celebrex, but costs less, has

more reports of side effects & is viewed by some professionals as not quite

as effective. It's action is less like a pain-killer & more like a

turbo-charged NS AID (anti-inflammatory) but without as many risks.

My advice: Give it some time to build up to a steady blood-level in your

body (several weeks), but get back to your doc immediately if you start

finding any new problems. These drugs are pretty person-selective (work

better or worse for different people) so if you don't get good results on

Vioxx, ask about Celebrex (If your coverage can get it for you).

Ken

At 04:21 AM 3/31/00 -0500, GypsyJo2@... wisely said:

>Hi all!

>

>Hey, is anyone out there on Vioxx? And if so, what's it supposed to do? My

>doc gave it to me today and I took one as he directed (one per day) and I'm

>hurting like crazy still. The Darvocett worked lots better, but also makes me

>dizzy, which is why the doc wanted me to try the Vioxx. Can anyone give me

>any feedback?

>God bless,

>joanne

>

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At 12:06 AM 4/1/00 -0500, GypsyJo2@... wisely said:

>Well, you all, I tried the Vioxx....boy did I have a bad reaction! Ringing

>ears, heart/blood pounding in my ears, racing heart, swollen tongue and

>throat and to top it all off, NO, and I mean absolutely NO pain relief! I'm

Celebrex has a lot better reports of relief, but some people do also get

bad reactions too.

ken

[Guest guest]

Darvacet is a schedule 2 opoid pain reliever (moderate strength) It is a

synthetic & as most other drugs of this type, can have very good, neutral

or lousy reactions from person to person. There are other similar level

opoids you might want to get your doc to permit you to try instead. The

reactions can be very personal.

Ken

At 10:26 PM 3/31/00 -0800, laurie waterhouse wisely said:

>I was on darvacett too and it made me dizzy too!!!! Good luck w/ the

>vioxx......

>

>----------

> > From: GypsyJo2@...

> > To: chronic_painonelist

> > Subject: question

> > Date: Friday, March 31, 2000 1:21 AM

> >

> > Hi all!

> >

> > Hey, is anyone out there on Vioxx? And if so, what's it supposed to do?

>My

> > doc gave it to me today and I took one as he directed (one per day) and

>I'm

> > hurting like crazy still. The Darvocett worked lots better, but also

>makes me

> > dizzy, which is why the doc wanted me to try the Vioxx. Can anyone give

>me

> > any feedback?

> > God bless,

> > joanne

> >

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<<Celebrex has a lot better reports of relief, but some people do also get

bad reactions too.>>

Thanks Ken, I'll ask the Doc about this one.

God bless,

Joanne

[Guest guest]

Hi everyone,

Thanks for all the wonderful response to my questions about Vioxx, it was

very much appreciated!

God bless you all!

Joanne

[Guest guest]

I took Vioxx for one week of the two weeks I was prescribed. I felt

terrible the whole time, it messed with my bowels, and

seemed to be inneffective. I believe it is a high power anti-inflamatory

drug and I was prescribed it for FMS symptoms after I told the

MD that FMS is typically unresponsive to anti-inflams. Again, I was right

and the doctor was wrong. I've been around and around this

one.

Ken

At 04:21 AM 03/31/2000 -0500, you wrote:

>Hi all!

>

>Hey, is anyone out there on Vioxx? And if so, what's it supposed to do? My

>doc gave it to me today and I took one as he directed (one per day) and I'm

>hurting like crazy still. The Darvocett worked lots better, but also makes

me

>dizzy, which is why the doc wanted me to try the Vioxx. Can anyone give me

>any feedback?

>God bless,

>joanne

>

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In a message dated 07/26/2000 1:20:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

clark@... writes:

<< I finally orderd the Taebo live set and I was wondering how long it really

takes to get them? I;m really anxious for them to get here. I was also

wondering what the difference is between those and the tapes I see you all

talking about - AL1 - BL1 etc. >>

The Tae-Bo Live set is the Live version of the original studio Instructional,

Basic, Advanced and 8 minute work-outs but much superior IMHO

The AL1, BL1 are the first of the Live monthly series that can be delivered

monthly (AL1 is Advanced Live volume 1 and BL1 is Basic Live volume 1)

Now we are figuring out that some of these work-outs being sent out to newer

subscribers are different than their originals too

Barb

who believes the work-outs in the LIVE set are better than most of the

earlier series ones caused taped more recently and maybe that is why the

earlier ones are being replaced/updated

[Guest guest]

Hi everyone! Maybe this sounds as an obvious answer to you, but I'm just

starting to introduce myself in these types of translations. Can anybody

tell me if there is a difference in the Spanish translation for " medical

oncologist " and " oncologist " ?

Thank you very much!!!

[Guest guest]

Hi everyone! Maybe this sounds as an obvious answer to you, but I'm just

starting to introduce myself in these types of translations. Can anybody

tell me if there is a difference in the Spanish translation for " medical

oncologist " and " oncologist " ?

Thank you very much!!!

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Oi!

Se fosse em português seria oncologista clínico e oncologista.

boa tradução,

Lívia

-----Mensagem original-----

De: sbusquets@...

Para: medical_translationegroups <medical_translationegroups>

Data: Terça-feira, 8 de Agosto de 2000 05:05

Assunto: RE: Question

>

>

>

>Hi everyone! Maybe this sounds as an obvious answer to you, but I'm just

>starting to introduce myself in these types of translations. Can anybody

>tell me if there is a difference in the Spanish translation for " medical

>oncologist " and " oncologist " ?

>Thank you very much!!!

>

>

>

>

>URL: www./group/medical_translation

>

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[Guest guest]

Hola,

La diferencia es que el oncologo es el especialista, y eso significa que

hizo la especializacion (aunque parezca redundante) y tiene el " titulo " de

oncologo.

Y el medico que se dedica a oncologia pero sin haber hecho la

especializacion oficial no puede llamarse oncologo sino " medico - oncologia "

Al menos asi era cuando yo estudie (1972-1978).

Ester

sbusquets@... wrote:

> Hi everyone! Maybe this sounds as an obvious answer to you, but I'm just

> starting to introduce myself in these types of translations. Can anybody

> tell me if there is a difference in the Spanish translation for " medical

> oncologist " and " oncologist " ?

> Thank you very much!!!

>

>

>

> URL: www./group/medical_translation

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[Guest guest]

Thank you very much indeed. In fact I would like to thank you in Portuguese

but I must confess I have no idea.

[Guest guest]

Muchas gracias, Ester. ¡¡¡Menudo invento acabo de descubrir con esto de

poder preguntar on-line!! Hasta la próxima.

[Guest guest]

I am sorry. Next time I will make sure I write back in English. I take part

in another list where most people speak in Portuguese. You're translating

into Spanish, but I guess the translation to Portuguese could probably be

applied in Spanish as well, I don´t know.

Anyway, " obrigado " means thank you in Portuguese.

Have a nice day,

Lívia

-----Mensagem original-----

De: sbusquets@...

Para: medical_translationegroups <medical_translationegroups>

Data: Terça-feira, 8 de Agosto de 2000 08:58

Assunto: Re: Question

>

>Thank you very much indeed. In fact I would like to thank you in Portuguese

>but I must confess I have no idea.

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

The swoeg book I think? Stop Walking on Eggshells

Shirley

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Hi Lissa and all new members,

" Nada " comes from " not a " mother. It also means

" nothing " in spanish -- so it fits in two ways.

Make sure you read the e-mail sent by the moderator

when you joined the list -- it defines all of the

abbreviations we use here.

Anon

--- mteel62568@... wrote:

> I have a question - I'm assuming that " nada " means

> BPD mother, but

> where did the term come from?

>

> thanks.

>

> Lissa

>

>

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