Guest guest Posted February 15, 2001 Report Share Posted February 15, 2001 Jo Ann Cahn wrote: > > susan (hi again!!) wrote: > > > it reminds me of another word used in two cultural settings - when i > > > was a child, my grandfather used to call me a " little shikseh " with > > > great affection; i learned from my israeli colleagues that this was > > > not a very nice thing to say in their cultural setting, while in the > > > US there was nothing negtive in the baggage. More than just baggage. Mostly understanding what the word actually means. (It means abomination or unclean thing.) Kind of hard to use it affectionately once you know that. Sharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2001 Report Share Posted February 15, 2001 On 10:11 AM 2/15/2001 -0600, grevet wrote the following: >Jo Ann Cahn wrote: > > > > susan (hi again!!) wrote: > > > > it reminds me of another word used in two cultural settings - when i > > > > was a child, my grandfather used to call me a " little shikseh " with > > > > great affection; i learned from my israeli colleagues that this was > > > > not a very nice thing to say in their cultural setting, while in the > > > > US there was nothing negtive in the baggage. sharon: >More than just baggage. Mostly understanding what the word actually means. >(It means abomination or unclean thing.) Kind of hard to use it >affectionately once you know that. you have a point there;- and yet amongst my yiddish speaking grandparents (the language all 4 used, since they came from three different countries, mixed and matched, and more than one of my grandparents never learned much english), the implication was *only* that a shikseh was a girl who was not jewish. and perhaps since my grandfather's other expression was something on the order of (forgive my spelling) sköna maideleh (hmmm - couldn't even figure out the yiddish spelling of the first, that's the swedish - and no, i'm not swedish,-), perhaps the " meaning " overlapped in my childhood brain. fwiw susan translators' site du jour: http://home.ncia.com/~slarsson/sitejour.html swedish>english medicine * business * technology mailto:slarsson@... * mailto:s_larsson@... phone/fax: +1 cell phone: +1 laconner washington usa * bokenäs uddevalla sweden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2001 Report Share Posted February 15, 2001 On 10:11 AM 2/15/2001 -0600, grevet wrote the following: >Jo Ann Cahn wrote: > > > > susan (hi again!!) wrote: > > > > it reminds me of another word used in two cultural settings - when i > > > > was a child, my grandfather used to call me a " little shikseh " with > > > > great affection; i learned from my israeli colleagues that this was > > > > not a very nice thing to say in their cultural setting, while in the > > > > US there was nothing negtive in the baggage. sharon: >More than just baggage. Mostly understanding what the word actually means. >(It means abomination or unclean thing.) Kind of hard to use it >affectionately once you know that. you have a point there;- and yet amongst my yiddish speaking grandparents (the language all 4 used, since they came from three different countries, mixed and matched, and more than one of my grandparents never learned much english), the implication was *only* that a shikseh was a girl who was not jewish. and perhaps since my grandfather's other expression was something on the order of (forgive my spelling) sköna maideleh (hmmm - couldn't even figure out the yiddish spelling of the first, that's the swedish - and no, i'm not swedish,-), perhaps the " meaning " overlapped in my childhood brain. fwiw susan translators' site du jour: http://home.ncia.com/~slarsson/sitejour.html swedish>english medicine * business * technology mailto:slarsson@... * mailto:s_larsson@... phone/fax: +1 cell phone: +1 laconner washington usa * bokenäs uddevalla sweden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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