RE: question regarding cervical fluid outside vagina and pregnancy

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Thank you for the reply.

Bertotti Metoyer, Ph.D.

Assistant Professor of Sociology

Gonzaga University

AD Box 59

Spokane, WA 99258

bertottimetoyer@...

From:

nfpprofessionals [mailto:nfpprofessionals ] On

Behalf Of Hanna Klaus

Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 7:54 AM

To: nfpprofessionals

Subject: RE: question regarding cervical fluid

outside vagina and pregnancy

To repeat, my reply is based on

unpublished, but 2 very real cases of women whose pregnancy I

attended, who 1. Denied having had intercourse ( we only came

close) and 2. Who had an essentially imperforate hymen so that

penetration was impossible. Yet she was pregnant!

Hanna Klaus, M.D.

From:

nfpprofessionals [mailto:nfpprofessionals ] On

Behalf Of Bertotti Metoyer, M

Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 4:13 PM

To: nfpprofessionals

Subject: RE: question regarding cervical fluid

outside vagina and pregnancy

Thank you to those who responded to my

inquiry. I know that several NFP programs teach that any genital contact

could lead to pregnancy due to (I have been told) the transport properties of

the cervical mucus, but I haven’t been able to find any scientific articles

that specifically demonstrate this action. Was there research that tested

this, or possibly a case study that demonstrated how semen deposited outside

the vagina could result in pregnancy? Or, was this NFP teaching derived

more from a basic understanding of how cervical fluid works?

Thanks,

Bertotti Metoyer, Ph.D.

Assistant Professor of Sociology

Gonzaga University

AD Box 59

Spokane, WA 99258

bertottimetoyer@...

From:

nfpprofessionals [mailto:nfpprofessionals ] On

Behalf Of BOMA - USA

Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 9:03 AM

To: nfpprofessionals

Subject: Re: question regarding cervical fluid

outside vagina and pregnancy

Professor

Odeblad, MD, PhD's work is the best reference for your questions. He

has studied the cervix and cervical mucus

extensively

over the years. Much of his work is on www.woomb.org

Sue

Ek

Billings

Ovulation Method Association - USA

www.boma-usa.org

question regarding cervical fluid outside vagina and

pregnancy

Hello,

I'm

writing an article about the ways that cervical fluid, the cervix and semen are

portrayed in gynecology textbooks. I have a few questions for the group.

I've been searching for the answers, and then decided I should just

ask the experts. J

Thanks in advance for any time/information you could spare.

1)

Do you know of any published articles demonstrating that the cervical

mucus can transport sperm from the introitus into the vagina, and up (as in

instances when semen is deposited outside the vagina)?

2)

Do you know of a published article that explictily describes the

relationship between cervical mucus and ovulation? It is often described

as detecting or indicating ovulation, but from the standpoint of someone who is

practicing NFP, the goal is to keep the sperm out of the mucus because it can

remain there until ovulation. Correct? (My point is that

emphasizing that cervical mucus indicates ovulation takes away from its

own important role in the conception process.)

a.

Especially if there is documentation regarding how many days ovulation

is likely to occur after first sign of fertile fluid.

b.

And maybe an article that demonstrates that cervical fluid can be

present in annovulatory cycles.

3)

Do you know of a published article that discusses the relationship

between semen and cervical fluid? At what point does the cervical fluid

take over?

Thanks

again,

Bertotti Metoyer, Ph.D.

Assistant Professor of Sociology

Gonzaga University

AD Box 59

Spokane, WA 99258

bertottimetoyer@...