Schwan's Anyone?

[Guest guest]

Look the word up in the dictionary and you will see that my definition is a

good one. You are talking about some of the negative associations with

dieting, and as far as I am concerned all disciplined forms of eating have

them. Even in carb counting they exhist, for example I would not be happy

with the meal you described where you ate the sloppy Joe with only the

bottom of the bun, some vegies and some pork rinds. I don't particularly

like pork rinds, I don't care much for raw vegies unless I drench them with

dressing, and I would not be happy with just the bottom of the bun. I also

don't like to exercise and therefore don't do much of it. I know all the

negative effects on my sugar from living this way, and I might change it

someday, but I doubt that today will be that day. LaWanda At 10:08 AM

8/22/03 -0400, you wrote:

>that is certainly one way of looking at the term diet. My opinion on the

>word diet is... a diet is where you limit your portions and control your

>appetite to lose weight. Just a different way of looking at it. Diet to me

>is a torturous act of suppressing your appetite, resisting foods you love,

>and an overall general feeling of I can't eat anything with the ultimate

>goal of losing weight.

>

>With carb counting, you have the flexibility of eating the foods you like

>and maintaining good bgs and don't have to experience those negative

>aspects/conotations of the word diet. In other words, you really don't feel

>like you are on a diet since you are eating the foods you were told not to

>by docs and maintaining good bgs by keeping track of the carbs. For years I

>was told don't eat a twinkie and now with carb counting, I can eat one,

>enjoy it,not feel guilty, not feel like my bgs is going to pay for it, not

>feel like who cares anyways, I give up, etc. all those feelings are gone and

>I can eat a twinkie and feel good about it and 2 hours later my bgs are 120

>or less via carb counting and dosing insulin according to how many carbs I

>eat. Heck, if I wanted to, which I never would, I could carb count an entire

>box of twinkies, dose humalog insulin for the carbs, eat the box of

>twinkies,and 2 hours later be 120 or less.

>

>

>

> Re: Schwan's Anyone?

> > >

> > >

> > > > There are also Healthy Creations ice cream bars that taste like

> > >those

> > > > creamsicles. They are both sugar and fat free. LaWanda

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

just post it to the list and I'll look it up for you if you are not familiar

with how to use www.calorieking.com I'd have no problem doing that for you.

Re: Schwan's Anyone?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > ,

> > > > >

> > > > > I agree that it's a shame that companies trade off one element for

> >another

> > > > > so they can sell something like " fat free " when it's still

> >carbo-loaded or

> > > > > even salt-loaded. I use the example of the old New York Seltzers

to

> >point

> > > > > out to people that the company sold itself as having a

great-tasting

> > > > > " sugar-free " beverage, and oh sure, it didn't say " sugar " but it

had

> > > > > FRUCTOSE in it, but they weren't violating any consumer laws 20

years

> >ago

> > > > > when they marketed the stuff. I remember drinking lots of that

stuff

> >and

> > > > > wondered two weeks later why I was gaining weight and then I

caught on

> >to

> > > > > their little game and stopped. Took me forever to lose that spare

tire

> >I

> > > >was

> > > > > inflating.

> > > > >

> > > > > Another question: My dietitian mentioned that although it's OK to

have

> > > > > candy, to avoid chocolate. Why would that be any more harmful than

> > > >anything

> > > > > else? Fortunately I'm not a " chocaholic " but wonder what would

make

> > > > > chocolate worse than anything else?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks,

> > > > >

> > > > > Bill

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Thank you for the offer, , I might take you up on it sometime. Even

if I never do, thanks for your willingness to help. LaWanda At 05:17 PM

8/22/03 -0400, you wrote:

>just post it to the list and I'll look it up for you if you are not familiar

>with how to use www.calorieking.com I'd have no problem doing that for you.

>

>

>

> Re: Schwan's Anyone?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > ,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I agree that it's a shame that companies trade off one element for

> > >another

> > > > > > so they can sell something like " fat free " when it's still

> > >carbo-loaded or

> > > > > > even salt-loaded. I use the example of the old New York Seltzers

>to

> > >point

> > > > > > out to people that the company sold itself as having a

>great-tasting

> > > > > > " sugar-free " beverage, and oh sure, it didn't say " sugar " but it

>had

> > > > > > FRUCTOSE in it, but they weren't violating any consumer laws 20

>years

> > >ago

> > > > > > when they marketed the stuff. I remember drinking lots of that

>stuff

> > >and

> > > > > > wondered two weeks later why I was gaining weight and then I

>caught on

> > >to

> > > > > > their little game and stopped. Took me forever to lose that spare

>tire

> > >I

> > > > >was

> > > > > > inflating.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Another question: My dietitian mentioned that although it's OK to

>have

> > > > > > candy, to avoid chocolate. Why would that be any more harmful than

> > > > >anything

> > > > > > else? Fortunately I'm not a " chocaholic " but wonder what would

>make

> > > > > > chocolate worse than anything else?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Bill

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

Bill,

I wish I could say that made me feel good. As it is I have always

seen my body as the necessary thing which carries my mind around.

Most of my life I have wished I didn't have one but it has to cart my

mind around. And if anyone tells me how good I look or how much

weight I've lost or any of that stuff I'll have to restrain myself

from wanting to slug them. Of course I will be polite but it will not

be pleasant to hear and I'll try to get off the subject as possible

even if it means I have to tell them I didn't do it by choice. I'll

have capitulated to this damned thing and am now being praised for

it! Self-confidence? Not for me.

I've probably said way too much already about this subject and I don't

expect anyone to answer; so don't be surprised if I remain quiet

except to ask or respond to specific questions.

Thanks a lot; and please know that I didn't mean to offend.

Pam

Pam,

I know what you mean about liking seasonal candy. My favorite thing is

Peeps, but now that I know I have diabetes I guess I'll have to give

those

up next year since we all know Peeps are just loaded with sugar. I

know, I'm

a big 51-year-old kid but I still love my Peeps.

Paraphrasing what LaWanda said in one of her posts, all planned eating

is a

diet however loose or rigid it is, so no matter how you shuffle it,

you're

on some kind of diet. And as tough as this might sound, for all the

valid

reasons you might have to put up a " fight " against discipline in what

you

eat, you can't fool your body, it knows what you eat and if you play

your

cards right, in time you will gain some much-needed self-confidence by

getting the upper hand on your sugars, probably losing some inches and

ultimately feeling better both physically and mentally. It won't be

your

rigid mother that wins this battle, it'll be you for treating yourself

right. And you can take comfort in knowing there are a bunch of us out

here

who have these same kinds of battles to different degrees, so we share

your

frustration and will try to bolster you up rather than tear you down.

I know

it's hard to realize but you don't have to have those chains of the

past,

you have a little support network right here right now to tell you

that

you're free to treat yourself right. You are wise to be in therapy to

deal

with the scars of your past, but just realize we are all here to help

you

along if we can.

Bill Powers

[Guest guest]

What are Peeps? I don't know them, at least not by that name.

Pam

hey Bill eat those peeps man... find out the carbs in one of them and

then

go for it!

smiles

Re: Schwan's Anyone?

> Pam,

>

> I know what you mean about liking seasonal candy. My favorite thing

is

> Peeps, but now that I know I have diabetes I guess I'll have to give

those

> up next year since we all know Peeps are just loaded with sugar. I

know,

I'm

> a big 51-year-old kid but I still love my Peeps.

>

> Paraphrasing what LaWanda said in one of her posts, all planned

eating is

a

> diet however loose or rigid it is, so no matter how you shuffle it,

you're

> on some kind of diet. And as tough as this might sound, for all the

valid

> reasons you might have to put up a " fight " against discipline in

what you

> eat, you can't fool your body, it knows what you eat and if you play

your

> cards right, in time you will gain some much-needed self-confidence

by

> getting the upper hand on your sugars, probably losing some inches

and

> ultimately feeling better both physically and mentally. It won't be

your

> rigid mother that wins this battle, it'll be you for treating

yourself

> right. And you can take comfort in knowing there are a bunch of us

out

here

> who have these same kinds of battles to different degrees, so we

share

your

> frustration and will try to bolster you up rather than tear you

down. I

know

> it's hard to realize but you don't have to have those chains of the

past,

> you have a little support network right here right now to tell you

that

> you're free to treat yourself right. You are wise to be in therapy

to deal

> with the scars of your past, but just realize we are all here to

help you

> along if we can.

>

>

> Bill Powers

>

>

[Guest guest]

Peeps are marshmellow candies usually in the shape of chickens that come out

around Easter time. It's all marshmellow and sugar coating which is why

they're so bad for you, but for some stupid reason I just love 'em.

Bill

[Guest guest]

no problem...

Re: Schwan's Anyone?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > ,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I agree that it's a shame that companies trade off one element

for

> > > >another

> > > > > > > so they can sell something like " fat free " when it's still

> > > >carbo-loaded or

> > > > > > > even salt-loaded. I use the example of the old New York

Seltzers

> >to

> > > >point

> > > > > > > out to people that the company sold itself as having a

> >great-tasting

> > > > > > > " sugar-free " beverage, and oh sure, it didn't say " sugar " but

it

> >had

> > > > > > > FRUCTOSE in it, but they weren't violating any consumer laws

20

> >years

> > > >ago

> > > > > > > when they marketed the stuff. I remember drinking lots of that

> >stuff

> > > >and

> > > > > > > wondered two weeks later why I was gaining weight and then I

> >caught on

> > > >to

> > > > > > > their little game and stopped. Took me forever to lose that

spare

> >tire

> > > >I

> > > > > >was

> > > > > > > inflating.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Another question: My dietitian mentioned that although it's OK

to

> >have

> > > > > > > candy, to avoid chocolate. Why would that be any more harmful

than

> > > > > >anything

> > > > > > > else? Fortunately I'm not a " chocaholic " but wonder what would

> >make

> > > > > > > chocolate worse than anything else?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Bill

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

[Guest guest]

marshmallow shaped chickens covered in grains of colored sugar such as

yellow, purple, etc. Basically, just a big blob of marshmallow with sugar

crystals all over it LOL BTW Bill I still say eat the heads off the peeps

and find out the carbs in 1 and just do what you have to do to cover for

them. If you get 40 carbs for lunch, eat 20 carbs of peeps and your good

smiles.

Re: Schwan's Anyone?

> Pam,

>

> I know what you mean about liking seasonal candy. My favorite thing

is

> Peeps, but now that I know I have diabetes I guess I'll have to give

those

> up next year since we all know Peeps are just loaded with sugar. I

know,

I'm

> a big 51-year-old kid but I still love my Peeps.

>

> Paraphrasing what LaWanda said in one of her posts, all planned

eating is

a

> diet however loose or rigid it is, so no matter how you shuffle it,

you're

> on some kind of diet. And as tough as this might sound, for all the

valid

> reasons you might have to put up a " fight " against discipline in

what you

> eat, you can't fool your body, it knows what you eat and if you play

your

> cards right, in time you will gain some much-needed self-confidence

by

> getting the upper hand on your sugars, probably losing some inches

and

> ultimately feeling better both physically and mentally. It won't be

your

> rigid mother that wins this battle, it'll be you for treating

yourself

> right. And you can take comfort in knowing there are a bunch of us

out

here

> who have these same kinds of battles to different degrees, so we

share

your

> frustration and will try to bolster you up rather than tear you

down. I

know

> it's hard to realize but you don't have to have those chains of the

past,

> you have a little support network right here right now to tell you

that

> you're free to treat yourself right. You are wise to be in therapy

to deal

> with the scars of your past, but just realize we are all here to

help you

> along if we can.

>

>

> Bill Powers

>

>

[Guest guest]

hey try leaving them out so they get hard and try one then! Peep lovers say

they are the best that way. I am not fond of peeps but leave them out in a

bowl for 24 hours then try one and I guess they are great.

Re: Schwan's Anyone?

> Peeps are marshmellow candies usually in the shape of chickens that come

out

> around Easter time. It's all marshmellow and sugar coating which is why

> they're so bad for you, but for some stupid reason I just love 'em.

>

> Bill

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

That's probably what I'm going to do come next Easter time, because I don't

want to give up my Peeps. Speaking of those, after hearing that Peeps were

going to make some special July 4th Peeps this year, I could never find any

after scouring all the local stores so I missed out on another opportunity

to have those. Boy, I must be rebelling against not having enough of them

when I was growing up, so now I can have 'em when I can find 'em.

Bill

[Guest guest]

,

That's right, they are much better when they get a little hard. I sometimes

put a few in the freezer for just a while and accomplish the same thing, but

you can't put them in for too long or else you won't be able to bite into

them! See, there is an art to eating Peeps. But alas, I have to wait til

Easter.....

Bill

[Guest guest]

, they're great!

Hey Pam I love those and did you ever try the new sweet tart

conversation

hearts? yummie!! again, look on the bag at the number of carbs per

serving

and then figure out what you can have and you'll be fine.

Schwan's Anyone?

> > >

> > >

> > > > Has anyone continued to order food from Schwan's after being

diagnosed

> > > > with diabetes? They are sending me a braille nutrition guide

but it

> > > > is being updated and may take time. Knowing such little I

really

> > > > don't have a clear concept of what's within range. Our route

man says

> > > > there are a few low calorie desserts, a couple of ice creams.

I'm not

> > > > a super big ice cream eater; so though I have some which I'm

slowly

> > > > finishing now, I could never order ice cream again and not

feel the

> > > > pinch. I need to know about meals. That he really couldn't

tell me.

> > > > Dave will still want a few things so we'll still order; but

what

> > > > guidelines others have used? I'm a very slow cook and even

slower at

> > > > doing dishes. Sometimes the idea of a two-hour or time span

from

> > > > beginning of preparation to doing the last dishes is just too

tiring,

> > > > and that's with a dish washer. In many aspects of life I'm

just a

> > > > plain slow mover. I always have been. . Before you ask,

Dave and I

> > > > have different ideas of how dishes should be washed. Sometimes

he gets

> > > > very flustered, making it just plain easier to do it myself.

> > > >

> > > > If this sounds whiny I guess maybe it's because this, as much

as the

> > > > actual ingestion of food, is one of the things which is

getting to me

> > > > now and then.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

When I mentioned them to Dave he said he thought they were sugar and

marshmallow, but in the shape of bunnies. Yes I've had the chickens

but didn't know their official name. I liked " those little hearts

with the sayings on them " long before I knew they were known as

conversation hearts.

Peeps are marshmallow candies usually in the shape of chickens that

come out

around Easter time. It's all marshmellow and sugar coating which is

why

they're so bad for you, but for some stupid reason I just love 'em.

Bill

[Guest guest]

Hey Bill go to www.calorieking.com and see if you can find the carb count

for a peep. I'd be interested to know.

cheers

Re: Schwan's Anyone?

> ,

>

> That's right, they are much better when they get a little hard. I

sometimes

> put a few in the freezer for just a while and accomplish the same thing,

but

> you can't put them in for too long or else you won't be able to bite into

> them! See, there is an art to eating Peeps. But alas, I have to wait til

> Easter.....

>

>

> Bill

>

>

[Guest guest]

I'm not at all a peep fan Bill but my wife and inlaws love those things! So,

each easter at my inlaws they pass around a bowl of hard peeps and I try one

and choke it down the hatch LOL. BTW you know they make peep bunnies? I'd be

curious to know if peep bunnies had less carbs in them than peep chicks.

Chicks are much larger than the bunnies.

cheers

Re: Schwan's Anyone?

> ,

>

> That's probably what I'm going to do come next Easter time, because I

don't

> want to give up my Peeps. Speaking of those, after hearing that Peeps were

> going to make some special July 4th Peeps this year, I could never find

any

> after scouring all the local stores so I missed out on another opportunity

> to have those. Boy, I must be rebelling against not having enough of them

> when I was growing up, so now I can have 'em when I can find 'em.

>

> Bill

>

>

[Guest guest]

hey Pam when valentines rolls around, I'll have my wife read to me the

carbohydrates in a serving of sweet tart conversation hearts and post it to

the list!

Schwan's Anyone?

> > >

> > >

> > > > Has anyone continued to order food from Schwan's after being

diagnosed

> > > > with diabetes? They are sending me a braille nutrition guide

but it

> > > > is being updated and may take time. Knowing such little I

really

> > > > don't have a clear concept of what's within range. Our route

man says

> > > > there are a few low calorie desserts, a couple of ice creams.

I'm not

> > > > a super big ice cream eater; so though I have some which I'm

slowly

> > > > finishing now, I could never order ice cream again and not

feel the

> > > > pinch. I need to know about meals. That he really couldn't

tell me.

> > > > Dave will still want a few things so we'll still order; but

what

> > > > guidelines others have used? I'm a very slow cook and even

slower at

> > > > doing dishes. Sometimes the idea of a two-hour or time span

from

> > > > beginning of preparation to doing the last dishes is just too

tiring,

> > > > and that's with a dish washer. In many aspects of life I'm

just a

> > > > plain slow mover. I always have been. . Before you ask,

Dave and I

> > > > have different ideas of how dishes should be washed. Sometimes

he gets

> > > > very flustered, making it just plain easier to do it myself.

> > > >

> > > > If this sounds whiny I guess maybe it's because this, as much

as the

> > > > actual ingestion of food, is one of the things which is

getting to me

> > > > now and then.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

When I looked at that site I found that a Peep has 32 calories but there's a

dash through the carb listing so not much info on it.

Bill Powers

[Guest guest]

,

Yup I know they make Peep bunnies as well as the chickens, and now you know

what they say don't you? " Chicken is better for you... " Uh, oh that's right,

we're talking about Peeps. Wish I had more nutrition info on them but

nothing in that database on gave me a link to. At one time I remember a

Thanksgiving where the people who make Peeps made up these little " hot dogs

in a bun " kinda things, small but they did look like a hot dog in a bun, and

they were ummm good. And a couple of years ago they made Christmas trees and

Santas that were all marshmellow peep-type candies too. Last year didn't

find any though.

Gee, just thinking about this is making me hungry....gotta stop that!

Take care,

Bill

[Guest guest]

hmm. Perhaps this upcoming easter in 2004 I'll have my wife go with me down

the isles and read the boxes to me on tape and I'll post all the stuff for

us all to eat like little easter bunnies!

smiles

Re: Schwan's Anyone?

> When I looked at that site I found that a Peep has 32 calories but there's

a

> dash through the carb listing so not much info on it.

>

> Bill Powers

>

>

[Guest guest]

whatever you do Bill, don't try to roast a peep over a camp fire. My buddy

did it and it ignited/blew up sort of and melted to nothing and fell in the

fire. Bare in mind, this was in seconds of just getting it close to the fire

LOL talk about eating things that are bad for us LOL

Re: Schwan's Anyone?

> ,

>

> Yup I know they make Peep bunnies as well as the chickens, and now you

know

> what they say don't you? " Chicken is better for you... " Uh, oh that's

right,

> we're talking about Peeps. Wish I had more nutrition info on them but

> nothing in that database on gave me a link to. At one time I remember a

> Thanksgiving where the people who make Peeps made up these little " hot

dogs

> in a bun " kinda things, small but they did look like a hot dog in a bun,

and

> they were ummm good. And a couple of years ago they made Christmas trees

and

> Santas that were all marshmellow peep-type candies too. Last year didn't

> find any though.

>

> Gee, just thinking about this is making me hungry....gotta stop that!

>

> Take care,

>

> Bill

>

>

[Guest guest]

Oh yeah, flammable Peeps. Putting next to a fire is a no-no because it's

basically air and sugar. At least you can roast a marshmellow, but even then

you gotta be careful. I never thought of putting a Peep next to a fire....I

know there must be a joke in this somewhere that the DJ side of me is

looking for but dang if I can think of a clever line here. Maybe my mind has

turned to marshmellows already. So what the hay if I'm Mr. Stay Puft

Man......

Bill

[Guest guest]

You're kidding....a Peeps fan club? Now I know I'm not so crazy after all.

(Well, there are some that have debated that for years and wanted to get me

a free room at the local mental hospital, but then I'm probably too crazy

for that place...) Wouldn't you know it, they have a Peeps website. OK, I

gotta head over there......

Bill

[Guest guest]

wHERE, TO THE MENTAL HOSPITAL? hAHA! lAwANDA At 08:17 PM 8/24/03 -0400,

you wrote:

>You're kidding....a Peeps fan club? Now I know I'm not so crazy after all.

>(Well, there are some that have debated that for years and wanted to get me

>a free room at the local mental hospital, but then I'm probably too crazy

>for that place...) Wouldn't you know it, they have a Peeps website. OK, I

>gotta head over there......

>

>Bill

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

So Dave was right when he said he thought he had seen Peep bunnies.

<g>

I'm not at all a peep fan Bill but my wife and inlaws love those

things! So,

each easter at my inlaws they pass around a bowl of hard peeps and I

try one

and choke it down the hatch LOL. BTW you know they make peep bunnies?

I'd be

curious to know if peep bunnies had less carbs in them than peep

chicks.

Chicks are much larger than the bunnies.

cheers

[Guest guest]

, Thanks.

hey Pam when valentines rolls around, I'll have my wife read to me the

carbohydrates in a serving of sweet tart conversation hearts and post

it to

the list!

Schwan's Anyone?

> > >

> > >

> > > > Has anyone continued to order food from Schwan's after being

diagnosed

> > > > with diabetes? They are sending me a braille nutrition guide

but it

> > > > is being updated and may take time. Knowing such little I

really

> > > > don't have a clear concept of what's within range. Our route

man says

> > > > there are a few low calorie desserts, a couple of ice creams.

I'm not

> > > > a super big ice cream eater; so though I have some which I'm

slowly

> > > > finishing now, I could never order ice cream again and not

feel the

> > > > pinch. I need to know about meals. That he really couldn't

tell me.

> > > > Dave will still want a few things so we'll still order; but

what

> > > > guidelines others have used? I'm a very slow cook and even

slower at

> > > > doing dishes. Sometimes the idea of a two-hour or time span

from

> > > > beginning of preparation to doing the last dishes is just too

tiring,

> > > > and that's with a dish washer. In many aspects of life I'm

just a

> > > > plain slow mover. I always have been. . Before you ask,

Dave and I

> > > > have different ideas of how dishes should be washed. Sometimes

he gets

> > > > very flustered, making it just plain easier to do it myself.

> > > >

> > > > If this sounds whiny I guess maybe it's because this, as much

as the

> > > > actual ingestion of food, is one of the things which is

getting to me

> > > > now and then.

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> > > >

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