Guest guest Posted August 22, 2003 Report Share Posted August 22, 2003 Look the word up in the dictionary and you will see that my definition is a good one. You are talking about some of the negative associations with dieting, and as far as I am concerned all disciplined forms of eating have them. Even in carb counting they exhist, for example I would not be happy with the meal you described where you ate the sloppy Joe with only the bottom of the bun, some vegies and some pork rinds. I don't particularly like pork rinds, I don't care much for raw vegies unless I drench them with dressing, and I would not be happy with just the bottom of the bun. I also don't like to exercise and therefore don't do much of it. I know all the negative effects on my sugar from living this way, and I might change it someday, but I doubt that today will be that day. LaWanda At 10:08 AM 8/22/03 -0400, you wrote: >that is certainly one way of looking at the term diet. My opinion on the >word diet is... a diet is where you limit your portions and control your >appetite to lose weight. Just a different way of looking at it. Diet to me >is a torturous act of suppressing your appetite, resisting foods you love, >and an overall general feeling of I can't eat anything with the ultimate >goal of losing weight. > >With carb counting, you have the flexibility of eating the foods you like >and maintaining good bgs and don't have to experience those negative >aspects/conotations of the word diet. In other words, you really don't feel >like you are on a diet since you are eating the foods you were told not to >by docs and maintaining good bgs by keeping track of the carbs. For years I >was told don't eat a twinkie and now with carb counting, I can eat one, >enjoy it,not feel guilty, not feel like my bgs is going to pay for it, not >feel like who cares anyways, I give up, etc. all those feelings are gone and >I can eat a twinkie and feel good about it and 2 hours later my bgs are 120 >or less via carb counting and dosing insulin according to how many carbs I >eat. Heck, if I wanted to, which I never would, I could carb count an entire >box of twinkies, dose humalog insulin for the carbs, eat the box of >twinkies,and 2 hours later be 120 or less. > > > > Re: Schwan's Anyone? > > > > > > > > > > There are also Healthy Creations ice cream bars that taste like > > >those > > > > creamsicles. They are both sugar and fat free. LaWanda > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2003 Report Share Posted August 22, 2003 just post it to the list and I'll look it up for you if you are not familiar with how to use www.calorieking.com I'd have no problem doing that for you. Re: Schwan's Anyone? > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > > > > > I agree that it's a shame that companies trade off one element for > >another > > > > > so they can sell something like " fat free " when it's still > >carbo-loaded or > > > > > even salt-loaded. I use the example of the old New York Seltzers to > >point > > > > > out to people that the company sold itself as having a great-tasting > > > > > " sugar-free " beverage, and oh sure, it didn't say " sugar " but it had > > > > > FRUCTOSE in it, but they weren't violating any consumer laws 20 years > >ago > > > > > when they marketed the stuff. I remember drinking lots of that stuff > >and > > > > > wondered two weeks later why I was gaining weight and then I caught on > >to > > > > > their little game and stopped. Took me forever to lose that spare tire > >I > > > >was > > > > > inflating. > > > > > > > > > > Another question: My dietitian mentioned that although it's OK to have > > > > > candy, to avoid chocolate. Why would that be any more harmful than > > > >anything > > > > > else? Fortunately I'm not a " chocaholic " but wonder what would make > > > > > chocolate worse than anything else? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2003 Report Share Posted August 23, 2003 Thank you for the offer, , I might take you up on it sometime. Even if I never do, thanks for your willingness to help. LaWanda At 05:17 PM 8/22/03 -0400, you wrote: >just post it to the list and I'll look it up for you if you are not familiar >with how to use www.calorieking.com I'd have no problem doing that for you. > > > > Re: Schwan's Anyone? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree that it's a shame that companies trade off one element for > > >another > > > > > > so they can sell something like " fat free " when it's still > > >carbo-loaded or > > > > > > even salt-loaded. I use the example of the old New York Seltzers >to > > >point > > > > > > out to people that the company sold itself as having a >great-tasting > > > > > > " sugar-free " beverage, and oh sure, it didn't say " sugar " but it >had > > > > > > FRUCTOSE in it, but they weren't violating any consumer laws 20 >years > > >ago > > > > > > when they marketed the stuff. I remember drinking lots of that >stuff > > >and > > > > > > wondered two weeks later why I was gaining weight and then I >caught on > > >to > > > > > > their little game and stopped. Took me forever to lose that spare >tire > > >I > > > > >was > > > > > > inflating. > > > > > > > > > > > > Another question: My dietitian mentioned that although it's OK to >have > > > > > > candy, to avoid chocolate. Why would that be any more harmful than > > > > >anything > > > > > > else? Fortunately I'm not a " chocaholic " but wonder what would >make > > > > > > chocolate worse than anything else? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2003 Report Share Posted August 23, 2003 Bill, I wish I could say that made me feel good. As it is I have always seen my body as the necessary thing which carries my mind around. Most of my life I have wished I didn't have one but it has to cart my mind around. And if anyone tells me how good I look or how much weight I've lost or any of that stuff I'll have to restrain myself from wanting to slug them. Of course I will be polite but it will not be pleasant to hear and I'll try to get off the subject as possible even if it means I have to tell them I didn't do it by choice. I'll have capitulated to this damned thing and am now being praised for it! Self-confidence? Not for me. I've probably said way too much already about this subject and I don't expect anyone to answer; so don't be surprised if I remain quiet except to ask or respond to specific questions. Thanks a lot; and please know that I didn't mean to offend. Pam Pam, I know what you mean about liking seasonal candy. My favorite thing is Peeps, but now that I know I have diabetes I guess I'll have to give those up next year since we all know Peeps are just loaded with sugar. I know, I'm a big 51-year-old kid but I still love my Peeps. Paraphrasing what LaWanda said in one of her posts, all planned eating is a diet however loose or rigid it is, so no matter how you shuffle it, you're on some kind of diet. And as tough as this might sound, for all the valid reasons you might have to put up a " fight " against discipline in what you eat, you can't fool your body, it knows what you eat and if you play your cards right, in time you will gain some much-needed self-confidence by getting the upper hand on your sugars, probably losing some inches and ultimately feeling better both physically and mentally. It won't be your rigid mother that wins this battle, it'll be you for treating yourself right. And you can take comfort in knowing there are a bunch of us out here who have these same kinds of battles to different degrees, so we share your frustration and will try to bolster you up rather than tear you down. I know it's hard to realize but you don't have to have those chains of the past, you have a little support network right here right now to tell you that you're free to treat yourself right. You are wise to be in therapy to deal with the scars of your past, but just realize we are all here to help you along if we can. Bill Powers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2003 Report Share Posted August 23, 2003 What are Peeps? I don't know them, at least not by that name. Pam hey Bill eat those peeps man... find out the carbs in one of them and then go for it! smiles Re: Schwan's Anyone? > Pam, > > I know what you mean about liking seasonal candy. My favorite thing is > Peeps, but now that I know I have diabetes I guess I'll have to give those > up next year since we all know Peeps are just loaded with sugar. I know, I'm > a big 51-year-old kid but I still love my Peeps. > > Paraphrasing what LaWanda said in one of her posts, all planned eating is a > diet however loose or rigid it is, so no matter how you shuffle it, you're > on some kind of diet. And as tough as this might sound, for all the valid > reasons you might have to put up a " fight " against discipline in what you > eat, you can't fool your body, it knows what you eat and if you play your > cards right, in time you will gain some much-needed self-confidence by > getting the upper hand on your sugars, probably losing some inches and > ultimately feeling better both physically and mentally. It won't be your > rigid mother that wins this battle, it'll be you for treating yourself > right. And you can take comfort in knowing there are a bunch of us out here > who have these same kinds of battles to different degrees, so we share your > frustration and will try to bolster you up rather than tear you down. I know > it's hard to realize but you don't have to have those chains of the past, > you have a little support network right here right now to tell you that > you're free to treat yourself right. You are wise to be in therapy to deal > with the scars of your past, but just realize we are all here to help you > along if we can. > > > Bill Powers > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2003 Report Share Posted August 23, 2003 Peeps are marshmellow candies usually in the shape of chickens that come out around Easter time. It's all marshmellow and sugar coating which is why they're so bad for you, but for some stupid reason I just love 'em. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2003 Report Share Posted August 24, 2003 no problem... Re: Schwan's Anyone? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree that it's a shame that companies trade off one element for > > > >another > > > > > > > so they can sell something like " fat free " when it's still > > > >carbo-loaded or > > > > > > > even salt-loaded. I use the example of the old New York Seltzers > >to > > > >point > > > > > > > out to people that the company sold itself as having a > >great-tasting > > > > > > > " sugar-free " beverage, and oh sure, it didn't say " sugar " but it > >had > > > > > > > FRUCTOSE in it, but they weren't violating any consumer laws 20 > >years > > > >ago > > > > > > > when they marketed the stuff. I remember drinking lots of that > >stuff > > > >and > > > > > > > wondered two weeks later why I was gaining weight and then I > >caught on > > > >to > > > > > > > their little game and stopped. Took me forever to lose that spare > >tire > > > >I > > > > > >was > > > > > > > inflating. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another question: My dietitian mentioned that although it's OK to > >have > > > > > > > candy, to avoid chocolate. Why would that be any more harmful than > > > > > >anything > > > > > > > else? Fortunately I'm not a " chocaholic " but wonder what would > >make > > > > > > > chocolate worse than anything else? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2003 Report Share Posted August 24, 2003 marshmallow shaped chickens covered in grains of colored sugar such as yellow, purple, etc. Basically, just a big blob of marshmallow with sugar crystals all over it LOL BTW Bill I still say eat the heads off the peeps and find out the carbs in 1 and just do what you have to do to cover for them. If you get 40 carbs for lunch, eat 20 carbs of peeps and your good smiles. Re: Schwan's Anyone? > Pam, > > I know what you mean about liking seasonal candy. My favorite thing is > Peeps, but now that I know I have diabetes I guess I'll have to give those > up next year since we all know Peeps are just loaded with sugar. I know, I'm > a big 51-year-old kid but I still love my Peeps. > > Paraphrasing what LaWanda said in one of her posts, all planned eating is a > diet however loose or rigid it is, so no matter how you shuffle it, you're > on some kind of diet. And as tough as this might sound, for all the valid > reasons you might have to put up a " fight " against discipline in what you > eat, you can't fool your body, it knows what you eat and if you play your > cards right, in time you will gain some much-needed self-confidence by > getting the upper hand on your sugars, probably losing some inches and > ultimately feeling better both physically and mentally. It won't be your > rigid mother that wins this battle, it'll be you for treating yourself > right. And you can take comfort in knowing there are a bunch of us out here > who have these same kinds of battles to different degrees, so we share your > frustration and will try to bolster you up rather than tear you down. I know > it's hard to realize but you don't have to have those chains of the past, > you have a little support network right here right now to tell you that > you're free to treat yourself right. You are wise to be in therapy to deal > with the scars of your past, but just realize we are all here to help you > along if we can. > > > Bill Powers > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2003 Report Share Posted August 24, 2003 hey try leaving them out so they get hard and try one then! Peep lovers say they are the best that way. I am not fond of peeps but leave them out in a bowl for 24 hours then try one and I guess they are great. Re: Schwan's Anyone? > Peeps are marshmellow candies usually in the shape of chickens that come out > around Easter time. It's all marshmellow and sugar coating which is why > they're so bad for you, but for some stupid reason I just love 'em. > > Bill > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2003 Report Share Posted August 24, 2003 , That's probably what I'm going to do come next Easter time, because I don't want to give up my Peeps. Speaking of those, after hearing that Peeps were going to make some special July 4th Peeps this year, I could never find any after scouring all the local stores so I missed out on another opportunity to have those. Boy, I must be rebelling against not having enough of them when I was growing up, so now I can have 'em when I can find 'em. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2003 Report Share Posted August 24, 2003 , That's right, they are much better when they get a little hard. I sometimes put a few in the freezer for just a while and accomplish the same thing, but you can't put them in for too long or else you won't be able to bite into them! See, there is an art to eating Peeps. But alas, I have to wait til Easter..... Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2003 Report Share Posted August 24, 2003 , they're great! Hey Pam I love those and did you ever try the new sweet tart conversation hearts? yummie!! again, look on the bag at the number of carbs per serving and then figure out what you can have and you'll be fine. Schwan's Anyone? > > > > > > > > > > Has anyone continued to order food from Schwan's after being diagnosed > > > > with diabetes? They are sending me a braille nutrition guide but it > > > > is being updated and may take time. Knowing such little I really > > > > don't have a clear concept of what's within range. Our route man says > > > > there are a few low calorie desserts, a couple of ice creams. I'm not > > > > a super big ice cream eater; so though I have some which I'm slowly > > > > finishing now, I could never order ice cream again and not feel the > > > > pinch. I need to know about meals. That he really couldn't tell me. > > > > Dave will still want a few things so we'll still order; but what > > > > guidelines others have used? I'm a very slow cook and even slower at > > > > doing dishes. Sometimes the idea of a two-hour or time span from > > > > beginning of preparation to doing the last dishes is just too tiring, > > > > and that's with a dish washer. In many aspects of life I'm just a > > > > plain slow mover. I always have been. . Before you ask, Dave and I > > > > have different ideas of how dishes should be washed. Sometimes he gets > > > > very flustered, making it just plain easier to do it myself. > > > > > > > > If this sounds whiny I guess maybe it's because this, as much as the > > > > actual ingestion of food, is one of the things which is getting to me > > > > now and then. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2003 Report Share Posted August 24, 2003 When I mentioned them to Dave he said he thought they were sugar and marshmallow, but in the shape of bunnies. Yes I've had the chickens but didn't know their official name. I liked " those little hearts with the sayings on them " long before I knew they were known as conversation hearts. Peeps are marshmallow candies usually in the shape of chickens that come out around Easter time. It's all marshmellow and sugar coating which is why they're so bad for you, but for some stupid reason I just love 'em. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2003 Report Share Posted August 24, 2003 Hey Bill go to www.calorieking.com and see if you can find the carb count for a peep. I'd be interested to know. cheers Re: Schwan's Anyone? > , > > That's right, they are much better when they get a little hard. I sometimes > put a few in the freezer for just a while and accomplish the same thing, but > you can't put them in for too long or else you won't be able to bite into > them! See, there is an art to eating Peeps. But alas, I have to wait til > Easter..... > > > Bill > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2003 Report Share Posted August 24, 2003 I'm not at all a peep fan Bill but my wife and inlaws love those things! So, each easter at my inlaws they pass around a bowl of hard peeps and I try one and choke it down the hatch LOL. BTW you know they make peep bunnies? I'd be curious to know if peep bunnies had less carbs in them than peep chicks. Chicks are much larger than the bunnies. cheers Re: Schwan's Anyone? > , > > That's probably what I'm going to do come next Easter time, because I don't > want to give up my Peeps. Speaking of those, after hearing that Peeps were > going to make some special July 4th Peeps this year, I could never find any > after scouring all the local stores so I missed out on another opportunity > to have those. Boy, I must be rebelling against not having enough of them > when I was growing up, so now I can have 'em when I can find 'em. > > Bill > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2003 Report Share Posted August 24, 2003 hey Pam when valentines rolls around, I'll have my wife read to me the carbohydrates in a serving of sweet tart conversation hearts and post it to the list! Schwan's Anyone? > > > > > > > > > > Has anyone continued to order food from Schwan's after being diagnosed > > > > with diabetes? They are sending me a braille nutrition guide but it > > > > is being updated and may take time. Knowing such little I really > > > > don't have a clear concept of what's within range. Our route man says > > > > there are a few low calorie desserts, a couple of ice creams. I'm not > > > > a super big ice cream eater; so though I have some which I'm slowly > > > > finishing now, I could never order ice cream again and not feel the > > > > pinch. I need to know about meals. That he really couldn't tell me. > > > > Dave will still want a few things so we'll still order; but what > > > > guidelines others have used? I'm a very slow cook and even slower at > > > > doing dishes. Sometimes the idea of a two-hour or time span from > > > > beginning of preparation to doing the last dishes is just too tiring, > > > > and that's with a dish washer. In many aspects of life I'm just a > > > > plain slow mover. I always have been. . Before you ask, Dave and I > > > > have different ideas of how dishes should be washed. Sometimes he gets > > > > very flustered, making it just plain easier to do it myself. > > > > > > > > If this sounds whiny I guess maybe it's because this, as much as the > > > > actual ingestion of food, is one of the things which is getting to me > > > > now and then. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2003 Report Share Posted August 24, 2003 When I looked at that site I found that a Peep has 32 calories but there's a dash through the carb listing so not much info on it. Bill Powers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2003 Report Share Posted August 24, 2003 , Yup I know they make Peep bunnies as well as the chickens, and now you know what they say don't you? " Chicken is better for you... " Uh, oh that's right, we're talking about Peeps. Wish I had more nutrition info on them but nothing in that database on gave me a link to. At one time I remember a Thanksgiving where the people who make Peeps made up these little " hot dogs in a bun " kinda things, small but they did look like a hot dog in a bun, and they were ummm good. And a couple of years ago they made Christmas trees and Santas that were all marshmellow peep-type candies too. Last year didn't find any though. Gee, just thinking about this is making me hungry....gotta stop that! Take care, Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2003 Report Share Posted August 24, 2003 hmm. Perhaps this upcoming easter in 2004 I'll have my wife go with me down the isles and read the boxes to me on tape and I'll post all the stuff for us all to eat like little easter bunnies! smiles Re: Schwan's Anyone? > When I looked at that site I found that a Peep has 32 calories but there's a > dash through the carb listing so not much info on it. > > Bill Powers > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2003 Report Share Posted August 24, 2003 whatever you do Bill, don't try to roast a peep over a camp fire. My buddy did it and it ignited/blew up sort of and melted to nothing and fell in the fire. Bare in mind, this was in seconds of just getting it close to the fire LOL talk about eating things that are bad for us LOL Re: Schwan's Anyone? > , > > Yup I know they make Peep bunnies as well as the chickens, and now you know > what they say don't you? " Chicken is better for you... " Uh, oh that's right, > we're talking about Peeps. Wish I had more nutrition info on them but > nothing in that database on gave me a link to. At one time I remember a > Thanksgiving where the people who make Peeps made up these little " hot dogs > in a bun " kinda things, small but they did look like a hot dog in a bun, and > they were ummm good. And a couple of years ago they made Christmas trees and > Santas that were all marshmellow peep-type candies too. Last year didn't > find any though. > > Gee, just thinking about this is making me hungry....gotta stop that! > > Take care, > > Bill > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2003 Report Share Posted August 25, 2003 Oh yeah, flammable Peeps. Putting next to a fire is a no-no because it's basically air and sugar. At least you can roast a marshmellow, but even then you gotta be careful. I never thought of putting a Peep next to a fire....I know there must be a joke in this somewhere that the DJ side of me is looking for but dang if I can think of a clever line here. Maybe my mind has turned to marshmellows already. So what the hay if I'm Mr. Stay Puft Man...... Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2003 Report Share Posted August 25, 2003 You're kidding....a Peeps fan club? Now I know I'm not so crazy after all. (Well, there are some that have debated that for years and wanted to get me a free room at the local mental hospital, but then I'm probably too crazy for that place...) Wouldn't you know it, they have a Peeps website. OK, I gotta head over there...... Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2003 Report Share Posted August 25, 2003 wHERE, TO THE MENTAL HOSPITAL? hAHA! lAwANDA At 08:17 PM 8/24/03 -0400, you wrote: >You're kidding....a Peeps fan club? Now I know I'm not so crazy after all. >(Well, there are some that have debated that for years and wanted to get me >a free room at the local mental hospital, but then I'm probably too crazy >for that place...) Wouldn't you know it, they have a Peeps website. OK, I >gotta head over there...... > >Bill > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2003 Report Share Posted August 25, 2003 , So Dave was right when he said he thought he had seen Peep bunnies. <g> I'm not at all a peep fan Bill but my wife and inlaws love those things! So, each easter at my inlaws they pass around a bowl of hard peeps and I try one and choke it down the hatch LOL. BTW you know they make peep bunnies? I'd be curious to know if peep bunnies had less carbs in them than peep chicks. Chicks are much larger than the bunnies. cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2003 Report Share Posted August 25, 2003 , Thanks. hey Pam when valentines rolls around, I'll have my wife read to me the carbohydrates in a serving of sweet tart conversation hearts and post it to the list! Schwan's Anyone? > > > > > > > > > > Has anyone continued to order food from Schwan's after being diagnosed > > > > with diabetes? They are sending me a braille nutrition guide but it > > > > is being updated and may take time. Knowing such little I really > > > > don't have a clear concept of what's within range. Our route man says > > > > there are a few low calorie desserts, a couple of ice creams. I'm not > > > > a super big ice cream eater; so though I have some which I'm slowly > > > > finishing now, I could never order ice cream again and not feel the > > > > pinch. I need to know about meals. That he really couldn't tell me. > > > > Dave will still want a few things so we'll still order; but what > > > > guidelines others have used? I'm a very slow cook and even slower at > > > > doing dishes. Sometimes the idea of a two-hour or time span from > > > > beginning of preparation to doing the last dishes is just too tiring, > > > > and that's with a dish washer. In many aspects of life I'm just a > > > > plain slow mover. I always have been. . Before you ask, Dave and I > > > > have different ideas of how dishes should be washed. Sometimes he gets > > > > very flustered, making it just plain easier to do it myself. > > > > > > > > If this sounds whiny I guess maybe it's because this, as much as the > > > > actual ingestion of food, is one of the things which is getting to me > > > > now and then. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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