Guest guest Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 Speaking of this (and not to hijack your post, Lyla), but I would love to hear any feedback about the Womanly Art of Breastfeeding and any suggestions for the next revision, because Diane Wiessinger, Pitman, and I will be writing the next revision. We plan to completely rewrite it, in a much more basic, accessible, girlfriend-to-girlfriend style. We'd love to hear any ideas you have or suggestions for improvements. we are trying to decide what basic book to carry in our boutique, along with the ultimate breastfeeding book of answers, making more milk, cathy genna's book - those all being for more complex issues/reference. i looked through the latest edition of nursing mother's companion and was disappointed in enough of the info/advice that i don't think it's the right one. i am a leader, but i will admit i have not read the latest edition of the womanly art, and i am hoping for feedback on that, specifically whether it would be a good " all purpose " book without a ton of philosophy - and also how up to date the actual latch and breastfeeding advice is. my business partners are going to look at jack newman's " the latch " and also breastfeeding made simple - feedback on these? other books you prefer? thanks!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 wow!!! who could imagine a better team! [sPAM]Re: favorite basic breastfeeding book for parents Speaking of this (and not to hijack your post, Lyla), but I would love to hear any feedback about the Womanly Art of Breastfeeding and any suggestions for the next revision, because Diane Wiessinger, Pitman, and I will be writing the next revision. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 I would like to have something in there about being careful to keep the mother-baby relationship as a top priority. I am concerned about some mothers who are so driven to make breastfeeding work that they lose their joy and closeness with their baby in the process. They fight with the baby to get him to latch, or let others bottle-feed so they can pump every 2 hours around the clock. I don't say this to criticize or add another layer of guilt onto overwhelmed mothers, but to suggest that it's ok to just be with their baby and do whatever level of breastfeeding is reasonable given the cards they have been dealt. Some mothers might feel that there is a medical need to avoid even a drop of formula, and I respect that; but babies need their mother's love even more than they need to have only 100% mother's milk (IMNSHO.I am also very concerned about the increasing overuse of pumps. I am concerned that pumps are becoming the new formula. Like formula, pumps are a tool that can help a mother and baby, or come between them. Pumps can be reassuring to mothers, or make her worry when she wouldn't have otherwise worried about her supply.It might also be helpful to have some information to empower mothers to ask questions of a breastfeeding helper, such as "describe your training," or "how do you approach a low supply situation"? Mothers need some way to sift through all the breastfeeding advice they get from various professionals who often know squat about breastfeeding yet spout opinions as if they were facts.I am so glad you are doing this, ! This is going to be the best edition yet!LynnetteSpeaking of this (and not to hijack your post, Lyla), but I would love to hear any feedback about the Womanly Art of Breastfeeding and any suggestions for the next revision, because Diane Wiessinger, Pitman, and I will be writing the next revision. We plan to completely rewrite it, in a much more basic, accessible, girlfriend-to-girlfriend style. We'd love to hear any ideas you have or suggestions for improvements.we are trying to decide what basic book to carry in our boutique, along with the ultimate breastfeeding book of answers, making more milk, cathy genna's book - those all being for more complex issues/reference. i looked through the latest edition of nursing mother's companion and was disappointed in enough of the info/advice that i don't think it's the right one. i am a leader, but i will admit i have not read the latest edition of the womanly art, and i am hoping for feedback on that, specifically whether it would be a good "all purpose" book without a ton of philosophy - and also how up to date the actual latch and breastfeeding advice is. my business partners are going to look at jack newman's "the latch" and also breastfeeding made simple - feedback on these? other books you prefer? thanks!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 Breastfeeding Made Simple is great.wow!!! who could imagine a better team! [sPAM]Re: favorite basic breastfeeding book for parentsSpeaking of this (and not to hijack your post, Lyla), but I would love to hear any feedback about the Womanly Art of Breastfeeding and any suggestions for the next revision, because Diane Wiessinger, Pitman, and I will be writing the next revision. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 That is exciting; you will make a great team! How about some really good illustrations of latch and different positions? Marine From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of West, IBCLC Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 5:50 PM To: Subject: Re: favorite basic breastfeeding book for parents Speaking of this (and not to hijack your post, Lyla), but I would love to hear any feedback about the Womanly Art of Breastfeeding and any suggestions for the next revision, because Diane Wiessinger, Pitman, and I will be writing the next revision. We plan to completely rewrite it, in a much more basic, accessible, girlfriend-to-girlfriend style. We'd love to hear any ideas you have or suggestions for improvements. we are trying to decide what basic book to carry in our boutique, along with the ultimate breastfeeding book of answers, making more milk, cathy genna's book - those all being for more complex issues/reference. i looked through the latest edition of nursing mother's companion and was disappointed in enough of the info/advice that i don't think it's the right one. i am a leader, but i will admit i have not read the latest edition of the womanly art, and i am hoping for feedback on that, specifically whether it would be a good " all purpose " book without a ton of philosophy - and also how up to date the actual latch and breastfeeding advice is. my business partners are going to look at jack newman's " the latch " and also breastfeeding made simple - feedback on these? other books you prefer? thanks!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 , What a fantastic group to author WAB--congrats! I agree with Lynette and hope that the Womanly Art maintains the philosophy of mother/baby togetherness. Despite society's push to separate mothers and babies and the comments I've heard that the WAB is too pushy about togetherness and their "doctrine" I feel so strongly that someone has to speak for babies' needs and acknowledge that time doesn't change these no matter what society is doing at the time. When my Mothering article on separation received a flood of angry letters I'll never forget the editor I worked with telling me not to worry and that it is guilt that makes people angry and sad about what they didn't do or have. I guess what I'm trying to say is I so hope that because of criticism or the need to be liked by all that the WAB waters down some of the most important tenets of its philosophy, especially re mother/baby togetherness. It is the strength and empowerment of this very philosophy that enraptured me as a LLL member and later a leader. And of course there is nothing personal about you prospective authors, just my own strong feelings being stirred.. Best of luck and would love to help in any way I can. Barbara Latterner I would like to have something in there about being careful to keep the mother-baby relationship as a top priority. I am concerned about some mothers who are so driven to make breastfeeding work that they lose their joy and closeness with their baby in the process. They fight with the baby to get him to latch, or let others bottle-feed so they can pump every 2 hours around the clock. I don't say this to criticize or add another layer of guilt onto overwhelmed mothers, but to suggest that it's ok to just be with their baby and do whatever level of breastfeeding is reasonable given the cards they have been dealt. Some mothers might feel that there is a medical need to avoid even a drop of formula, and I respect that; but babies need their mother's love even more than they need to have only 100% mother's milk (IMNSHO. I am also very concerned about the increasing overuse of pumps. I am concerned that pumps are becoming the new formula. Like formula, pumps are a tool that can help a mother and baby, or come between them. Pumps can be reassuring to mothers, or make her worry when she wouldn't have otherwise worried about her supply. It might also be helpful to have some information to empower mothers to ask questions of a breastfeeding helper, such as "describe your training," or "how do you approach a low supply situation"? Mothers need some way to sift through all the breastfeeding advice they get from various professionals who often know squat about breastfeeding yet spout opinions as if they were facts. I am so glad you are doing this, ! This is going to be the best edition yet! Lynnette Speaking of this (and not to hijack your post, Lyla), but I would love to hear any feedback about the Womanly Art of Breastfeeding and any suggestions for the next revision, because Diane Wiessinger, Pitman, and I will be writing the next revision. We plan to completely rewrite it, in a much more basic, accessible, girlfriend-to-girlfriend style. We'd love to hear any ideas you have or suggestions for improvements. we are trying to decide what basic book to carry in our boutique, along with the ultimate breastfeeding book of answers, making more milk, cathy genna's book - those all being for more complex issues/reference. i looked through the latest edition of nursing mother's companion and was disappointed in enough of the info/advice that i don't think it's the right one. i am a leader, but i will admit i have not read the latest edition of the womanly art, and i am hoping for feedback on that, specifically whether it would be a good "all purpose" book without a ton of philosophy - and also how up to date the actual latch and breastfeeding advice is. my business partners are going to look at jack newman's "the latch" and also breastfeeding made simple - feedback on these? other books you prefer? thanks!! A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 Hi Lyla, Kathleen Huggin's and I will have "25 Things Every Nursing Mother should Know" coming out in March: http://harvardcommonpress.com/content/books/details/25-things-every-nursing-mother-needs-to-know/ It is a small book of essay-type chapters, and 3rd in a series by the Series brothers and Martha Sears. While not an instruction type book, we hope it will make a nice shower gift or new mother guide. What was it about "The Nursing Mother's Companion" you were disappointed in? Always thinking of ways to improve..... JE Jan Ellen Brown IBCLC RLC Charlotte Pediatric Clinic http://www.charlottepediatricclinic.org/body.cfm?id=29 favorite basic breastfeeding book for parents we are trying to decide what basic book to carry in our boutique, along with the ultimate breastfeeding book of answers, making more milk, cathy genna's book - those all being for more complex issues/reference. i looked through the latest edition of nursing mother's companion and was disappointed in enough of the info/advice that i don't think it's the right one. i am a leader, but i will admit i have not read the latest edition of the womanly art, and i am hoping for feedback on that, specifically whether it would be a good "all purpose" book without a ton of philosophy - and also how up to date the actual latch and breastfeeding advice is. my business partners are going to look at jack newman's "the latch" and also breastfeeding made simple - feedback on these? other books you prefer? thanks!! Lyla Listen to 350+ music, sports, news radio stations FREE while you browse.Start Listening Now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 ,How wonderful! I echo what Barbara says about keeping mother and baby together - somehow I think this is a given considering the authors. My big beef these days is how those of us who support breastfeeding get a bad rap from the moms who are undermined by a lack of support systems, who know how important breastfeeding is and for whom it does not work out.I also hope in the new WAB that there will be evidence presented, i.e. sleeping arrangements.I attended a Meeting in the Bronx on "safe" infant sleep and the powers that be are so against co-sleeping and co-bedding despite evidence. I spoke up at every opportunity and people on the sidelines thanked me - still there was a heavy handed "babies are in danger in bed with parents" attitude and there was no data on the feeding methods of these babies.Do you see why I do not post very often - run-on sentences, shifting ideas - I do not have an e-mail editor!~Leigh AnneSpeaking of this (and not to hijack your post, Lyla), but I would love to hear any feedback about the Womanly Art of Breastfeeding and any suggestions for the next revision, because Diane Wiessinger, Pitman, and I will be writing the next revision. We plan to completely rewrite it, in a much more basic, accessible, girlfriend-to-girlfriend style. We'd love to hear any ideas you have or suggestions for improvements.we are trying to decide what basic book to carry in our boutique, along with the ultimate breastfeeding book of answers, making more milk, cathy genna's book - those all being for more complex issues/reference. i looked through the latest edition of nursing mother's companion and was disappointed in enough of the info/advice that i don't think it's the right one. i am a leader, but i will admit i have not read the latest edition of the womanly art, and i am hoping for feedback on that, specifically whether it would be a good "all purpose" book without a ton of philosophy - and also how up to date the actual latch and breastfeeding advice is. my business partners are going to look at jack newman's "the latch" and also breastfeeding made simple - feedback on these? other books you prefer? thanks!! Leigh Anne O'Connor, IBCLCleighanne625@...www.leighanneoconnor.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 Well stated Barbara, I am looking forward to this next revision it sounds like it’s in great hands. I feel the same way about the mother/baby connectedness that is critical not only to the success of the breastfeeding dyad but also to the development of each as individuals. Unfortunately many people think breastfeeding is JUST a feeding choice and that JUST the fluid and/or container is different, providing they aren’t pumping and feeding. The WAB conveys this philosophy and has stood up to the critics for 50 years, it would actually be nice to see some evidence based material to support rather than water that down. JMNSHO Lou Moramarco, IBCLC RLC From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of latternerb@... Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 8:23 AM To: Subject: Re: favorite basic breastfeeding book for parents , What a fantastic group to author WAB--congrats! I agree with Lynette and hope that the Womanly Art maintains the philosophy of mother/baby togetherness. Despite society's push to separate mothers and babies and the comments I've heard that the WAB is too pushy about togetherness and their " doctrine " I feel so strongly that someone has to speak for babies' needs and acknowledge that time doesn't change these no matter what society is doing at the time. When my Mothering article on separation received a flood of angry letters I'll never forget the editor I worked with telling me not to worry and that it is guilt that makes people angry and sad about what they didn't do or have. I guess what I'm trying to say is I so hope that because of criticism or the need to be liked by all that the WAB waters down some of the most important tenets of its philosophy, especially re mother/baby togetherness. It is the strength and empowerment of this very philosophy that enraptured me as a LLL member and later a leader. And of course there is nothing personal about you prospective authors, just my own strong feelings being stirred.. Best of luck and would love to help in any way I can. Barbara Latterner In a message dated 1/9/2009 9:38:22 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, lhafkenverizon (DOT) net writes: I would like to have something in there about being careful to keep the mother-baby relationship as a top priority. I am concerned about some mothers who are so driven to make breastfeeding work that they lose their joy and closeness with their baby in the process. They fight with the baby to get him to latch, or let others bottle-feed so they can pump every 2 hours around the clock. I don't say this to criticize or add another layer of guilt onto overwhelmed mothers, but to suggest that it's ok to just be with their baby and do whatever level of breastfeeding is reasonable given the cards they have been dealt. Some mothers might feel that there is a medical need to avoid even a drop of formula, and I respect that; but babies need their mother's love even more than they need to have only 100% mother's milk (IMNSHO. I am also very concerned about the increasing overuse of pumps. I am concerned that pumps are becoming the new formula. Like formula, pumps are a tool that can help a mother and baby, or come between them. Pumps can be reassuring to mothers, or make her worry when she wouldn't have otherwise worried about her supply. It might also be helpful to have some information to empower mothers to ask questions of a breastfeeding helper, such as " describe your training, " or " how do you approach a low supply situation " ? Mothers need some way to sift through all the breastfeeding advice they get from various professionals who often know squat about breastfeeding yet spout opinions as if they were facts. I am so glad you are doing this, ! This is going to be the best edition yet! Lynnette On Jan 9, 2009, at 8:49 PM, West, IBCLC wrote: Speaking of this (and not to hijack your post, Lyla), but I would love to hear any feedback about the Womanly Art of Breastfeeding and any suggestions for the next revision, because Diane Wiessinger, Pitman, and I will be writing the next revision. We plan to completely rewrite it, in a much more basic, accessible, girlfriend-to-girlfriend style. We'd love to hear any ideas you have or suggestions for improvements. we are trying to decide what basic book to carry in our boutique, along with the ultimate breastfeeding book of answers, making more milk, cathy genna's book - those all being for more complex issues/reference. i looked through the latest edition of nursing mother's companion and was disappointed in enough of the info/advice that i don't think it's the right one. i am a leader, but i will admit i have not read the latest edition of the womanly art, and i am hoping for feedback on that, specifically whether it would be a good " all purpose " book without a ton of philosophy - and also how up to date the actual latch and breastfeeding advice is. my business partners are going to look at jack newman's " the latch " and also breastfeeding made simple - feedback on these? other books you prefer? thanks!! A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! 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