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Have you considered adding coenzyme Q10 to your supplement regimen?

Please read about statins depleting the body of coq10.there are many

sources which deal with this problem..olsen

>

> Hello,

> My name is steve...I am 35 and had a heart attack 8 weeks ago 99%

> block in the LCA, 90% block in RCA, both opened to 100%, had

> medicated stents put in I am 6'-4 " 190lbs. I was on zocor for the

> first 4 weeks then the doc changed me to Vytorin 10/40. I have

> adopted an almost full veggie-low sugar diet except for 2 fish and

2

> chicken meals a week. I am currently walking/jogging 3-4 miles a

day

> and taking the following supplements along with 325 asprin, plavix

> 75, lopressor-10mg morning and nite and i quit smoking, soda, and

> double cheese pizza :)

>

> 2000mg/day Salmon oil(cold pressed)

> 750mg/day Flax seed oil

> 1000mg ester-c

> 150 b-complex

> 1000mg magneseum (relax the heart)

> 1 multi-vit

> 1 glass of wine each nite

> Most days I am maintaining a diet under 20 grams of fat 3g max

> unsaturated.

>

> Hospital during heart attack and before new diet(9-13-04)

> total 337

> ldl 174

> hdl 32

> tryg 841

> glucose 84

>

> 10-12-04

> total 208

> ldl 117

> hdl 31

> tryg 355

> glucose 86

>

> 11-9-04

> total 113

> ldl 61

> hdl 29

> tryg 103

> glucose 69

>

> Anyone have suggestions for raising hdl? ratio is currently good

but

> I would like to see it little higher I was thinking about adding

an

> additional fish meal a week...I actually am feeling pretty good

but

> want to keep a close eye as i have been reading alot of scary

stuff.

>

> Steve

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Thank you olson...my multi has 30mg...I was thinking about adding up

to 150 and will do additional reading.

Steve

> >

> > Hello,

> > My name is steve...I am 35 and had a heart attack 8 weeks ago 99%

> > block in the LCA, 90% block in RCA, both opened to 100%, had

> > medicated stents put in I am 6'-4 " 190lbs. I was on zocor for the

> > first 4 weeks then the doc changed me to Vytorin 10/40. I have

> > adopted an almost full veggie-low sugar diet except for 2 fish

and

> 2

> > chicken meals a week. I am currently walking/jogging 3-4 miles a

> day

> > and taking the following supplements along with 325 asprin,

plavix

> > 75, lopressor-10mg morning and nite and i quit smoking, soda, and

> > double cheese pizza :)

> >

> > 2000mg/day Salmon oil(cold pressed)

> > 750mg/day Flax seed oil

> > 1000mg ester-c

> > 150 b-complex

> > 1000mg magneseum (relax the heart)

> > 1 multi-vit

> > 1 glass of wine each nite

> > Most days I am maintaining a diet under 20 grams of fat 3g max

> > unsaturated.

> >

> > Hospital during heart attack and before new diet(9-13-04)

> > total 337

> > ldl 174

> > hdl 32

> > tryg 841

> > glucose 84

> >

> > 10-12-04

> > total 208

> > ldl 117

> > hdl 31

> > tryg 355

> > glucose 86

> >

> > 11-9-04

> > total 113

> > ldl 61

> > hdl 29

> > tryg 103

> > glucose 69

> >

> > Anyone have suggestions for raising hdl? ratio is currently good

> but

> > I would like to see it little higher I was thinking about adding

> an

> > additional fish meal a week...I actually am feeling pretty good

> but

> > want to keep a close eye as i have been reading alot of scary

> stuff.

> >

> > Steve

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Hi Steve,

Low HDL is an independant risk factor for heart disease so the

fact that your LDL and ratio are good may not be as protective as

you'd like. I got low HDL when I went on a very low fat diet. It

went up 5-7 points when I added a little monounsaturated fat [olive

oil] without any change in my LDL. It jumped up 10-15 points when I

took 1-1 1/2 grams of niacin. Niacin is famous for raising HDL. I

used Niaspan [the prescription form] because I got less flushing

with it. I also tried a form of niacin called inositol

hexaniacinate, which is heavily promoted by the vitamin companies,

but it didn't do anything. Lopid also raises HDL in some people and

might be a good alternative if you can't tolerate the niacin flush.

But niacin does more good things for your lipids than Lopid, several

things in fact. It's actually one of the best things around for

cardiovascular health. Congrats on the LDL and triglyceride

lowering.

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Thanks for the suggestions larry.

I am currently taking the 150 b-complex and adding brewers yeast to

my diet, but perhaps need to look at adding additional niacin. my c-

reactive protein is in normal range but my homocystine was very high

(12.7). it has now lowered to 6.1. I went out and got some additional

coEnzyme Q10 last nite(after reading all the positive information it

seems like a good move). My only reservation with adding additional

niacin is interaction with the other meds. I tried taking red rice

yeast extract and felt very poor.so I stopped after 3 weeks. perhaps

a conflict with the zocor I was taking at the time?

My goal is to get off the lipid meds all together due to the obvious

risk. I have made some pretty drastic life style changes. My body has

changed alot...I dont know what changes to attribute to what. The

first four weeks my body was withdrawling from nicotine, caffine,

sugars, poor nutrition.

Steve

>

> Hi Steve,

> Low HDL is an independant risk factor for heart disease so the

> fact that your LDL and ratio are good may not be as protective as

> you'd like. I got low HDL when I went on a very low fat diet. It

> went up 5-7 points when I added a little monounsaturated fat [olive

> oil] without any change in my LDL. It jumped up 10-15 points when

I

> took 1-1 1/2 grams of niacin. Niacin is famous for raising HDL. I

> used Niaspan [the prescription form] because I got less flushing

> with it. I also tried a form of niacin called inositol

> hexaniacinate, which is heavily promoted by the vitamin companies,

> but it didn't do anything. Lopid also raises HDL in some people

and

> might be a good alternative if you can't tolerate the niacin flush.

> But niacin does more good things for your lipids than Lopid,

several

> things in fact. It's actually one of the best things around for

> cardiovascular health. Congrats on the LDL and triglyceride

> lowering.

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