Re: hormones in milk?

[Guest guest]

Ditto this question - I'm drinking the wonderful rich Guernsey milk

from a cow due to calf in early January. Since I'm 47 (48 in Dec)

and in peri-menopause, I've wondered if Daisy Mae's pregnancy

hormones are a boost for me or a hindrance, or a non-issue.

Thanks,

Rhonda

> Hey all you farmers (or otherwise knowledgeable people),

> I was having a discussion last night about raw milk with some

folks,

> and one chimed in and said " Yes, it seems nice to drink raw milk,

> organic and free or hormones like rBGH and BST, but what about the

> bovine maternal hormones that are natural in the milk anyway?

Those

> would seem to be as bad as the other added hormones. How about

it? "

> Of course, I was taken off-guard. Haven't encountered this one

before

> (and I encounter a lot, since I have a lot of discussions about raw

> milk.) Could anyone shed some light on this?

> Thanks!

>

[Guest guest]

Recombinant Bovine Growth Hormone also known as Bovine Somatrophin is

a man-made copy of the natural " maternal hormones " . Injecting the

lactating cow with it triggers her body to produce greater quantities

of milk. Supposedly the synthetic version is undetectable in the

milk from a cow injected with it. So the dairy cartel and their

handmaidens in governent say, 'it's the same thing, so where's the

harm?'

Myself, I do not believe their cover story. Especially after two

scientists within so-called " Health Canada " [ now there's a mis-

nomer! ] were fired for blowing the whistle on the lobbying going on

between Monsanto and those who were investigating the risks/harms of

rBGH.

The scientific work has been done already indicating that rBGH

contributes to cancer in human beings who drink milk produced by cows

who are injected with it. But that research has been hidden. In the

book " Into the Buzzsaw ; the myth of the free press in America " one

of the chapters tells how a husband and wife team of investigative

reporters were obstructed then destroyed by court action for trying

to get the story out of the harms rBGH is doing ... present tense

= " is doing " as I write this ... to the American people.

See the Dr. R Schmidt's book 'Untold Story of Milk " for more detail.

In Canada, rBGH / BST is supposed to be illegal. But that doesn't

stop dairy farmers here from stepping over the border to the US and

bringing back all they need. The capper of the unspeakable

hypocrisy of those who pretend they're 'looking after' our food

supply, came a few years ago. It came out that the dairy herd of the

University of British Columbia, then at Parksville BC. was using BGH

on the cows and selling the milk into the co-op to be mingled with

the production of all the other herds on Vancouver Island.

They were doing something which they were well aware was completely

illegal, got caught at it, and what happened ? Absolutely nothing.

One of the hallmarks of fascism is that those with connections

are " above the law " . The mendacious dairy corporations being Exhibit

#1.

All of which, above, is anther reason why having control of your own

food supply - at ground level - is VITAL to a free people.

Gordon , Burnaby British Columbia

> Hey all you farmers (or otherwise knowledgeable people),

> I was having a discussion last night about raw milk with some

folks,

> and one chimed in and said " Yes, it seems nice to drink raw milk,

> organic and free or hormones like rBGH and BST, but what about the

> bovine maternal hormones that are natural in the milk anyway?

Those

> would seem to be as bad as the other added hormones. How about

it? "

> Of course, I was taken off-guard. Haven't encountered this one

before

> (and I encounter a lot, since I have a lot of discussions about raw

> milk.) Could anyone shed some light on this?

> Thanks!

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ;

I don't know the answer to your question exactly, although I will

research a little more, but I thought I'd just throw this info out

there. Maternal hormones are found in pretty high levels in milk,

even higher levels than the levels found circulating in the blood.

These hormones are often functional in the neonate, and seem to be

absorbed pretty well by the gut. Some hormones and milk proteins

seem to be nearly identical between cow and human, so it is possible

there would be some activity in humans. Now it's hard to say whether

the adult gut would be as permeable to uptaking hormones. There

was some study where athletes were fed colostrum during training and

then had some growth factor and antibody measurement taken. The

colostrum caused changes in some of these things. Although, they

couldn't tell if they were measuring the original cow hormones or

human one. There is a group in Japan (i think) that studies the

effects of bovine milk hormones on the development of prostate

cancer. They believe the estrogens(or was it progesterones?) in milk

cause prostate cancer. Of course they are looking at crappy milk, and

there work is far from even close to conclusive, but you aren't the

only one wondering how the hormone in milk affect us.

I know this isn't exactly what you were looking for, but I think it

is an interesting topic, so thought I'd throw in my two cents.

Take care;

Jill

>> would be, does this natural maternal hormone really exist in raw

milk, and if so, is it

> significant? Is it an issue at all, or do our bodies ignore it?

Is it in a small quantity? I think

> my friend's point was just that perhaps the naturally occurring

hormone was a bad thing.

>