Re: I have overcome MS

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In a message dated 12/15/00 9:33:30 AM Pacific Standard Time,

sweet@... writes:

<< And I have helped many people do the same by taking care of dental

work, doing chelation, detoxification and rebuilding. If you are

interested and serious please get back to me. >>

Whoever you are, will you please let us know who you are 'speaking' to and

what prompted this post?

Carol

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In a message dated 12/15/00 12:24:31 PM Pacific Standard Time,

sweet@... writes:

<<

<tt>

I am speaking to all those interested in improving their chances of

recovering from MS.

Ken >>

Well, then - out with it. Of course we all want to improve our chances of

recovering from MS!!

Carol

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I am speaking to all those interested in improving their chances of

recovering from MS.

Ken

> In a message dated 12/15/00 9:33:30 AM Pacific Standard Time,

> sweet@i... writes:

>

> << And I have helped many people do the same by taking care of

dental

> work, doing chelation, detoxification and rebuilding. If you are

> interested and serious please get back to me. >>

> Whoever you are, will you please let us know who you are 'speaking'

to and

> what prompted this post?

> Carol

[Guest guest]

> In a message dated 12/15/00 12:24:31 PM Pacific Standard Time,

> sweet@i... writes:

>

> <<

> <tt>

> I am speaking to all those interested in improving their chances

of

> recovering from MS.

>

> Ken >>

> Well, then - out with it. Of course we all want to improve our

chances of

> recovering from MS!!

> Carol

Carol,

I have been very successful by using a protocol that includes taking

care of dental work, chelation, other detoxification and rebuilding.

It takes about an hour and a half to go through it all in detail by

phone. Anyone who is seriously interested in going further with me

should feel free to contact me.

Ken

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Ken

Did I miss it somewhere, or did you tell us how to

contact you?

Carol

Re: I have overcome MS

>

> > In a message dated 12/15/00 12:24:31 PM

Pacific Standard Time,

> > sweet@i... writes:

> >

> > <<

> > <tt>

> > I am speaking to all those interested in

improving their chances

> of

> > recovering from MS.

> >

> > Ken >>

> > Well, then - out with it. Of course we all

want to improve our

> chances of

> > recovering from MS!!

> > Carol

>

> Carol,

>

> I have been very successful by using a protocol

that includes taking

> care of dental work, chelation, other

detoxification and rebuilding.

> It takes about an hour and a half to go through

it all in detail by

> phone. Anyone who is seriously interested in

going further with me

> should feel free to contact me.

>

> Ken

>

>

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<< I have a question, being fairly new to this list. Are people allowed to

promote their businesses, supplement sales, treatment modalities, etc.., on

this list?

Nothing against what you're doing, Ken, as my homeopathic doc does the same

stuff with chelation, etc., but it sounds like you're selling something.

Rani

>>

Hi there

Just to clarify - this list is not a forum for selling things or promoting

their businesses.

Sometimes the lines are blurred because some people find products (or

therapies) helpful and set up a business or train in that therapy. They are

then in a position where they can legitimately talk about their experience of

what has been helpful for their health but that might constitute promotion of

their busness. I suppose it is a question of tact and discretion.

Ken - it would be helpful if you could give us a little more detail of your

experiences and your viewpoint on MS and how to overcome it. I think it is

fair to say that people may be a little unnerved by statements made in the

way you have made yours! I am sure it is possible to overcome MS and the

little you have told us about the way you have done that is in accordance

with my experiences but, you are coming across as rather mysterious and it

would be helpful to have more detail!

Best wishes

Olivia

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Carol,

You can contact me at 604 683-4413 Pacific Time. I request that only

those who are serious should call. Otherwise you can ask me specific

questions on this egroup.

Ken

> > > In a message dated 12/15/00 12:24:31 PM

> Pacific Standard Time,

> > > sweet@i... writes:

> > >

> > > <<

> > > <tt>

> > > I am speaking to all those interested in

> improving their chances

> > of

> > > recovering from MS.

> > >

> > > Ken >>

> > > Well, then - out with it. Of course we all

> want to improve our

> > chances of

> > > recovering from MS!!

> > > Carol

> >

> > Carol,

> >

> > I have been very successful by using a protocol

> that includes taking

> > care of dental work, chelation, other

> detoxification and rebuilding.

> > It takes about an hour and a half to go through

> it all in detail by

> > phone. Anyone who is seriously interested in

> going further with me

> > should feel free to contact me.

> >

> > Ken

> >

> >

> > eGroups Sponsor

> >

> > Paid Net2phone Advertisement - Click Here!

> >

> > .

> >

[Guest guest]

Rani,

I charge $60 for telephone consultations but I consider that very

reasonable since there are people who have regained their health as a

result. I myself was bedridden in 1989 and I lead a completely normal

life today. If the group as a whole objects to my posting here I will

stop doing so. But that seems rather silly if people can benefit from

my experience.

Ken

> I have a question, being fairly new to this list. Are people

allowed to

> promote their businesses, supplement sales, treatment modalities,

etc.., on

> this list?

>

> Nothing against what you're doing, Ken, as my homeopathic doc does

the same

> stuff with chelation, etc., but it sounds like you're selling

something.

>

> Rani

[Guest guest]

Olivia,

My experience is that MS, in most cases, is caused by toxicity. And

most of the cases of toxicity come from dental mercury. One can

improve one's chances of recovering from MS, in my opinion, by

getting the proper dental care (or cleaning up the source of any

other toxicity), doing the right chelation, and doing the right kinds

of detoxification and rebuilding. One should not ignore the spiritual

side as well. The $60 that I charge for a consultation just helps to

put bread on my table. Same as if you were to visit a licensed

practitioner, which I am not. But you will not get all the

information that I talk about from a licensed practitioner.

Ken

>

> In a message dated 16/12/00 3:22:00 pm, kasparcat@a... writes:

>

> << I have a question, being fairly new to this list. Are people

allowed to

> promote their businesses, supplement sales, treatment modalities,

etc.., on

> this list?

>

> Nothing against what you're doing, Ken, as my homeopathic doc does

the same

> stuff with chelation, etc., but it sounds like you're selling

something.

>

> Rani

> >>

>

> Hi there

>

> Just to clarify - this list is not a forum for selling things or

promoting

> their businesses.

>

> Sometimes the lines are blurred because some people find products

(or

> therapies) helpful and set up a business or train in that therapy.

They are

> then in a position where they can legitimately talk about their

experience of

> what has been helpful for their health but that might constitute

promotion of

> their busness. I suppose it is a question of tact and discretion.

>

> Ken - it would be helpful if you could give us a little more detail

of your

> experiences and your viewpoint on MS and how to overcome it. I

think it is

> fair to say that people may be a little unnerved by statements made

in the

> way you have made yours! I am sure it is possible to overcome MS

and the

> little you have told us about the way you have done that is in

accordance

> with my experiences but, you are coming across as rather mysterious

and it

> would be helpful to have more detail!

>

> Best wishes

>

> Olivia

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Kim :

How did it help to you HBOT treatment?

How often and how long did you take it?

Good luck

> -----Mensaje original-----

> De: gmkmoore@... [sMTP:gmkmoore@...]

> Enviado el: Martes 19 de Diciembre de 2000 5:49 PM

> Para: mscuredegroups

> Asunto: Re: Re: I have overcome MS

>

> I think we should all share in what we have been using, if it helps,

> etc....

> I am always open to others sharing. I have been doing hyperbaric

> oxygen for

> 10 years. It helps me. Some people use other methods for treatment

> and I

> have looked into them, shared information with others, even helped

> others

> that are unable to dial phone, etc. obtain Procarin, etc. Please dont

> stop

> sharing.... One day we can beat this horrible disability.

>

> take care

> kim

>

> <<Archivo: ATT00112.htm>>

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,

What is HBOT treatment?

Ken

> Kim :

> How did it help to you HBOT treatment?

> How often and how long did you take it?

> Good luck

>

> > -----Mensaje original-----

> > De: gmkmoore@a... [sMTP:gmkmoore@a...]

> > Enviado el: Martes 19 de Diciembre de 2000 5:49 PM

> > Para: mscuredegroups

> > Asunto: Re: Re: I have overcome MS

> >

> > I think we should all share in what we have been using, if it

helps,

> > etc....

> > I am always open to others sharing. I have been doing hyperbaric

> > oxygen for

> > 10 years. It helps me. Some people use other methods for

treatment

> > and I

> > have looked into them, shared information with others, even helped

> > others

> > that are unable to dial phone, etc. obtain Procarin, etc. Please

dont

> > stop

> > sharing.... One day we can beat this horrible disability.

> >

> > take care

> > kim

> >

> > <<Archivo: ATT00112.htm>>

[Guest guest]

> The treatment KIm mentioned

> hyperbaric oxygen treatment

>

> ,

>

> What is HBOT treatment?

>

> Ken

>

>

> > Kim :

> > How did it help to you HBOT treatment?

> > How often and how long did you take it?

> > Good luck

> >

> > > -----Mensaje original-----

> > > De: gmkmoore@a... [sMTP:gmkmoore@a...]

> > > Enviado el: Martes 19 de Diciembre de 2000 5:49 PM

> > > Para: mscuredegroups

> > > Asunto: Re: Re: I have overcome MS

> > >

> > > I think we should all share in what we have been using, if it

> helps,

> > > etc....

> > > I am always open to others sharing. I have been doing hyperbaric

> > > oxygen for

> > > 10 years. It helps me. Some people use other methods for

> treatment

> > > and I

> > > have looked into them, shared information with others, even helped

> > > others

> > > that are unable to dial phone, etc. obtain Procarin, etc. Please

> dont

> > > stop

> > > sharing.... One day we can beat this horrible disability.

> > >

> > > take care

> > > kim

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I am interested in what ever info you have on the subject. I have been doing

the same. All metal is removed and I am into detoxing and rebuilding.

Thanks, Kaye

[Guest guest]

Hi Kay,

You may want to visit my egroup msfree. I do consultations with people

who are serious because it takes about an hour and a half to go

through everything in detail that I have done to recover my health.

Please get back to me.

Ken

> Hi,

>

> I am interested in what ever info you have on the subject. I have

been doing

> the same. All metal is removed and I am into detoxing and

rebuilding.

>

> Thanks, Kaye

[Guest guest]

What stage was your MS before making changes and where are you now?

| Hi Kay,

|

| You may want to visit my egroup msfree. I do consultations with people

| who are serious because it takes about an hour and a half to go

| through everything in detail that I have done to recover my health.

| Please get back to me.

|

| Ken

|

[Guest guest]

I was bedridden. I could not even feed myself. Today I lead a normal

life. I can walk miles, I can run, and I can take the sauna or steam

bath whenever I like.

Ken

> What stage was your MS before making changes and where are you now?

>

>

> | Hi Kay,

> |

> | You may want to visit my egroup msfree. I do consultations with

people

> | who are serious because it takes about an hour and a half to go

> | through everything in detail that I have done to recover my

health.

> | Please get back to me.

> |

> | Ken

> |

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In a message dated 12/25/00 6:38:50 PM Pacific Standard Time,

kcapozza@... writes:

<<

Hi. I am about to get my mercury removed this Thursday. I am currently

taking something called Transportox and a homeopathic remedy for the mercury

removal. I was told to take it 2 weeks prior to removal. Did anyone have

any problems afterwards? Is there anything else I should take? And better

yet, did it help?

>>

I didn't have any problems at all and didn't prepare for it at all.

[Guest guest]

Hi. I am about to get my mercury removed this Thursday. I am currently taking something called Transportox and a homeopathic remedy for the mercury removal. I was told to take it 2 weeks prior to removal. Did anyone have any problems afterwards? Is there anything else I should take? And better yet, did it help?

Thanks

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,

I have not used the products you mention so I cannot comment on them

But you should make sure the dentist uses a rubber dam in your mouth

and a vacuum tube on your chest a few inches from your mouth to

vacuum out the mercury vapors, or you could get very sick afterwards.

Ken

>

[Guest guest]

Ken,

My approach is detoxification also. Keep at it.

take care

kim

[Guest guest]

hbot is hyperbaric oxygen treatments. oxygen under pressure. a decompression chamber like the navy divers use for the bens.

take care

kim

[Guest guest]

Kim,

My approach is first detoxification, second rebuilding to give the

body the necessary elements for healing itself once one has done some

major detoxification. Please visit my website at:

http://www.intergate.net/zap

and please feel free to join my egroup at

msfreeegroups

All the best,

Ken

> Ken,

> My approach is detoxification also. Keep at it.

>

> take care

> kim

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/25/00 9:39:37 PM Eastern Standard Time,

kcapozza@... writes:

> Subj: Re: I have overcome MS

> Date: 12/25/00 9:39:37 PM Eastern Standard Time

> From: kcapozza@... ( Capozza)

> Reply-to: mscuredegroups

> To: mscuredegroups

>

> <DIV>

>

> Hi. I am about to get my mercury removed this Thursday. I am

> currently taking something called Transportox and a homeopathic remedy for

> the mercury removal. I was told to take it 2 weeks prior to removal. &

> nbsp; Did anyone have any problems afterwards? Is there anything else I

> should take? And better yet, did it help?

>

>

>

Hi

What is nbsp? and Transportox?

I have also had all mercury removed and have been trying to clear it all out

of my body . Drinking a lot of water is very important when chelating. Also ,

it has been suggested to me not to chelate until all the metal is out since

the thinking is it will pul more mercury from the teeth and into the body

until the teeth are dealt with. It is a long process but certainly worth

trying to recover health. I have found the homeopathic remedies to be the

most gentle detoxing of the metal. Some people can take the detox easier than

others . If you are young and not tooo sick, I think it is definately easier

. Be patient . God bless you.

Kaye

>

>

>

> kc

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Kaye,

You might want to talk to your practitioner about taking a lot of

vitamin C when having the mercury removed. Also, he/she should be

using a rubber dam and a vacuum tube sitting on your chest to remove

mercury vapors, otherwise you could get a lot worse by breathing the

vapors. You can indeed become worse if you do chelation while you

still have mercury in your mouth. I would not do that myself. I have

not heard of the remedies you mention.

All the best,

Ken Presner http://www.intergate.net/zap

> In a message dated 12/25/00 9:39:37 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> kcapozza@h... writes:

>

> > Subj: Re: I have overcome MS

> > Date: 12/25/00 9:39:37 PM Eastern Standard Time

> > From: kcapozza@h... ( Capozza)

> > Reply-to: mscuredegroups

> > To: mscuredegroups

> >

> > <DIV>

> >

> > Hi. I am about to get my mercury removed this Thursday. I am

> > currently taking something called Transportox and a homeopathic

remedy for

> > the mercury removal. I was told to take it 2 weeks prior to

removal. &

> > nbsp; Did anyone have any problems afterwards? Is there anything

else I

> > should take? And better yet, did it help?

> >

> >

> >

> Hi

>

> What is nbsp? and Transportox?

> I have also had all mercury removed and have been trying to clear

it all out

> of my body . Drinking a lot of water is very important when

chelating. Also ,

> it has been suggested to me not to chelate until all the metal is

out since

> the thinking is it will pul more mercury from the teeth and into

the body

> until the teeth are dealt with. It is a long process but certainly

worth

> trying to recover health. I have found the homeopathic remedies to

be the

> most gentle detoxing of the metal. Some people can take the detox

easier than

> others . If you are young and not tooo sick, I think it is

definately easier

> . Be patient . God bless you.

>

> Kaye

> >

> >

> >

> > kc

> >