Guest guest Posted June 14, 2004 Report Share Posted June 14, 2004 NVLD is a new term for me, what is that? I also have a son who is OCD/TS that is SO messy and has hoarding and hygiene problems. Gayle Re: 10 year Old's Hygiene Issues > Well, it sounds like a 10 yo boy to me! I was laughing at some of > the ideas suggested, like putting things in plastic crates. My son > (now 23, does not have OCD, although he does have NVLD) always had > the floor covered with clothes, and it was impossible to tell what > was clean and what was dirty. I tried the boxes/crates strategy > with him. After a few tries, he said, " Mom, when I'm looking for > something, I have to dig through all these boxes to find it. If > it's out in plain sight on my floor, I can find it more easily. " > > So, of course I suggested we could sort the items by type before > placing them in the crates--shirts in one, socks in another, etc. > He thought that might work. Then he complained that they took up > too much floor space, and he was always stubbing his toes on the > crates. > > So, I suggested perhaps the crates could be placed on shelves, with > handles so they could be pulled out easily....He said, " Wait, Mom, I > think I already have a piece of furniture just like that.... " and > pointed to his (perpetually empty) bureau ;-) > > The reality was that there just was no reward for him in the work it > would take to sort items and place them in crates (or bureau > drawers, for that matter)! Nor was there a reward for brushing his > hair, showering, or brushing his teeth! > > I think he's finally somewhat better in these areas, mostly because > he has a wife who picks up after him and nags him about his personal > hygiene (or lack thereof). But young boys just are like that. > > Actually my two dd's (ages 30 and 17) lived much the same way > (cleaner bodies, hair, and teeth, but clothes all over the floor) > for most of their childhoods. The oldest keeps a pretty clean home > today (maybe because of a need to babyproof), and the youngest, who > has OCD, claims that when she moves to a dorm next fall she will do > much better, so she won't impose on her roommate! We'll see....but > I do have some hope, since I've seen the others mature eventually! > > > > > > > Our list archives, bookmarks, files, and chat feature may be accessed at: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group// . > Our list advisors are Gail B. , Ed.D., Tamar Chansky, Ph.D., Aureen Pinto Wagner, Ph.D., and Dan Geller, M.D. Our list moderators are Birkhan, Castle, Fowler, Kathy Hammes, Joye, Kathy Mac, Gail Pesses, Kathy , Vivian Stembridge, and Jackie Stout. Subscription issues or suggestions may be addressed to Louis Harkins, list owner, at louisharkins@... , louisharkins@... , louisharkins@... . > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2004 Report Share Posted June 14, 2004 Non verbal learning disorder. Bonnie ================ Gayle Kolb wrote: NVLD is a new term for me, what is that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2004 Report Share Posted June 14, 2004 Well LOL , I guess the crates aren't for everyone but they have worked pretty well so far for us. They are sorted by type--stuffed animals, Harry Potter playset stuff, other categories. I'm sure the time will come when Kel doesn't want her room festooned with plastic crates. I really think the part about having to put things away before bed--so the mess can't grow day by day to overwhelming proportions--is key. It's interesting your son could find his things and preferred them all over the floor...one of my main gripes was that Kel would holler for *me* to come find whatever in all that mess. I have a friend with four kids--two ADHD and two NT. She has a " library checkout " system for toys and etc., the kids can only have a certain number at any one time and they have to turn one in to get something else. It works for her family but it seemed it would require more oversight and being involved than I wanted. Plus an extra room to " bank " all the toys. Take care, Kathy R. in Indiana ----- Original Message ----- > Well, it sounds like a 10 yo boy to me! I was laughing at some of > the ideas suggested, like putting things in plastic crates. My son > (now 23, does not have OCD, although he does have NVLD) always had > the floor covered with clothes, and it was impossible to tell what > was clean and what was dirty. I tried the boxes/crates strategy > with him. After a few tries, he said, " Mom, when I'm looking for > something, I have to dig through all these boxes to find it. If > it's out in plain sight on my floor, I can find it more easily. " > > So, of course I suggested we could sort the items by type before > placing them in the crates--shirts in one, socks in another, etc. > He thought that might work. Then he complained that they took up > too much floor space, and he was always stubbing his toes on the > crates. > > So, I suggested perhaps the crates could be placed on shelves, with > handles so they could be pulled out easily....He said, " Wait, Mom, I > think I already have a piece of furniture just like that.... " and > pointed to his (perpetually empty) bureau ;-) > > The reality was that there just was no reward for him in the work it > would take to sort items and place them in crates (or bureau > drawers, for that matter)! Nor was there a reward for brushing his > hair, showering, or brushing his teeth! > > I think he's finally somewhat better in these areas, mostly because > he has a wife who picks up after him and nags him about his personal > hygiene (or lack thereof). But young boys just are like that. > > Actually my two dd's (ages 30 and 17) lived much the same way > (cleaner bodies, hair, and teeth, but clothes all over the floor) > for most of their childhoods. The oldest keeps a pretty clean home > today (maybe because of a need to babyproof), and the youngest, who > has OCD, claims that when she moves to a dorm next fall she will do > much better, so she won't impose on her roommate! We'll see....but > I do have some hope, since I've seen the others mature eventually! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2004 Report Share Posted June 15, 2004 Isn't it amazing that the stereotype for OCD is someone who is maticulously clean and tidy and none of our kids seem to have that!!! My oldest daughter used to not let anyone touch things on the floor of her room--each little piece of paper had its own spot. She is much better now but I still have to encourage the room cleaning. I found that by assigning her a different section at a time and giving her thirty minutes a day really works. She knows what to do and how long she has to do it. We also have " family pick-up time " from 7:30 to 8:00 at night. If they don't pick up, the TV stays off. They hated it at first and wanted to keep their games out but now they just do it. It is very nice for me to get up in the morning and see the floor of the living room! Kelley in NV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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