Guest guest Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 How does one get old kombucha??.....I pace the floors waiting for mine to brew, and you can bet...Not one drop gets even remotely old.. Oops got to run, time for another glass, Of fresh bubbly kt.......God I love this stuff.....P.S. My wife had a very large knot on her left arm, it was hard, and while the docs said is was not a danger, was always a trouble to her...She has been drinking kt less than 2 weeks, and hard knot is almost gone.....Don't reckon we will ever know what old kombucha taste like...but we sure know what fresh kombucha does for us....How many nights did she pace the floor, not being able to sleep.....Now sleeps sound all night long...Ms jennifer, If you are reading this, thnx for helping us get started with kt, Now we have the task of getting our friends and family to try....So much need, so little trust... Lets all go and have many really great days.....ron and vivian in leander tx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 I have another thing to say about the Kombucha tea. Coincidence or not, I had a big, ingrown " fatty tumor " but evidently not seriously infected, between my shoulder blades that the doctor said was not serious. And since it was between the shoulder blades, and I'm not a tiny little thing, it wasn't very noticeable since I'm far beyond the bikini stage. But for some reason, this thing opened up a week or so ago, and I think that I must have gotten about a test tube of solid, whitish " stuff " out of it. Now I can't see it in the double mirror when I look for it, and I'm thanking Kombucha tea for it. Shortly after starting the K tea, I had a rash, but from what I've been reading on this forum, I simply started drinking more water, and it went away. Most likely the de-tox effects. Who knows what other effects it will have in our bodies, this good tasting, addictive stuff. Pat in CA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 >Acetone smells like nail polish remover and if you smell that in your >KT of any age (I never have)then it would be best to toss it out. I did get this one time. I had about 2 ounces of KT left in a closed bottle, and it rattled around in my car for more than 2 weeks in intense heat, it was probably 140 degrees at times inside the closed car. When I opened the bottle, it made a huge WHOOMP sound of escaping gas, and smelled terrible and I threw it out. It was before I knew about the acetone thing. So, 1) it doesn't happen under normal conditions, and 2) it's very obvious when it does happen. So basically, this rare possibility is being used to scare people about KT. A strong vinegar-KT smell is fine. If it smells like solvent, don't drink it. --V ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 Pat, others on the list have had similar successes with fatty tumors We know how well KT works with skin problems because we can see them with our own eyes. This is making me realize that there are many other internal healings going on in all of us that we don't/can't see. And, these skin ailments won't clear up unless our internal health is improving in any case. --V At 02:34 PM 9/3/2006, you wrote: >I have another thing to say about the Kombucha tea. >Coincidence or not, I had a big, ingrown " fatty tumor " >but evidently not seriously infected, between my >shoulder blades that the doctor said was >not serious. And since it was between the shoulder >blades, and I'm not a tiny little thing, it wasn't very >noticeable since I'm far beyond the bikini stage. >But for some reason, this thing opened up a week >or so ago, and I think that I must have gotten about >a test tube of solid, whitish " stuff " out of it. Now I >can't see it in the double mirror when I look for it, >and I'm thanking Kombucha tea for it. >Shortly after starting the K tea, I had a rash, but >from what I've been reading on this forum, I simply >started drinking more water, and it went away. >Most likely the de-tox effects. >Who knows what other effects it will have in our >bodies, this good tasting, addictive stuff. > >Pat in CA ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 >believe! I love to drink it too, when it is not yeasty...working on >that problem, and pacing the floor till nonyeasty KT is ready. I do >have " old " KT because I save some for vinegar, which is delicious >with cucumbers. But according to the group, it is safe??!! yes of course it is safe. I have several jars of vinegar that I use for salad dressings, skin tonics, wound antiseptic, etc etc. Do not worry. seriously. --V ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 Sander, that would be the correct answer, DING DING DING, you win! Thanks for adding that, I was lacking the proper explanation. The same (or similar) smell can occur in Kefir when left in a closed jar with alot of airspace.. Esters are not considered harmful but often have odd fruity, medicinal and or chemical flavors. Beau > > > > > > Someone recently told me that drinking " old kombucha " can be fatal, > > shutting down or at least damaging your internal organs. She read > > that when if got too old, it produced an acetone by-product. I > > thought old kombucha was just vinegar. I keep regular vinegar for > > months, even a year in some cases. Store bought vinegar is > > pasturized, though, and KT has live bacteria in it. Does anyone know > > anything about how old is " old " or if it is even true at all. > > > > Sounds like crap to me. I guess under certain circumstances kombucha > can smell like acetone. However, this doesn't necessarily mean there's > actually acetone present. More likely it's ethyl acetate, an esther > that is synthesized from acetic acid and ethanol, or some other esther. > In wine making an acetone smell usually indicates that the wine has > been spoiled with high levels of acetic acid. > > Sander > > PS. This is my first post to this group. I've been brewing kombucha > for almost two years. > > > -- Evolving Creations Glass www.evolvingcreations.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 Thank you for this. I am certain this is the explanation. Is everyone listening? --V >Sander, >that would be the correct answer, DING DING DING, you win! >Thanks for adding that, I was lacking the proper explanation. >The same (or similar) smell can occur in Kefir when left in a closed jar >with alot of airspace.. Esters are not considered harmful but often have odd >fruity, medicinal and or chemical flavors. >Beau > > > > > > > Someone recently told me that drinking " old kombucha " can be fatal, > > > shutting down or at least damaging your internal organs. She read > > > that when if got too old, it produced an acetone by-product. I > > > thought old kombucha was just vinegar. I keep regular vinegar for > > > months, even a year in some cases. Store bought vinegar is > > > pasturized, though, and KT has live bacteria in it. Does anyone know > > > anything about how old is " old " or if it is even true at all. > > > > > > > Sounds like crap to me. I guess under certain circumstances kombucha > > can smell like acetone. However, this doesn't necessarily mean there's > > actually acetone present. More likely it's ethyl acetate, an esther > > that is synthesized from acetic acid and ethanol, or some other esther. > > In wine making an acetone smell usually indicates that the wine has > > been spoiled with high levels of acetic acid. > > > > Sander > > > > PS. This is my first post to this group. I've been brewing kombucha > > for almost two years. ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 >Wonders what I've thrown out that may have been actualy still okay. >Audrey > > ><snippet> > > The same (or similar) smell can occur in Kefir when left in a closed >jar > > with alot of airspace.. Esters are not considered harmful but often >have odd > > fruity, medicinal and or chemical flavors. Yes, I think this " when in doubt throw it out " advice is fine if people are experienced brewers and know what to expect as normal or not, but it's way too easy for less-experienced brewers to be spooked by suggestions about scary smells or visuals. A new brewer whom I got started recently spooked about mold and threw out her brews before consulting me, when there was literally NOTHING wrong. So, before anyone goes throwing out their brews, I'd strongly recommend really checking it out carefully with people on this list or longtime brewers you may know personally before throwing it out. It's not going to harm anyone to hold onto the brew for a few days while you check out a problem. Just don't drink it in the meantime. [and remember in the case of mold it is ALWAYS FUZZY-- touch it and you will IMMEDIATELY know the answer] The one time I did run into the problem of the ethyl acetate smell, believe me, there was NO MISTAKING that this was not something I wanted to drink-- it was really vile smelling, made my toes curl. Not just a variant of the normal KT smell. KT has a wide range of normal scents that will vary across the seasons and various teas and sugars. My feeling at the time was that it had just been superheated in a closed bottle and had just " gone off " ... I didn't feel that it was a deadly poison-- haven't you ever had kefir or yogurt in a hot closed container smell really strange and inedible? But you wouldn't decide all yogurt was a deadly poison as a result, you'd realize that live foods superheated in a closed container aren't going to smell pretty. But anyway, someone's brew sitting on the counter is not going to go off like that, really. No panic needed. --V ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 > > Someone recently told me that drinking " old kombucha " can be fatal, > > shutting down or at least damaging your internal organs. She read > > that when if got too old, it produced an acetone by-product. >Sounds like crap to me. I guess under certain circumstances kombucha >can smell like acetone. However, this doesn't necessarily mean there's >actually acetone present. More likely it's ethyl acetate, an esther >that is synthesized from acetic acid and ethanol, or some other esther. >In wine making an acetone smell usually indicates that the wine has >been spoiled with high levels of acetic acid. > >Sander > >PS. This is my first post to this group. I've been brewing kombucha >for almost two years. Welcome, Sander, and thank you for sharing your knowledge. -- ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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