Guest guest Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 The whole issue appears to revolve around " Certification " . I would question the capability of anyone to be able to intimately inspect every area and element of a property. Where are the Standards of performance reflecting what is being assessed referenced? These (ISO/ASHRE?etc) standards should be mandatory on any worthwhile certificate. The service provided is not without some value - but this should probably be limited to a statement (rather than a certificate) that the building has been assessed on a certain date using (reference standard) criteria. I would be surprised if " certification " in the manner currently conducted would meet the criteria of the certifier's professional indemnity insurer who must ultimately underwrite the risk associated with such certification. The use of the USA map appears to reflect that such seals are endorsed by a national government instrumentality. You may also need to ensure that it's use is not forbidden or that it has that endorsement. I'd suggest that something along the lines of the seal shown would be appropriate (seal of assessment) if issued by an accreditation body... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 Hello, Healthy Home Assurance Certification. And become a CEHI? How much does that cost? (Sounds very rigorous, you must be an expert with that next to your name) I hope this is the bottom, because I can't take much more. I couldn't elaborate more proficiently than Mr. Reaney what an assault on legitimate science this package is. So I won't. But, I'm sure it's very profitable with the a good sales pitch. P. McCaffrey Certified Industrial Hygienist ~ Any opinions my own and not necessarily that of my employer or any organization or associate. Re: Re: Heathy Indoor Air. Chuck, Good job, Chuck, of describing the industry and the specific issues, especially those which "certify" houses as generally "healthy" based solely on a propriatary moisture inspection. There are many other issues involved in the "health' of a home. For example, the HUD Healthy Home program identifies moisture and mold as but one of 7 categories of concern. Carl Grimes Healthy Habitats LLC ----- > Ole, > > Please bear with me while I attempt to gain more information regarding the > organization. If you don't hear back from me in more detail in a few days, > please send me a reminder. I do intend to reply more fully when I have more > information. > > For now, my initial reaction is based upon the following: > > 1. There are more than enough home inspectors. > > 2. There are more than enough organizations representing home inspectors. > > 3. There are too many marketing schemes designed and intended to simply > provide more income to the organizations and member inspectors. > > 4. There are too many "certifications" in the industry, most of which are > worthless and whose main value is being an element in their own self-serving > marketing strategy, and that only serve to add to the morass of confusion > that the prospective clients must sort though in order to make intelligent, > informed choices when they have concerns and must make choices about who > best to hire to help them. > > 5. There are too many home inspectors with little or no true education > and/or experience to adequately qualify them as IAQ professionals, yet this > is the image that their BS "certifications" and associated marketing plans > seeks to promote. For most of them, everything is about mold. For this > one, everything is about moisture and mold. Duh. > > 6. This "healthy home assurance certification" just adds another BS > "certification" as an extension of the BS certification of those providing > it, and what does it really mean? What if a roof leak develops a day after > the fancy "seal" is applied to the structure? Are the occupants magically > protected by some force field to protect them from that for the next 364 > days after the seal is applied? Of course not! > > 7. These types of organizations, certifications, and marketing schemes are > part of the problems with the integrity of this industry, not even close to > being part of the solutions. They facilitate the impression of a misleading > level of expertise to largely under qualified and under experienced > "professionals" to practice outside of their field of expertise, by > attempting to apply an automated, idiot-proof, "cookie-cutter" approach to a > field that requires years of experience and many areas of complex related > disciplines in order to adequately understand the issues enough to call, > present themselves and provide meaningful services to people who truly need > help at something other than draining their bank accounts. That is, if the > practitioners actually have a conscience and a soul. > > Chuck Reaney > > > > > Heathy Indoor Air. > > > I'm new to the group but am with a public company that does traditional > inspections as well as indoor air quality testing. A new generation of > inspectors so to say. A home or business will be inspected and when healthy > displays the attached seal. I am proud to post the Healthy Home Assurance > Certification on my home. > > Company website www.espusa.net or number > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > FAIR USE NOTICE: > > This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. 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