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Bob,

My 2 oz dark bottles with droppers seem to be made out of glass and rubber. I have no plastic in them outside of the outer lid. I would be very wary of using a plastic dropper in direct contact with DMSO.

doug

Cayenne/DMSO tincture

Hi Garnet!

I have a question for the list: I put my cayenne/DMSO tincture in a dark glass 2 oz dropper bottle. The dropper tube is 'plastic' and the bulb is 'rubber' so will the DMSO ruin the conformity or release dangerous chemicals into the tincture?. The DMSO comes in a plastic canister/jar.

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Staya Udanvti Bob wrote:

> Hi Garnet!

>

> Thanks for the idea of making the tincture using DMSO. Great Idea,

> but how strong is it?.

You can always dose to effect and play around with diluting your tincture.

>

> I bought a pound of 190,000 HU cayenne a couple of years ago locally

> and have about 2 oz left. (I use it in cooking also as I love spicy

> Mexican food). I made my last tincture using WV white lightning at

> about 190 proof. My cayenne tincture is horrible tasting but will

> kick start your breathing and blood flow.

How much do you take, and what are the symptoms you are using it for?

>

> You can buy the 180,000 HU from Spice Discounters. I have used them

> for several years and have found them very honest and they will bend

> over backwards to help out.

>

> http://www.spicediscounters.com/hbspc1.html

>

> A865 Cayenne Pepper (180HU) Powder, =$5.95 @ 4 oz , =$17.95 @1 lb

> + SH.

That beats the heck out of Whole Foods prices. They are convenient but

you pay for it. Thanks for the source!

>

> I had a total right knee replacement Dec 6, 2004 and it has not

> healed correctly. I have large bulges of scar tissue restricting full

> movement and I am thinking of using the Cayenne/DMSO tincture to

> reduce the scar tissue. Plain DMSO only turns my skin red with some

> swelling for about 6 hours then goes away but has done nothing for

> the scar tissue issue so far.

DMSO is suppose to break down the collagen cross linking and help

flatten scars but I don't think it will eliminate the scar tissue.

I have heard of using Vit E for scar tissue on the heart after a heart

attack. And I have a nephew that benefitted when my sister put it on

his chicken pox scars that he had on his back from a bad case that had

gotten infected. They are still there but much smaller and less deep.

>

> I have a question for the list: I put my cayenne/DMSO tincture in a

> dark glass 2 oz dropper bottle. The dropper tube is 'plastic' and the

> bulb is 'rubber' so will the DMSO ruin the conformity or release

> dangerous chemicals into the tincture?. The DMSO comes in a plastic

> canister/jar.

I use dropper bottles with a glass tube, so far no breakdown of the

rubber top though and it has been sitting around for about 8 months.

Just mixed a new one on the road this weekend and plastic dropper was

the only kind I could find. I used it for a few days but will replace

it now that I am home with a glass dropper. Also don't use latex

gloves when applying DMSO. The plastic bottles it comes in are probably

a different grade of plastic than the droppers, although you would think

that medicine droppers would have to be high quality. They are still

soft plastic, and when you have glass why not use the more pure substance?

Garnet

>

> Love Bob Adageyudi Staya Udanvti

>

>

> *******Original Message******* Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 23:33:26 -0600

> Subject: Re: Hi

>

> Welcome to the list!

>

> Thanks for the great stories Bob. Please feel free to post more and

> even put a topic in the subject line that might reflect a particular

> use.

>

> I use 10 - 70% DMSO with CS depending on who and where. For sensitive

> areas like nose and eyes I use 10%. For sensitive individuals I keep

> it low, 20 - 30% and advise people to test themselves with low

> concentrations before trying anything above 30%. Personally I have

> used 70-90% without much of a problems but I have also had 50%

> blister my husband's back, so learned to test and go slow until

> individual sensitivity level is known.

>

> The Cayenne mixture sounds interesting. Do you make the tincture

> yourself? If so how hot is the cayenne? Doug on this list makes herb

> tinctures using DMSO instead of alcohol. Might cut out a step for you

> if you do make your own tincture. I can find 30,000 and 90,000 unit

> Cayenne at our local stores, so that might make a difference too,

> using the hotter one that is.

>

> I use Peppermint oil with DMSO frequently for sore muscles. The

> cayenne mixture sounds like it might be very effective for some of

> the aches I am using the peppermint oil for.

>

> thanks,

>

> Garnet

>

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> DMSO is suppose to break down the collagen cross linking and help

> flatten scars but I don't think it will eliminate the scar tissue.

>

> I have heard of using Vit E for scar tissue on the heart after a heart

> attack. And I have a nephew that benefitted when my sister put it on

> his chicken pox scars that he had on his back from a bad case that had

> gotten infected. They are still there but much smaller and less deep.

This is OT, but for surface scars, there is nothing better than raw honey.

Truly raw honey. There are only two commercially available brands that I

know of:

'Really Raw', and 'YS Organics'. I prefer the YS Organics, but I think

the Really Raw is a little less expensive.

Just rub the honey on the scar and put a bandage over it. The more you

change it the better, but at least twice per day.

Three of the girls in our office used this to completely eliminate scars

they had had for many years - one for a scar that was over 20 years old.

Now they use the raw honey on their face and hair - they love it.

It's also miraculous on burns - even really really bad burns. Kills

infections, etc.

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Hi . We have a few beekeepers in the area here. Wouldn't their honey

be just as good? It's natural and not heat processes, just spun out of the

comb and bottled. BTW--I have a herbal book for dogs and cats and the lady

suggests putting a tablespoon of raw honey in the drinking water when the

dogs are fasted for illness. She says it gives them all the important

nutrition they need, without having to spend energy to digest food.

This is good info--thanks!

samala

" tossed down to live among angels, who have forgotten what they are, I

strive to remember " RLV 1998

-------Original Message-------

This is OT, but for surface scars, there is nothing better than raw honey.

Truly raw honey. There are only two commercially available brands that I

know of:

'Really Raw', and 'YS Organics'. I prefer the YS Organics, but I think

the Really Raw is a little less expensive.

Just rub the honey on the scar and put a bandage over it. The more you

change it the better, but at least twice per day.

Three of the girls in our office used this to completely eliminate scars

they had had for many years - one for a scar that was over 20 years old.

Now they use the raw honey on their face and hair - they love it.

It's also miraculous on burns - even really really bad burns. Kills

infections, etc.

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Dear ,

I'm a beekeeper as well and the answer is there's no better honey anywhere

than what's available in your local area--uncooked/unheated, uncut with

sugar syrup. And if you can find a beekeeper who's mastered ways of

avoiding the use of pesticide strips in their hives, all the better.

DByron

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Ah, thanks! I knew that using local honey for anyone with allergies was the

very best, but I didn't know about the difference in calling the one honey

mentioned as raw. I'm assuming it means unheated? Most of the people here

use the strips because of the vero (sp?) mite I think, but I will ask some

of the bee keepers and try to find one that doesn't.

I've tried to have bees twice. I intend to try again because I just love

the whole idea of bees. So much so that in grade school I did my term paper

on honey bees! :-) The first hive I got from a local guy--I went out one

day and they were all gone! They had been here a few months and doing great

and then all gone in one day. I called the guy and asked him what the heck

happened and he asked me if there were fire ants in the hive. I said yes

and he said that once a fire ant finds a hive and gets in the bees just

leave because they can't fight the ants. So he had me put oil in old coffee

cans and put the legs of the hive in them. Then he gave me another start

from a captured swarm from someone's attic. There were here for about a

month or so and seemed to be happy and then bam--I go out one day and THEY

are gone!!! I called him and talked to him and he didn't have any idea as

everything was going fine, no ants, plenty of water and food. That fall

there was a show and tell at the local bee keeper meeting so I took one of

the trays from inside the hive, as they had asked for these to show kids.

When the president saw my tray (forget the real name of them!!) he said

well, there's the reason your hive left. They didn't have a queen. They

made some queen cells and one must have come out and taken the rest with her

to find a new home " . The guy I had got the second swarm from was sure there

had been a queen captured, but I guess not.

So, I haven't given up yet. I'll get new hives set up and have everything

all ready, and then next January I'll order a queen and workers.

samala

" tossed down to live among angels, who have forgotten what they are, I

strive to remember " RLV 1998

-------Original Message-------

I'm a beekeeper as well and the answer is there's no better honey anywhere

than what's available in your local area--uncooked/unheated, uncut with

sugar syrup. And if you can find a beekeeper who's mastered ways of

avoiding the use of pesticide strips in their hives, all the better.

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wrote:

> Hi . We have a few beekeepers in the area here. Wouldn't their honey

> be just as good? It's natural and not heat processes, just spun out of the

> comb and bottled. BTW--I have a herbal book for dogs and cats and the lady

> suggests putting a tablespoon of raw honey in the drinking water when the

> dogs are fasted for illness. She says it gives them all the important

> nutrition they need, without having to spend energy to digest food.

Hi ,

As long as you can verify that the honey is not heated or otherwise

treated, then yes, local is always best! If you re-read what I said, I

said *commercially* available - meaning, what you buy in the store.

That said... there is one caveat...

Here is the problem with buying honey - by law, a honey provider can

heat their honey to as high as 160 degrees fahrenheit, and still call it

'raw, UNHEATED'.

So, just because it says unheated on th label, doesn't mean it hasn't

been heated.

There are only two kinds of honey that I know of that do not crystallize

(remain liquid/free flowing at room temperature), and they are Tupelo

and - Sage, I believe. So, if the honey you are buying is not one of

these, and is free flowing at room temp, then it has almost certainly

been heated.

It is the enzymes in raw honey that work the magic, so if it has been

heated, it is worthless for health purposes.

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