Re: Colloidal Silver & EPA Regulation

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I would complain at the BBB in the city and the state he sends his product from and post it on every health site you are on or have others post it for you on the ones they are on too. I hate it when people are trying to get and stay well and they get ripped off in the process...let us know...debbie"oldglory@..." wrote: Hi,I want to add I paid for a CG machine from Karl Reinhart well over a year ago and after he failed to deliver, I offered to take colloidal gold

in payment, which Karl claims costs only cents to make. He set so many deadlines that went by, I knew what was going to happen. Over $400 gone and not expected to be seen again! I would appreciate any information on where to complain about his business practices. I am trying my best to stop such people. Jean************** It's ok to post the list address here. Is it www.silverlist.org -- this is an excellent list but will not have much discussion on Colloidal Gold. The archives are not functioning so post posts can not be retrieved, from the few times it has come up.I will warn you about dealing with Karl Reinhart who supposedly sells CG generators. My dealings with him were less than honorable and I would not buy a generator from him. He does have a CG list, both for making it and for using it.I mix CG with DMSO and use it

topically. I would also ingest this mixture orally if I wanted better distribution of the gold. But I only take DMSO orally on an empty stomach, CG too for that matter.I presently use Mesogold from www.perfectcolloids.com. I have used Utopia Silver's CG, but that was probably when they were buying it it from Perfect Colloids and rebottling. I have also tried someone's home made CG and Karl Reinharts. The color was good but the size of the particles can still be large, even with the deep garnet color.I don't know much about the chemical process to produce gold, but the main concern is ingesting gold compounds which do bioaccumulate. This is why doctors will only use gold compound injections in severe arthritis cases and it can only be taken for a limited period of time. Key of www.purestcolloids.com would be the best person to talk to about the difference . He is very knowledgable although

he is selling his product so not without a conflict of interest.I do recall him telling me about a protocol for arthritis, one tablespoon of his 20 ppm Mesosilver four times a day for three months has been reported to alleviate symptoms. Presumably due to destroying mycoplasma or other causative organisms in the joint. Gold and Hydrogen Peroxide are also thought to have the same mechanism of action on arthritis, but I know of no documentation. Just anecdotal reports.The best thing I have used on my arthritis is a Multi Wave Oscillator which is powered by AC current, through a Tesla Coil, to produce radio waves. Some use DC current and produce Magnetic Waves with the same reported results. There are also passive coils. All this is discussed onhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/Crock_LakhovskyThe passive coils are very cheap to make. Even the MWO can be made at home if you have some tinkering

ability with electronics. The circuit diagrams are posted on Key's site as well as on the above list I believe. If you search on MWO you will find a number of sites and also book from Amazon.Four fifteen minute treatments with the MWO relieved the arthritis in my knees for many months, without so much as a twinge even after many weekends on my feet at dog shows. I pretreated one time before a nine day show where I did feel a slight twinge after eight days of all day long on my feet showing and working in a booth. I used a bit of DMSO and peppermint oil and they felt fine. Have not had to use the MWO since on my knees. I do use it on my back and hips when I over do it physically. And I am using it on a dog with panosteoitis with some relief for a hard to treat condition.Garnet

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the local Better Business Bureau in Reinhart's town would be a good

place to file a complaint.

Thanks,

B. (human), Bear SD (wise ol' Shar Pei), Sweet Pea SD CGC (clumsy Great

Dane) & Little Pea *meow!* (tuxedo cat) & Little Whiskers (Shar Pei/JRT mix,

future sports star!) in the land of Colorado...

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oldglory@... wrote:

> want to add I paid for a CG machine from Karl Reinhart well over a

> year ago and after he failed to deliver, I offered to take colloidal

> gold in payment, which Karl claims costs only cents to make. He set

> so many deadlines that went by, I knew what was going to happen. Over

> $400 gone and not expected to be seen again!

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wrote:

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> I have always thought of colloidial silver as a means to destroy germs

> and not for an arthritus problem? At present, when I need silver,

> topically I use a 2 percent solution of silver nitrate. Internally I

> would use CS.

The thought is that it kills the mycoplasma in the joint that is causing

the arthritis.

>

> I do not think I would ingest DMSO. I have used it topically for years;

> noticing that if used too much it leaches the natural oils out of my

> skin where I applied it. Also, I have noticed itching and redness at times.

It does defat your skin so I always use Emu Oil, or Aloe Vera Gel,

either just before or just after.

Itching is due to histamine release. With continued application the Mast

Cells are depleted and this effect stops. Redness can also be too high a

concentration, generally some blistering will occur with this type of

redness that is not itchy.

garnet

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DMSO Nature's Healer speaks of the Histamine depletion with continued

use of DMSO. Amazon carries the book, by Morton . It is an

excellent reference, packed with info on DMSO use and studies. A great

value at under $11

Garnet

wrote:

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>

> Thanks, that is interesting about the CS. I guess you could give

> arthritus a one-two punch with CS and CG?

>

> I have about 1/2 gallon of colloidial gold I made using 12 volt DC

> and a lead acid battery DeSulfator. It is a purple-red colored sol

> with Tydall effect. One of the 5 batches that makes up this mix was

> made using white vinegar. The mix is at a pH of about 3.7 and not

> easy to bring up to 7.0.

>

> I think only a couple of tablespoons full at a time (30mls) would be

> tolerated by my stomach.

>

> I have occassionally had a blister from topical DMSO application. I

> was not aware that one could " deplete " the mast cells of histamine?

> When I take niacin for a Histamine Flush " I expected another dose of

> niacin following quickly after the first would produce another and

> deeper flush?

>

> My " wet method " ormus will not dissolve in DMSO. i have a bottle of

> 99.9 DMSO that I have placed in the refrigerator at 36 degrees F. It

> froze before now it doesn't. I hope the liquid is not just water and

> the DMSO has evaporated.

>

> My experience with DMSO has been that I very seldom notice

> the " garlic " taste. Of course I only use it topically and very

> sparingly.

>

>

>

>

> >

> > >

> > > I have always thought of colloidial silver as a means to destroy

> germs

> > > and not for an arthritus problem? At present, when I need

> silver,

> > > topically I use a 2 percent solution of silver nitrate.

> Internally I

> > > would use CS.

> >

> > The thought is that it kills the mycoplasma in the joint that is

> causing

> > the arthritis.

> >

> > >

> > > I do not think I would ingest DMSO. I have used it topically for

> years;

> > > noticing that if used too much it leaches the natural oils out

> of my

> > > skin where I applied it. Also, I have noticed itching and

> redness at times.

> >

> > It does defat your skin so I always use Emu Oil, or Aloe Vera Gel,

> > either just before or just after.

> >

> > Itching is due to histamine release. With continued application

> the Mast

> > Cells are depleted and this effect stops. Redness can also be too

> high a

> > concentration, generally some blistering will occur with this type

> of

> > redness that is not itchy.

> >

> >

> > garnet

> >

>

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