Re: inflammation of the spine

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Someone posted this on autopsy findings in cfs on experimental. I

think at your age you haven't got the neck problems and lower back

problems that go with these afflictions.I recall someone coming on

recently describing the state of there simple xrays, or scans, on the

terrible condition of there neck on this forum.

Do you have a problem believeing that some terrible shit is going

down alongside the suffering?

topny

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Bob

Do you suffer from cfs? I know personally that for the 15 years

previous to developing this condition I did not like reverse parking

due to the pain in the neck it caused.I also think that factoid on

experimental came from an organisation that was intersted in cfs

autopsies(possably the big cfs usa organisation)- so the amount done

was possably enough to give you that inflammation of the spine

observation-possably the burnt out tissue surrounding the spine was

sticking out like a sore thumb?I was just excited because it sort of

explained the many people that end up on these forums after auto

accidents (whiplash).I also take inflammation serious, and watch

carefully how all our footballers are at the ocean the morning after

a match freezing there butts off to clamp there inflammation.

I also think that many people that exert and crash have problems

getting there inflammation under control.. I also listen to people

that have had heart attacks that have had to be packed in ice before

they could have surgery performed on them due to run away

inflammation.I think that our forum is called infection /inflammation

because they tie in. Also you may find that your wifes nasal passages

are possably diagnosed as constantly inflammaed being a sufferer of

that MCS.Anyways I'm a little more prone to believeing that these

ilnesses fall into line with the problems associated with the rest of

society, than something completely on it's own.

tony

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Whoa,Tony, this rings a bell. My husband has had horrible spine

problems for years. Oddly whenever he was on Zithromax the spine and

muscle pain cleared up, even though he has bone spurs etc that show

up on x-ray.

Three years ago we all get the diagnosis - borrelia. Whatever we both

are infected with - my husband and I - we both respond nicely to

Zithromax. His back pain disappears.

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> Someone posted this on autopsy findings in cfs on experimental. I

> think at your age you haven't got the neck problems and lower back

> problems that go with these afflictions.I recall someone coming on

> recently describing the state of there simple xrays, or scans, on

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> terrible condition of there neck on this forum.

> Do you have a problem believeing that some terrible shit is going

> down alongside the suffering?

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Bob

You don't know me very well. I'm the first person to put my hand up

and say these organisations are full of dickheads.. I just got a

little sense of- 'hey that's cool that you gave us a bit of a tip on

something that was alway's in the back of my mind'.Also Bob we never

really put INFLAMMATION on top of the ladder until this forum ws

opened and we had Barb explain to us that she did her high dose

ibuprofen for 8 months to address and repair her INFLAMMATION PROBLEM.

I also personally went across town a yera earlier to meet the ill,

and the lady I met whom was big on spirochetes, also described the

scar tissue and the therpists constant breaking up of this around her

spine.Just her general explanation took it in a different direction

for me, and made me focus on this possably playing a bigger role than

expected.(food for thought)

I also tend to look at ilness and general health matters with all

facets of what causes all types of ilnesses.Personally I'm from a

greek orthodox religious background and one of the major things

discovered over the centuries is the way we eat and the need for

fasting go hand in hand with avoidance of ill health.I basically had

a great grandmother live to 108 and my other grandmothers where well

into there 90's.. one was 96. They fasted according to all the

requirements of the religion, 'which was very frequent' and avoidance

of animal products on some days on a weekly basis was also

practised.I feel pretty comfortable that our western diet and

afluenza (affluence) are also to blame for some facets of all

ilnesses.

As far as MCS and what I explained to you earlier, I have no problem

believeing that learning to play with infections and switching them

on and off and watch them switch on and off enviromentally.. makes my

understanding of what needs doing a lot clearer.

tony

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I'm glad that this observation of spine inflammation resignated well

with some. Actually Pennys post sounded a bit like she was sticking

up for me, but with her previous posts on extreme shoulder related

problems it's also nice to see that we can have a discussion on

something that touches many without that stigma of sticking up for

someone.

a I sort of try to get you to think about these king size

problems as opposed to trying to get people to get mycoplasma

testing... because this is the 'REALM OF REAL BACTERIA, AND COMMON

OPPURTUNISTIC PATHOGENS'. Unfortunately you didn't adhere strongly

to anything I've been preac=hing for the last few years about

pathology labs and let a major oppurtunity in your own case go down

the drain.You showed no interest to attack your doctor or the

pathology lab for WHAT WAS GROWING IN THE SAMPLE you had..which would

have given a tip of what treatment to add to your zithro..During this

period you mentioned people should get mycoplasma testing on many

occasions and the usual lyme igenex stuff and you obviously showed no

interest whatsoever in learning anything about the real bugs.. that

are often dug out of people's spines?My gut feeling is there's

possably a staph areus that still responds to zithromax. My staph

areus still responds to penicillin.. I think this may be the case

because the bug doesn't get an easy oppurtunity to mutate, and that

the drugs possably don't reach vast amounts of bacteria to enable the

mutations.

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I used to fast alot for 24 hours or so. N=1. To be fair, by that time I

was already showing more weird signs, such as seasonal depression, than

I did when I was a kid.

> I also tend to look at ilness and general health matters with all

> facets of what causes all types of ilnesses.Personally I'm from a

> greek orthodox religious background and one of the major things

> discovered over the centuries is the way we eat and the need for

> fasting go hand in hand with avoidance of ill health.I basically had

> a great grandmother live to 108 and my other grandmothers where well

> into there 90's.. one was 96. They fasted according to all the

> requirements of the religion, 'which was very frequent' and avoidance

> of animal products on some days on a weekly basis was also

> practised.