Guest guest Posted August 22, 2005 Report Posted August 22, 2005 The one thing I would investigate are the side effects. i.e. Likelihood of kidney and bone marrow damage. I know many immunosuppressants used with other immune related diseases have these possible side effects as well. Sometimes newer medications have an advantage because they are designed to eliminate or reduce this possibility. Not that gold salts aren't worth investigating. It's definitely intriguing! On Aug 22, 2005, at 4:42 AM, wrote: > > What does Goldberg think about gold salts? Read below... > > > http://www.medicinenet.com/aurothioglucose/article.htm > > > hmmm, there IS something else out there that we haven't tried! > > > >> >> http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20050814-091458-9651r >> >>> The Age of Autism: Case 1 revisited >>> >>> By Dan Olmsted >>> >>> UPI Health Editor >> >>> Published 8/15/2005 9:45 AM >> >>> The first person ever diagnosed with autism lived in a small town in >>> Mississippi. He still does. >> >>> " T. " is now 71, and after a " miraculous response " to medical >>> treatment at age 12, he appears to have recovered significantly >>> since his >>> original diagnosis as a 5-year-old. >> >>> His improvement is so striking, in fact, that it raises new questions >>> about >> >> the disorder and its treatment. >> >>> went on to graduate from college, where he joined a >>> fraternity. He >>> worked as a bank teller and belongs to the Kiwanis Club. He owns a >>> handsome >> >> house with a large well-tended yard, drives a car, plays golf several >> times >> a week and travels the world solo. Recent itinerary: Rome; Palermo, >> Sicily; >> Corsica and Sardinia. This past weekend he was returning from >> Branson, Mo. >> >>> In short, he doesn't seem terribly autistic anymore. >> >>> " It sounds like he moved right off the spectrum, " said one doctor >>> whose >>> practice includes scores of children with autism. >> >>> The treatment received in 1947 was not intended to help his >>> disorder, but to save his life. had come down with an >>> uncontrollable >> >> fever, stopped eating and had severe joint pain and stiffness that was >>> finally diagnosed as juvenile arthritis, a rare autoimmune >>> condition. Such >>> problems occur when the body's own defense mechanisms go haywire, in >>> this >>> case causing inflammation that was destroying his joints. >> >>> After being treated for several months with gold salts -- then the >>> standard >> >> therapy and still in use -- not only his arthritis but some of his >> most >>> disabling autistic traits cleared up simultaneously. >> >>> We learned all this after we determined 's identity and that >>> of his >>> brother, whose law office is on the second floor of a building >>> across the >>> town square from the courthouse. The brother, although understandably >>> taken >> >> aback when we showed up last Friday, was cordial and said he didn't >> mind >>> being quoted by name, but because has not responded to our >>> request >>> for an interview -- and we do not wish to intrude on his privacy -- >>> we >>> decided not to identify the family or the town at this time. >> >>> Medical researchers certainly know where to find -- his >>> brother >>> said >> >> s Hopkins University medical personnel check in " about once a >> decade " >>> to observe 's progress. It is not clear whether anyone at s >>> Hopkins, where was diagnosed, ever considered whether his >>> striking >>> improvement was related to the gold-salts treatment. >> >>> Upwards of a quarter-million U.S. children have autism, and >>> diagnoses are >>> rising. The cause is unknown. Medical groups and federal health >>> officials >>> have dismissed the " biomedical " approaches being tried by some >>> parents and >>> doctors as unproven and irresponsible. >> >>> " You have to keep in mind that the history of medicine is strewn with >>> discarded treatments that people at one time believed in very, very >>> strongly, " Dr. Harvey Fineberg, president of the Institute of >>> Medicine, >>> said on NBC's " Meet the Press " earlier this month in response to a >>> question >> >> about those treatments. >> >>> Such an approach, however, appears to have made the difference for >>> , >>> at least according to the brother, who is his closest living >>> relative -- >>> and who was clearly unfamiliar with the current debate. >> >>> 's parents took him to s Hopkins in Baltimore at age 5 in >>> 1938 >>> to >> >> be evaluated by Leo Kanner, the leading child psychiatrist of his day. >>> Kanner realized that 's behavior syndrome -- which included >>> repetitive actions, limited and odd use of language and profound >>> social >>> disengagement -- was " markedly and uniquely different from anything >>> reported so far. " >> >>> Over the next four years Kanner saw 10 more such children, and in >>> 1943 he >>> published their case histories in a landmark paper titled " Autistic >>> Disturbances of Affective Contact. " >> >>> " There was a marked limitation of spontaneous activity, " Kanner >>> observed >>> about " Case 1, T. " >> >>> " He wandered about smiling, making stereotyped movements with his >>> fingers, >>> crossing them about in the air. He shook his head from side to side, >>> whispering or humming the same three-note tune. He spun with great >>> pleasure >> >> anything he could seize upon to spin. " >> >>> He also had what would prove to be characteristic speech patterns of >>> autism, including affirmation by repetition. For example, if he >>> wanted to >>> get down after his nap, he said, " Boo (his word for his mother) say, >>> 'Don, >>> do you want to get down?' " Yet he could recite 25 questions and >>> answers of >>> the Presbyterian catechism and had perfect pitch (he still does). >> >>> In our interview, 's brother outlined what happened after >>> Kanner's >>> diagnosis. >> >>> " My brother was extremely nervous and excitable. Dr. Kanner, when >>> they >>> took >> >> Don up there, told my mother and father that the treatment he was >> going to >>> recommend was, if they knew a couple out in the country -- a >>> childless >>> couple -- in his opinion (having live with them) would be the >>> best >>> thing that could happen. " >> >>> They found such a couple, and began living on a farm about 10 >>> miles >>> from town in 1944, when he would have been 9 years old. >> >>> " In 1947, one February day I think it was, they came to (town) with >>> Don. >>> He >> >> had a bad fever and was obviously sick. My father and mother took him >> to >>> all various places for examination -- they went to the Mayo Clinic, >>> brought >> >> him back. " >> >>> Because 's family was affluent -- his father was a >>> Yale-educated >>> lawyer -- they could afford the best doctors and knew where to find >>> them, >>> but nothing seemed to help. >> >>> " He lost his appetite and was terribly emaciated, " his brother >>> recounted, >>> comparing his appearance to a concentration-camp survivor. " But >>> anyway, my >>> father was talking to a doctor (in a nearby small town) he happened >>> to run >>> into. " He told the doctor, " It looks like Don's getting ready to >>> die. " >> >>> That doctor, without having examined his son, said, " What you're >>> describing >> >> sounds like a rare case of juvenile arthritis. " >> >>> Armed with that tentative diagnosis, his parents took to a >>> clinic >>> in >> >> Memphis, where they " began to treat my brother with gold salts for 2 >> to 3 >> months. " >> >>> The results were spectacular. >> >>> " He just had a miraculous response to the medicine. The pain in his >>> joints >>> went away. " has one fused knuckle to show for the nearly fatal >>> affliction. >>> >>> There was more good news. >>> >>> " When he was finally released, the nervous condition he was formerly >>> afflicted with was gone, " his brother said. " The proclivity to >>> excitability >> >> >>> and extreme nervousness had all but cleared up, and after that he >>> went to >>> school and had one more little flare-up (of arthritis) when in junior >>> college. They treated it with cortisone. " >>> >>> The interview with 's brother significantly adds to the >>> information >>> known about him and establishes a new timeline -- one in which the >>> gold-salts treatment now appears to be a pivotal but previously >>> undocumented event. >>> >>> In a 1970 letter cited by Kanner, 's mother mentions " he had an >>> acute >> >> attack of rheumatoid arthritis in 1955. Fortunately, this lasted only >> a >> few >> weeks. Physically, since that time he has been in perfect health. ... >> Since >> receiving his AB degree in 1958, he has worked in the local bank as a >>> teller. " >>> >>> She was evidently describing the " one more little flare-up " that >>> 's >>> brother described as occurring in junior college. We found no >>> reference in >>> Kanner's writing to the life-threatening first onset of juvenile >>> arthritis >>> at age 12 or to the treatment that followed. >>> >>> Instead, Kanner attributed 's standout success in later life >>> -- most >>> of the 11 initial patients were ultimately institutionalized or >>> lived in >>> extremely sheltered circumstances -- to the couple with whom he >>> stayed for >>> those four years. >>> >>> Kanner wrote in 1971: >> >>> " , because of the intuitive wisdom of a tenant farmer couple, >>> who >>> knew how to make him utilize his futile preoccupations for practical >>> purposes and at the same time helped him to maintain contact with his >>> family, is a regularly employed bank teller; while living at home, he >>> takes >> >> >>> part in a variety of community activities and has the respect of his >>> fellow >> >> townspeople. " >>> >>> Yet, in our interview, 's brother cited the medical treatment >>> and >>> said it made a permanent difference in . >>> >>> " It sure did, " he said. " He became more social, " noting that just a >>> few >>> years later was asked to join the college social fraternity, >>> whereas >> >> >>> people with autism are prone to isolation and do not usually acquire >>> friends. >>> >>> Would he call his brother autistic now, we asked? " It's just in >>> certain >>> areas, " he said, citing a total lack of interest in dating or a life >>> companion. >>> >>> 's transformation, his brother said, " is the most amazing >>> thing I've >>> ever seen. " >>> >>>> E-mail: dolmsted@... >> Copyright © 2001-2005 United Press International >> >> > > > > > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2006 Report Posted February 7, 2006 RESEARCHThe Age of Autism: New Test Of Gold Salts By Dan Olmsted for UPI http://tinyurl.com/ddz7k A Columbia University scientist plans to test whether gold saltsimprove the functioning of "autistic mice" -- a step toward finding whetherthey could help children with autism. Dr. Mady Hornig of Columbia's Mailman School of Public Health willgive the compound to mice that have been bred to be susceptible tothimerosal, a mercury-based preservative in children's immunizations untilrecently. Some researchers and parents believe thimerosal is implicated inthe explosion of autism diagnoses over the past decade, though federalhealth authorities say that theory has been discredited. In previous research, Hornig found that the susceptible mouse breedshows autistic-like behaviors, including self-mutilation, when giventhimerosal at doses proportionate to those children received until recently. Hornig "is developing a treatment protocol using gold salts which shewill administer to these genetically susceptible mice to determine if thetreatment might improve their behavior and brain function and if there areside effects," according to an announcement of the project by the NationalAutism Association. "Gold tightly binds mercury and there are anecdotal reports of goldsalts being effective in improving autism outcomes." That is a reference to Age of Autism's report last year that the firstperson ever diagnosed with the disorder improved significantly aftertreatment with gold salts. That child, known as T., was given thecompound to treat a life-threatening attack of juvenile arthritis in 1946,when he was 12 years old. According to 's brother, interviewed in the small Mississippitown where both still live, the treatment cleared up the arthritis -- andhis autism improved markedly and unexpectedly as well.+ Full article here: http://tinyurl.com/ddz7kunsubscribe Quote
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2006 Report Posted February 13, 2006 In a message dated 07/02/2006 21:22:30 GMT Standard Time, MarthaRolfe@... writes: Okay, here's another question. Does anyone know about the use of "gold salts" with autism. It seems that they used to be used for juvenile arthritis and that there was a side effect of a beneficial impact on autism, but it was only a very small sampling. Does anyone know anything more about this treatment? >>>>Boyd Haley is doing something with it Marti - I forget quite what, I think they reported that it worked in vitro, brains a bt fuzzy sorry not much help Mandi x Quote
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2006 Report Posted February 13, 2006 this was posted a while ago but here it is again: http://www.gold.org/discover/news/article/3424/ Natasa > > > In a message dated 07/02/2006 21:22:30 GMT Standard Time, > MarthaRolfe@... writes: > > Okay, here's another question. Does anyone know about the use of " gold > salts " with autism. It seems that they used to be used for juvenile arthritis and > that there was a side effect of a beneficial impact on autism, but it was > only a very small sampling. Does anyone know anything more about this > treatment? > > > > >>>>Boyd Haley is doing something with it Marti - I forget quite what, I > think they reported that it worked in vitro, brains a bt fuzzy sorry not much > help > > Mandi x > Quote
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2006 Report Posted July 26, 2006 Here's a whole page on PubMed: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?CMD=search & DB=pubmed My late mother had gold salts injections in the 1950's.... Made her symptoms go away (arthritis/scardosis) but they limited her to how many injections per year she could have. I don't think they know much more about the mechanisms now than they did 40 years ago. Barb > > > > Isn't gold also injected. Bismuth is next to lead on > > the periodic table. weights about the same. I would > > think getting these heavy metals out of the body, > > would be very hard. you may never get it all out. > > > Quote
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