Re: Immunemodulator alternative to Benicar?

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I wish I knew. I'm still on Benicar. My prescription ran out last night, and I'm waiting for a refill, so not looking forward to seeing inflammatory symptoms worsen today. You know, I have very low bp, and the Benicar really didn't effect it. I have the same low readings at my docs' that I've always had. penny tempelx0 <tempelx0@...> wrote: A while ago, people on this list were experimenting with and talking about

substances that might be immunemodulators and alternatives to Benicar in a low-dose antibiotic therapy for lyme.What are your thoughts by now about an effective alternative to Benicar for purposes of immunemodulation?I have developed liver & colon problems from 3 years' of antibiotics. We went to bicillin IM because my LLMD thought it would affect the GI-system less. It has been the most effective antibiotic I've been on in 3 years. But, it caused the skin to slough in my mouth & probably other mucous membranes, and my colon inflammation is worse than ever. So I've had to stop.I've been trying some alternative treatments -- rife & cat's claw, and for immune support I've been trying colostrum & Mannatech's Ambrotose, plus other vitamins & herbs -- but still am relapsing.Now the tremors in my brain stem are back, and I don't want to let the relapse go further.I think my

GI-system could tolerate a low-dose antibiotic therapy, because there would be time to recover in between. I already have low blood pressure, and so my LLMD would not put me on Benicar. He said he tried it when the Protocol using it was new, and had a patient's blood pressure keep going lower & lower & lower. So now he will only assist patients who want to try it if they already have high blood pressure.Would anything else help to make a low-dose antibiotic therapy work for lyme?Thank you so much.Tempe

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Wanted to add that the Benicar no longer completely controls my body pain, although it does get worse when the Benicar is gone. But it still handles the brain pressure really well. I can tell because as soon as it's out of my system, my teeth start chattering. Which they had done for years. The chattering also came with anxiety I didn't really know I had, until I started Benicar. I don't know if Gauifenisen has any antiinflamamtory properties, but it does a lot of other things and is a natural analgesic (comes from tree bark like aspirin). Also thins the blood, etc. Plus, people are reporting success with Vitamin D for joint pain. And I'm on Plaquenil for my infection, but turns out it's also a treatment for RA and I seem to be noticing a lessing of joint pain as well. So perhaps these have anti-inflammatory properties. Vitamin C is supposed to be an anti-inflammatory as well,

and many people are reporting success with the salt/C protocol. If you do a search on something like antiinflammatory properties, you'll come up with a lot of possibilities. I think it's a matter of an individual finding what works for them. pennytempelx0 <tempelx0@...> wrote: A while ago, people on this list were experimenting with and talking about substances that might be immunemodulators and alternatives to Benicar in a low-dose antibiotic

therapy for lyme.What are your thoughts by now about an effective alternative to Benicar for purposes of immunemodulation?I have developed liver & colon problems from 3 years' of antibiotics. We went to bicillin IM because my LLMD thought it would affect the GI-system less. It has been the most effective antibiotic I've been on in 3 years. But, it caused the skin to slough in my mouth & probably other mucous membranes, and my colon inflammation is worse than ever. So I've had to stop.I've been trying some alternative treatments -- rife & cat's claw, and for immune support I've been trying colostrum & Mannatech's Ambrotose, plus other vitamins & herbs -- but still am relapsing.Now the tremors in my brain stem are back, and I don't want to let the relapse go further.I think my GI-system could tolerate a low-dose antibiotic therapy, because there would be time to recover in

between. I already have low blood pressure, and so my LLMD would not put me on Benicar. He said he tried it when the Protocol using it was new, and had a patient's blood pressure keep going lower & lower & lower. So now he will only assist patients who want to try it if they already have high blood pressure.Would anything else help to make a low-dose antibiotic therapy work for lyme?Thank you so much.Tempe

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Just read these comments at a website asking about anti-inflammatories: Selenium activates an antioxidant enzyme called glutathione peroxidase, which may helpSulfates in MSM and Glucosamine may helpAntioxidants are a key to antiinfamatory properties in foodsPectins or the skins in most fruits act as antioxidants can helpTart Cherry Juice is supposed to be an anti-inflamatory The goji berry is full of flavenoids and phyto-nutrients as well as four polysaccharides.This all natural berry with medical validation on pubmed.org under Lycium Barbarum, is effective for reducing free radicals, acid, inflammation, yeast and bacteria, and can rapidly change your blood to alkalinity from acidity. I'm

sure there are many more possibilities. Thought the selenium suggestion was interesting. All these people trying to raise glutathione. Wonder if they've tried selenium? Selenium has been praised for quite a while for pwc with thyroid disease and it often shows up in my own testing as one of the nutrients I could use. Would be interesting to know if the real benefits of Glutathione are its antiinflammatory properties. Some people use whey proteins to raise glutathione, while others report antiinflammatory benefits from products like Immunpro, one of the whey protein products. Maybe there's a big link here? pennyPenny Houle <pennyhoule@...> wrote: I wish I knew. I'm still on Benicar. My prescription ran out last night, and I'm waiting for a refill, so not looking forward to seeing inflammatory symptoms worsen today. You know, I have very low bp, and the Benicar really didn't effect it. I have the same low readings at my docs' that I've always had. penny tempelx0 <tempelx0 > wrote: A while ago, people on this list were experimenting with and talking about substances that might be immunemodulators and alternatives to Benicar in a low-dose antibiotic therapy for lyme.What are your thoughts by now about an effective alternative to Benicar for purposes of immunemodulation?I have developed liver & colon problems from 3 years' of antibiotics. We went to bicillin IM because my LLMD thought it would affect the GI-system less. It has been the most effective antibiotic I've been on in 3 years. But, it caused the skin to slough in my mouth & probably other mucous membranes, and my colon inflammation is worse than ever. So I've had to stop.I've been trying some alternative treatments -- rife & cat's claw, and for immune support I've been trying colostrum & Mannatech's Ambrotose, plus other vitamins & herbs -- but still am

relapsing.Now the tremors in my brain stem are back, and I don't want to let the relapse go further.I think my GI-system could tolerate a low-dose antibiotic therapy, because there would be time to recover in between. I already have low blood pressure, and so my LLMD would not put me on Benicar. He said he tried it when the Protocol using it was new, and had a patient's blood pressure keep going lower & lower & lower. So now he will only assist patients who want to try it if they already have high blood pressure.Would anything else help to make a low-dose antibiotic therapy work for lyme?Thank you so much.Tempe