Guest guest Posted July 20, 2006 Report Posted July 20, 2006 Can this be something other than Giardia?: My wife: Intestinal upset Mild/intermittent diarrhea Fecal color changing from green to yellow to brown and back again Major belching and indigestion esp. after eating a meal, and especially a meal high in fat or sugar Waited about 10 days to see if her immune system would resolve the problem; it didn't; lost 11 pounds; went to doctor. Fecal test results not in yet, but WBCs are elevated Little if no fever My cat Shortly after my wife's onset, my cat now burps and farts Me Now I have it. So this is highly contagious, and not strictly a human pathogen. Can this be anything other than Giardia? My wife's doc prescribed her 1,500 mg flagyl/day plus 400 mg moxifloxacin/day for seven days. He doesn't seem to rule out C. diff, but the belching and bile stuff seems to me incompatible with that. The flagyl would work against C. diff anyway, but why would he prescribe a fluoroquinolone? The flagyl dose is double the US regimen for giardia. After only one day her peripheral nerves were " buzzing " . I've discussed with how a FQ/nitroimidazole combo might be highly effective against persistent bacteria, but I was afraid that this combo would be especially prone to inducing peripheral neuropathy, and after only one day on this combo she's got some. She halved the dose (commensurate with US guidelines for giardia) and dropped the moxi. The buzzing went away. I don't want to antagonize her relatively helpful doctor, but I don't see the point of moxi, and frying her neurons with high-dose flagyl plus moxi is a concern. Giardia is often " asymptomatic " and deliberately left untreated. What's up with that? Do people get rid of it on their own after a few months. Is waiting this out a sane option? I found a post on the Web by a person who thinks her relapsing giardiasis gave her chronic fatigue and such. Several months ago, I developed serum sickness on a combo of Tini, mino and Azith. I haven't yet had the skin test to find out what I reacted to. I'd like to know if this might be something other than giardia so I can think about deploying something other than Flagyl (related to Tini). Otherwise I may do a scratch test myself rather than waiting for a referral. There's some evidence that Albenza works against giardia. I have some on hand. Albenza plus Flagyl is reported to be a highly effective combo, but multiple Filipino migrant workers in Taiwan developed fatal s- syndrome on a similar combo (Mebendazole instead of Albendazole, but the two are very similar; the migrant workers take antiparasitics prophylactically just prior to biannual mandatory tests that could get them kicked out of Taiwan for a positive; so it may be that this reaction occurred several times out of thousands of doses; the authors didn't give an estimate of incidence; they just advised against the combo). I would try the less effective, but highly safe Albenza but if it doesn't work, how long would I have to wait before deploying the more effective Flagyl without the enhanced risk of s-? I have a 5-day commitment I can't get out of and I don't know if I'll have internet access during that time. I may not respond during that time. But I'd really like ideas about what, other than giardia, could fit this profile. thanks, Matt Quote
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