Re: newish Raoult paper on immunology of whipples disease

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Interesting that. One thing that jumped out at me was the accumulation of fat in the intestine,Inappropriate gut flora promoting the laying down of fat ..Now, many with a yeast infection report a paunch..I wonder ......anyone else notice an accumulation of fat?..

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OK Im back.

Nother case of inscrutable PCR failure here; I collect these:

" Indeed, peripheral blood mononuclear cells from four patients with

active WD (confirmed by PAS-positive intestinal biopsies) were

negative by PCR for T. whipplei DNA (74). "

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I want in on this discussion- but am out straight at the moment-

I'm giving myself a crash course in SYndrome X in the horse (similar

to type II diabetes in humans) and this gut flora stuff ties in with

that too. These horses develope fat pads very rapidly - and can be

hypothyroid.

There's an imblance of gut flora in the hind gut (where fructans are

fermented) that in these horses causes a proliferation of one bug

(that can be controlled with omneprazole (abx- spelled wrong

probably). Low dose abx is available for these horses in Austraila

but NOT the USA.

If these over abundant bugs (produced from the fermentation) are not

controlled there's a die-off of some other beneficial species (I

don't know the species yet) that releases a toxin- causing

inflammation- which goes systemic- then affacts the micro vessels in

the hoof- it's complicated-

But the same thread... here is an imbalance..in the intestinal tract.

A friend of mine is dealing with this situation right now- taking

alot of my time- but I'm readinbg here- keep going with this- it's

interesting.

Barb

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> Interesting that. One thing that jumped out at me was the

accumulation of

> fat in the intestine,Inappropriate gut flora promoting the laying

down of

> fat ..Now, many with a yeast infection report a paunch..I wonder

> ......anyone else notice an accumulation of fat?..

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tool=pubmed & pubmedid=1646732

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WIth the research on horses (but bugs) and syndrome X (similar the

type II diabetes in humans) I am convinced this is a gut bug

imbalance problem- but in horses, their system is Sooooooo much more

delicate than ours, they can't take all the abx we can (they can take

gobs of Docy- and about 20 days of bactrim - isoxsuprine 9microvessel

dilator) they can handle for a while... I gotta learn more about this.

- I'll probably contact you (and I'll email the list) when I find

out the species involved- they don't share all the same ones we have.

Barb

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> > Interesting that. One thing that jumped out at me was the

> accumulation of

> > fat in the intestine,Inappropriate gut flora promoting the

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> > fat ..Now, many with a yeast infection report a paunch..I wonder

> > ......anyone else notice an accumulation of fat?..

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