RE: Re: newish Raoult paper on immunology of whipples disease

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Wow ,good stuff barb , I know I keep beating the drum but good gut flora is EVERYTHING i'm just looking at some research again that concludes that our default immune stance is TH2 the TH1 response is entirely attributable to bacteria mediating our default setting In other words bacteria are responsible for our adaptive immune system ...fascinating eh ..but not that unexpected for the initiated ...

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Hmmm, I feel like the horse with the systemic inflammation. So Barb, what is the preferred abx in Australia? And what's considered low dose in a horse? , I think many pwc experience increased fat around the middle. We've heard lots of explanations for it. Since so many pwc are women, it's sometimes theorized that the fat is protection for the reproductive organs. A friend of mine here, whose state of health clearly seems tied to her fungal load as well as her bacterial load, experiences weight & appetite fluctuations depending on whether her amx are working or not. She'd look fairly thin to you but she complained recently of not changing her diet and suddenly putting on pads of fat above her buttocks and hips to the point where her clothes don't fit right. Knowing her as well as I do, I can see this being related to her fungal

problems (which for the most part seem to appear as pelvic/gut related symptoms). I've definitely put on weight around the middle as my illness has progressed. As you know, I don't have overt fungal symptoms, and haven't tested positive for any fungi, but that doesn't mean they aren't there. I've been taking lamisil for a couple of months now, along with the abx, and am finally starting to do well again after the sinus surgery knocked me on my butt. Whether it's the abx, the lamisil or the combination, I don't know. But I'm not planning to stop either. Doesn't it seem that if the antifungals work, a weight loss would be part of the improved health package? penny Jaep <Jaep@...> wrote: Wow ,good stuff barb , I know I keep beating the drum but good gut flora is EVERYTHING i'm just looking at some research again that concludes that our default immune stance is TH2 the TH1 response is entirely attributable to bacteria mediating our default setting In other words bacteria are responsible for our adaptive immune system ...fascinating eh ..but not that unexpected for the initiated ... [infections] newish Raoult paper on immunology of> whipples disease> > > Free text. Wanna read it, gotta go> > http://www.pubmedcentral.gov/articlerender.fcgi?> tool=pubmed & pubmedid=16467322> > > > > --> No virus found in this outgoing message.> Checked by AVG Free Edition.> Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.9/382 - Release Date: 04/07/2006>

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Dear Barb

From what I can see of research in Oz, the significance is not in the bugs as species but in the fact that domestic animal enterococci appear to be the reserve for Vancomycin resistance which appeard to be easily shared by unrelated bacteria. A small mercy then , that such a small proportio of our population is rural and in intimate contact with farm animals.

Regards

Windsor

(IN Canberra, Oz)

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How interesting , I would have thought as with anaesthetics they would have required much more antibiotics than us to treat infection ..So to know what bugs inhabit their gut would be very enlightening .Look forward to sharing your findings ..

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