Rise and Fall of Temp and BP in a Herx Reaction

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Hi Carole, Thanks for showing this to me. It is interesting. I can't

tell you whether or not my temp and BP rose first before it fell. I

wasn't looking for that, wasn't actually even looking for BP in

regards to herxing, since I barely knew what ABX were all about at

the time of my most profound herx. I had a BP cuff at home, because

I had been monitoring my hypotension, looking for some kind of

pattern previous to starting ABX. My BP as I said earlier, fell to

a point where my BP cuff could not pick it up and it has picked up

my BP at 80/50. I stopped taking my temp years ago, because I never

have one, which is very common for Lyme. I usually have a temp

around 96.8-97.2. With treatment on the low dose Mino though, I now

have a temp closer to normal and often run a low grade fever. I do

get the rigors (chills), bad in high dose ABX, less intense with

less ABX. I also get intensifciation of symptoms as the reports says

will happen in a herx. These are just any old symptoms, but the ones

I already had, but worse. This report describes what happens to me,

on both high dose and low.

Thought it was interesting that this report revolved around two

other known spirochete infections, cousins to Lyme. Relapsing fever

bringing on the worst form of the herx. It also said that the herx

effects approx. " 80% " of those being treated and caused death in 4%.

It said that the herx can vary in intensity based on which

infections you are fighting. Here we have documentation that 80%

dealing with sphirochetes, " get worse before they get better " .

The article made it clear that there is still much that is not known

about this phenomonen. Best I could get, this article came from '92,

I think. I am sure that this info has been expounded on since.

Thanks, it was helpful.

>

>

> Hello Jelly,

>

> Am hesitating to jump in on this thread, much has already been

said on

> herxing. I came upon an article about herxing that seems to give

quite

> specific indications about what it is. Maybe this can be of some

use to

> you, if you have not already seen it.

>

> http://jac.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/reprint/29/6/613

> <http://jac.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/reprint/29/6/613>

>

> In it, they state " The reaction consists of a sudden rise, then

more

> gradual fall in body temperature; a transient rise followed by a

more

> profound fall in blood pressure and worsening of constitutional

> symptoms. "

>

> I don't know if this fits in with your reaction, just wanted to

throw it

> out. When I was taking minocycline (100 mg), I did have low body

> temperature, but I never saw the sudden rise. Did have big drops in

> blood pressure, though.

>

> Carole

>

>

> --- In infections , " jellybelly92008 "

> <herranenb@>

> >, I agree that what is happening is likely due to the body

not

> being able to remove " something " . The thing I would like to see

PROOF

> of is, it my body is unable to cope with the micro doses of Mino,

just

> a measly 3 times a week(seems insane if I can't even clear that)

OR is

> my body not able to clear toxins from die off? Symptoms fit

identical

> with those of a herx. Symptoms do not fit though with bad

reactions to

> Mino OR Mag.

>

> > Apparently no one has any answers or proof to anything we are

still

> just speculating and so we'll just have to wait.

>