Re: After 4 attempts finally get C&S on Sinuses(Christi)

[Guest guest]

So who knows what to buy in China if you

want to take MSH?

Thanks for any leads,

a

Pj7@...

Christi,

It is difficult to say. I'm on various antibiotics continually for

various infections. It's difficult to say where we are better off on Bactrim

for a prolonged period, when we know it will be right back as we don't produce

MSH. Again, there are no easy answers for us. If one goes by Dr. Shoemakers

protocol in Mold Warrior's the MRSA and MRSE need to be addressed but if people

are of a certain genotype of which I am, I am not going to be able to

eradicate this or other infectious agents that I am dealing with.... Prof.

Carol

[Guest guest]

Hi Carol, I've been to Shoemaker and have gotten relief from certain symptoms with CSM but Shoemaker didn't want to give me any other antibiotics for the staph epi because I'm resistent to so many antibiotics. Instead he wants to do the procrit protocol which boosts the red blood cells but does it really boost the immune system to fight these infectious agents? Has anyone done the procrit protocol and found it helpful for boosting the immune system? I'm probably the same genotype as you are but it seems hopeless if antibiotics/antifungals aren't going to eradicate these infectious agents. UGH ChristiEJFISCH@... wrote: Christi, It is difficult to say. I'm on various antibiotics continually for various infections. It's difficult to say where we are better off on Bactrim for a prolonged period, when we know it will be right back as we don't produce MSH. Again, there are no easy answers for us. If one goes by Dr. Shoemakers protocol in Mold Warrior's the MRSA and MRSE need to be addressed but if people are of a certain genotype of which I am, I am not going to be able to eradicate this or other infectious agents that I am dealing with.... Prof. Carol In a message dated 6/15/06 2:11:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, salzberglver3@... writes: Hi Prof. Carol, I have staph epi, MRSE and am on Bactrim currently for ongoing infection. I'm not producing MSH either and we all know that MSH isn't available to us. So if we will continue to colonize coag.negative staph without MSH is it essential to stay on an antibiotic permanently? My colonization goes from moderate to abundant in less than six weeks time when I'm off and infections start to escalate again. ChristiEJFISCH@... wrote: After 4 separate attempts I finally got a C & S for my sinuses. Both the doctor and I had written all over it do a sensitivity if it grows out Staph Epi and CHECK for COAG neg and MRSE. It came back positive and the only thing it is sensitive to is Bactrim which I can't take. With the hypothalamus not producing MSH many of us end up

with Coag. neg Staph Epi that would not be colonized on a health person. My teeth are being hit and it is a catch twenty-two are theyseperate issues are both caused by the same thing. The teeth appear better if I'm on Clindomycin but once I'm off I'm in trouble. I'm ready to have all the teeth pulled but that would probably not take care of the problem either as I still don't produce MSH and therefore, will continue to colonize Coag Neg Staph epi. Prof. Carol __________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Just remember that this is only one theory about why

you're not eradicating the infections. Dr. Shoemaker

uses really wimpy abx protocols, to be completely

frank. It's the one thing I wish he'd explore further

because he's a very smart guy. I wish he would have

tried more agressive protocols before determining that

these organisms are " untreatable " due to a genetic

factor which creates an inability to produce MSH. I

think there are plenty of reasons that staphs are

resistant to treatment. He should talk to Tony about

how agressively he had to treat his staphs to get

well.

And hopefully, somebody will fund research to show

that raising MSH will help people eradicate staphs.

Until then, we've got to do what we can. It is

possible because we've seen people do it, just not

easy.

penny

--- EJFISCH@... wrote:

> Christi,

> If one goes

> by Dr. Shoemakers protocol in

> Mold Warrior's the MRSA and MRSE need to be

> addressed but if people are of a

> certain genotype of which I am, I am not going to be

> able to eradicate this or

> other infectious agents that I am dealing with....

> Prof. Carol

>

>

>

> In a message dated 6/15/06 2:11:41 PM Eastern

> Standard Time,

> salzberglver3@... writes:

> Hi Prof. Carol,

> I have staph epi, MRSE and am on Bactrim currently

> for ongoing infection. I'm

> not producing MSH either and we all know that MSH

> isn't available to us. So

> if we will continue to colonize coag.negative staph

> without MSH is it essential

> to stay on an antibiotic permanently? My

> colonization goes from moderate to

> abundant in less than six weeks time when I'm off

> and infections start to

> escalate again.

> Christi

>

> EJFISCH@... wrote:

> After 4 separate attempts I finally got a C & S for my

> sinuses. Both the doctor

> and I had written all over it do a sensitivity if it

> grows out Staph Epi and

> CHECK for COAG neg and MRSE. It came back positive

> and the only thing it is

> sensitive to is Bactrim which I can't take. With

> the hypothalamus not producing

> MSH many of us end up with Coag. neg Staph Epi that

> would not be colonized on

> a health person. My teeth are being hit and it is a

> catch twenty-two are

> theyseperate issues are both caused by the same

> thing. The teeth appear better if

> I'm on Clindomycin but once I'm off I'm in trouble.

> I'm ready to have all the

> teeth pulled but that would probably not take care

> of the problem either as I

> still don't produce MSH and therefore, will continue

> to colonize Coag Neg

> Staph epi. Prof. Carol

>

[Guest guest]

I don't know but if you find out, let us know. I'd

like to see what happens if infected people use it.

penny

--- a Carnes <pj7@...> wrote:

> So who knows what to buy in China if you want to

> take MSH?

>

>

>

> Thanks for any leads,

>

> a

>

> Pj7@...

>

>

>

> Christi,

>

> It is difficult to say. I'm on various antibiotics

> continually for various

> infections. It's difficult to say where we are

> better off on Bactrim for a

> prolonged period, when we know it will be right back

> as we don't produce

> MSH. Again, there are no easy answers for us. If one

> goes by Dr. Shoemakers

> protocol in Mold Warrior's the MRSA and MRSE need to

> be addressed but if

> people are of a certain genotype of which I am, I am

> not going to be able to

> eradicate this or other infectious agents that I am

> dealing with.... Prof.

> Carol

>

>

>

>

>

>